Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC
Dear RPM WG members, Please find the updated proposed agenda and materials below for the full WG meeting Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Draft Proposed Agenda: 1. Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest 2. Review of URS Proposals #3, #15, #22 – with proposal from Griffin Barnett (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 3. Review of TMCH Proposals #4 and #5 – with proposal from Rebecca Tushnet, Paul Tattersfield, and Claudio di Gangi (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 4. Review of Additional Overarching Question #3, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 5. Review of General Content Questions #1 and #2, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 6. AOB Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Ariel
Hi all, Per the proposed agenda item 2 below, attached please find two documents that will help guide the discussion: (1) an updated and consolidated URS Individual Proposal 15/22; and (2) a review and rationale regarding URS Individual Proposal 3 that ultimately concludes that this proposal is actually not necessary after all and should be eliminated from further consideration. On the latter point, the initial intent was to simply revise the proposal, based on discussions we had a few weeks ago, but in attempting to do so and conducting some further research, I found that the proposal is likely not needed for the problem it was apparently developed to address – this is of course discussed in more detail in the document. I will be happy to walk us through these items during the call. Any questions or feedback in the meantime is welcome. Best, Griffin ________________________________ [https://daks2k3a4ib2z.cloudfront.net/59358b8cf7332631232417e8/595fb59d73c5b113a1d2a61b_WIPG_LogoMark.png]<https://www.winterfeldt.law/> Griffin M. Barnett Associate Winterfeldt IP Group 1601 K Street NW, Ste 1050 Washington, DC 20006<x-apple-data-detectors://12/1> griffin@winterfeldt.law<mailto:griffin@winterfeldt.law> +1 202 759 5836 From: GNSO-RPM-WG [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 3:15 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org Subject: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Dear RPM WG members, Please find the updated proposed agenda and materials below for the full WG meeting Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Draft Proposed Agenda: 1. Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest 2. Review of URS Proposals #3, #15, #22 – with proposal from Griffin Barnett (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 3. Review of TMCH Proposals #4 and #5 – with proposal from Rebecca Tushnet, Paul Tattersfield, and Claudio di Gangi (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 4. Review of Additional Overarching Question #3, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 5. Review of General Content Questions #1 and #2, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 6. AOB Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Ariel
Thanks for this, Griffin. Look forward to discussing on the call. Cyntia King O: +1 816.633.7647 C: +1 818.209.6088 From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Griffin Barnett Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 11:52 AM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi all, Per the proposed agenda item 2 below, attached please find two documents that will help guide the discussion: (1) an updated and consolidated URS Individual Proposal 15/22; and (2) a review and rationale regarding URS Individual Proposal 3 that ultimately concludes that this proposal is actually not necessary after all and should be eliminated from further consideration. On the latter point, the initial intent was to simply revise the proposal, based on discussions we had a few weeks ago, but in attempting to do so and conducting some further research, I found that the proposal is likely not needed for the problem it was apparently developed to address – this is of course discussed in more detail in the document. I will be happy to walk us through these items during the call. Any questions or feedback in the meantime is welcome. Best, Griffin _____ <https://www.winterfeldt.law/> Griffin M. Barnett Associate Winterfeldt IP Group 1601 K Street NW, Ste 1050 <x-apple-data-detectors://12/1> Washington, DC 20006 griffin@winterfeldt.law <mailto:griffin@winterfeldt.law> +1 202 759 5836 From: GNSO-RPM-WG [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 3:15 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Dear RPM WG members, Please find the updated proposed agenda and materials below for the full WG meeting Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Draft Proposed Agenda: 1. Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest 2. Review of URS Proposals #3, #15, #22 – with proposal from Griffin Barnett (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 3. Review of TMCH Proposals #4 and #5 – with proposal from Rebecca Tushnet, Paul Tattersfield, and Claudio di Gangi (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 4. Review of Additional Overarching Question #3, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 5. Review of General Content Questions #1 and #2, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 6. AOB Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Ariel -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
Thanks, Griffin. I am persuaded on (2) but less so on (1), and like Cyntia, look forward to discussions on the call. Kind regards, Justine --- On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:59, <cking@modernip.com> wrote:
Thanks for this, Griffin.
Look forward to discussing on the call.
*Cyntia King*
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*From:* GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Griffin Barnett *Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2020 11:52 AM *To:* gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC
Hi all,
Per the proposed agenda item 2 below, attached please find two documents that will help guide the discussion: (1) an updated and consolidated URS Individual Proposal 15/22; and (2) a review and rationale regarding URS Individual Proposal 3 that ultimately concludes that this proposal is actually not necessary after all and should be eliminated from further consideration. On the latter point, the initial intent was to simply revise the proposal, based on discussions we had a few weeks ago, but in attempting to do so and conducting some further research, I found that the proposal is likely not needed for the problem it was apparently developed to address – this is of course discussed in more detail in the document.
