The term “free speech” itself is a false deity.  It is all about the protections afforded to speech.  While some jurisdictions may go further than others I think taking J. Scott’s comment to mean “speech is not protected” would be a misrepresentation of the situation.

Aside from “free speech” there is the closely related concept of fair use.

And, finally, of course, trademark protection is limited in scope.  It does not act to preclude use of the identical indicator for unrelated goods/services or for purposes which are generic (meaning the thing or its essence) or descriptive (use in describing the thing).

I think it would serve us best to keep in mind the distinctions.

Paul Keating

From: <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Rebecca Tushnet <rlt26@law.georgetown.edu>
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 5:31 PM
To: Paul McGrady <policy@paulmcgrady.com>
Cc: "gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] "free speech"

That was the misstatement.  “Most nations don’t have a US-style First Amendment” would have been true.

 

Rebecca Tushnet

Georgetown Law

703 593 6759

 

From: Paul McGrady [mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:29 AM
To: Rebecca Tushnet
Cc: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org
Subject: RE: [gnso-rpm-wg] "free speech"

 

Hi Rebecca,

 

What was the misstatement you are trying to correct?  The most related statement that I could find in the Transcript was J. Scott who said “very few jurisdictions in the world have free speech.”  I didn’t see anyone who said “Most nations don’t have a US-style First Amendment.”  In fact, I didn’t see a single reference to the First Amendment in the transcript.

 

Regards,

Paul

 

 

Paul D. McGrady, Jr.

policy@paulmcgrady.com

 

 

 

From:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Rebecca Tushnet
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:35 PM
Cc: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org
Subject: [gnso-rpm-wg] "free speech"

 

Just to correct a misstatement on the call earlier:  Most nations don’t have a US-style First Amendment.  Most nations with a rule of law do, however, recognize freedom of speech in some form, including the right to criticize private companies.  As this Wikipedia entry notes, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country, implementation can be inconsistent on the ground, but I expect that inconsistent enforcement of trademark rights on the ground doesn’t mean that trademark owners want ICANN to ignore the law on the books; freedom of speech is equally a principle worth honoring.  In addition, I don’t know how many countries whose nationals participate in the ICANN process have signed on to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which includes freedom of speech, http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/, but I doubt we want to make policy based on the countries that don’t recognize any freedom of speech at all.

 

Also, you can’t have it both ways: if domain names can facilitate infringement, which they absolutely can, then they convey meaning; if they convey meaning, they can also facilitate noninfringing conduct or affirmatively protected freedom of speech.  It is just as true, or untrue, that a trademark owner can register a different string if it can’t have the one that it wants as it is that a person making fair or otherwise noninfringing use can do so.  This is especially so if we’ve given trademark owners the ability to jump the line in many circumstances.  Freedom of speech principles may help tell us when preclusion of a domain name to a speaker—whether a trademark owner or a non-owner—is of particular importance.  That is, they can help us identify the important false positives (notifications generated in response to domain names that wouldn’t infringe).

 

Rebecca Tushnet

Georgetown Law

703 593 6759

 

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