I will be happy to walk us through these items during the call. Any questions or feedback in the meantime is welcome.
Best,
Griffin
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Dear RPM WG members,
Please find the updated proposed agenda and materials below for the *full WG* meeting *Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 minutes.*
Draft Proposed Agenda:
1. Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest 2. Review of URS Proposals #3, #15, #22 – with proposal from Griffin Barnett (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 3. Review of TMCH Proposals #4 and #5 – with proposal from Rebecca Tushnet, Paul Tattersfield, and Claudio di Gangi (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 4. Review of Additional Overarching Question #3, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 5. Review of General Content Questions #1 and #2, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 6. AOB
Best Regards,
Mary, Julie, Ariel
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Griffin: Thank you again for the time and effort you put into these thoughtful proposals and analysis. Your discussion of Individual Proposal 3 appears to have allowed the WG to complete its consideration of the matter. And I look forward to any further refinement that you and others may bring back to the WG in regard to Individual Proposals 15 & 22 and the problem of serial cybersquatting they seek to address. When I intervened to express procedural concerns regarding the latter on this morning’s call, I was experiencing technical issues that had locked me out of the meeting and chat (other than audio) and was therefore somewhat distracted trying to resolve the problem (which required a restart). So, thinking about our discussion post-meeting, let me refine my thoughts somewhat – noting that this is the view of just one of the three co-chairs, although I would hope they are generally supported after any further discussion. Therefore, I would posit the following: * When a WG member(s) seeks to further amend an Initial Report WG recommendation, and/or one or more individual proposals, the standard for the amended language’s inclusion as a WG recommendation in the Final Report is that it has achieved consensus support. We are past the phase of our work where proposals receiving only broad support, much less individual proposals with only limited support, should move forward. * The WG is not prohibited from considering the substantive content of any amended recommendation or proposal because some or all of it is new and has not been the focus of community comment on the Initial Report. However, when the amended content is included in the Final Report and it raises substantial new legal or policy issues, or places substantial new operational or financial obligations on ICANN stakeholders or constituents or ICANN Org itself, then at least those portions of the draft Final Report should be put out for additional community comment, and those comments should subsequently be reviewed and evaluated by the WG before a Final Report is delivered to Council. It would not be responsible, or fair to Council, for the WG to include new material of this nature without soliciting further community input. * If WG members support inclusion of an amended recommendation or proposal containing such substantial material in the Final Report, they should do so with the understanding that it will likely delay delivery of a Final Report to Council by mid-October and therefore require the filing of another Change Request with a revised delivery date; and that it will likely delay the completion of Phase 1 and the initiation of Phase 2 of this WG. Summing up, I hope this clarifies my view that the WG can consider new ideas at this stage of our work, but that in certain instances the inclusion of such new material in a draft Final Report should necessitate further community comment prior to the conclusion of phase 1. Best, Philip Philip S. Corwin Policy Counsel VeriSign, Inc. 12061 Bluemont Way Reston, VA 20190 703-948-4648/Direct 571-342-7489/Cell "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Griffin Barnett Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:52 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi all, Per the proposed agenda item 2 below, attached please find two documents that will help guide the discussion: (1) an updated and consolidated URS Individual Proposal 15/22; and (2) a review and rationale regarding URS Individual Proposal 3 that ultimately concludes that this proposal is actually not necessary after all and should be eliminated from further consideration. On the latter point, the initial intent was to simply revise the proposal, based on discussions we had a few weeks ago, but in attempting to do so and conducting some further research, I found that the proposal is likely not needed for the problem it was apparently developed to address – this is of course discussed in more detail in the document. I will be happy to walk us through these items during the call. Any questions or feedback in the meantime is welcome. Best, Griffin _____ <https://www.winterfeldt.law/> Griffin M. Barnett Associate Winterfeldt IP Group 1601 K Street NW, Ste 1050 Washington, DC 20006<x-apple-data-detectors://12/1> griffin@winterfeldt.law<mailto:griffin@winterfeldt.law> +1 202 759 5836 From: GNSO-RPM-WG [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 3:15 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Dear RPM WG members, Please find the updated proposed agenda and materials below for the full WG meeting Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Draft Proposed Agenda: 1. Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest 2. Review of URS Proposals #3, #15, #22 – with proposal from Griffin Barnett (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 3. Review of TMCH Proposals #4 and #5 – with proposal from Rebecca Tushnet, Paul Tattersfield, and Claudio di Gangi (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 4. Review of Additional Overarching Question #3, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 5. Review of General Content Questions #1 and #2, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 6. AOB Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Ariel
Hi Phil, Sorry to press, but you didn’t answer my question directly on the call today. What happens to new ideas coming out of public comment. Will they be given WG time or will they be punted to Phase 2? Thanks Best, Paul To receive regular COVID-19 updates from Taft, subscribe here<https://www.taftlaw.com/general/subscribe>. For additional resources, visit Taft's COVID-19 Resource Toolkit<https://www.taftlaw.com/general/coronavirus-covid-19-resource-toolkit>. This message may contain information that is attorney-client privileged, attorney work product or otherwise confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, use and disclosure of this message are prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Corwin, Philip via GNSO-RPM-WG Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:57 AM To: Griffin@Winterfeldt.law; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Griffin: Thank you again for the time and effort you put into these thoughtful proposals and analysis. Your discussion of Individual Proposal 3 appears to have allowed the WG to complete its consideration of the matter. And I look forward to any further refinement that you and others may bring back to the WG in regard to Individual Proposals 15 & 22 and the problem of serial cybersquatting they seek to address. When I intervened to express procedural concerns regarding the latter on this morning’s call, I was experiencing technical issues that had locked me out of the meeting and chat (other than audio) and was therefore somewhat distracted trying to resolve the problem (which required a restart). So, thinking about our discussion post-meeting, let me refine my thoughts somewhat – noting that this is the view of just one of the three co-chairs, although I would hope they are generally supported after any further discussion. Therefore, I would posit the following: * When a WG member(s) seeks to further amend an Initial Report WG recommendation, and/or one or more individual proposals, the standard for the amended language’s inclusion as a WG recommendation in the Final Report is that it has achieved consensus support. We are past the phase of our work where proposals receiving only broad support, much less individual proposals with only limited support, should move forward. * The WG is not prohibited from considering the substantive content of any amended recommendation or proposal because some or all of it is new and has not been the focus of community comment on the Initial Report. However, when the amended content is included in the Final Report and it raises substantial new legal or policy issues, or places substantial new operational or financial obligations on ICANN stakeholders or constituents or ICANN Org itself, then at least those portions of the draft Final Report should be put out for additional community comment, and those comments should subsequently be reviewed and evaluated by the WG before a Final Report is delivered to Council. It would not be responsible, or fair to Council, for the WG to include new material of this nature without soliciting further community input. * If WG members support inclusion of an amended recommendation or proposal containing such substantial material in the Final Report, they should do so with the understanding that it will likely delay delivery of a Final Report to Council by mid-October and therefore require the filing of another Change Request with a revised delivery date; and that it will likely delay the completion of Phase 1 and the initiation of Phase 2 of this WG. Summing up, I hope this clarifies my view that the WG can consider new ideas at this stage of our work, but that in certain instances the inclusion of such new material in a draft Final Report should necessitate further community comment prior to the conclusion of phase 1. Best, Philip Philip S. Corwin Policy Counsel VeriSign, Inc. 12061 Bluemont Way Reston, VA 20190 703-948-4648/Direct 571-342-7489/Cell "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Griffin Barnett Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:52 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi all, Per the proposed agenda item 2 below, attached please find two documents that will help guide the discussion: (1) an updated and consolidated URS Individual Proposal 15/22; and (2) a review and rationale regarding URS Individual Proposal 3 that ultimately concludes that this proposal is actually not necessary after all and should be eliminated from further consideration. On the latter point, the initial intent was to simply revise the proposal, based on discussions we had a few weeks ago, but in attempting to do so and conducting some further research, I found that the proposal is likely not needed for the problem it was apparently developed to address – this is of course discussed in more detail in the document. I will be happy to walk us through these items during the call. Any questions or feedback in the meantime is welcome. Best, Griffin ________________________________ [https://daks2k3a4ib2z.cloudfront.net/59358b8cf7332631232417e8/https://dg01.redatatech.com/onprem_image_fetch?cid=1016&ep=5cf4c90edff6f7c0c7e40178f5cdfe644096bc186f5c5b67af42fdd3d165da11bb9c9fc3d9d77cd6b5b274809397396694a0818231199c14d6fdfe92692ed886cba1fe3d826783ee9a653dcca5732a24ad509dcbe02154dbdbb9334888f9d0fa00569bb98ef66cc7a9f840bd1c009a2fb79ba59bcf25ca100b3cb24a338153e9ca7084447abb2fb22d1363f2a26ff777f5d2eb5e0640867cdbb9334888f9d0fac0cf2bb881bd7871ccf388043f46afed209ce5db852003ea9c4573b4e40cb215005c49481563ed22.png]<https://www.winterfeldt.law/> Griffin M. Barnett Associate Winterfeldt IP Group 1601 K Street NW, Ste 1050 Washington, DC 20006<x-apple-data-detectors://12/1> griffin@winterfeldt.law<mailto:griffin@winterfeldt.law> +1 202 759 5836 From: GNSO-RPM-WG [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 3:15 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Dear RPM WG members, Please find the updated proposed agenda and materials below for the full WG meeting Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Draft Proposed Agenda: 1. Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest 2. Review of URS Proposals #3, #15, #22 – with proposal from Griffin Barnett (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 3. Review of TMCH Proposals #4 and #5 – with proposal from Rebecca Tushnet, Paul Tattersfield, and Claudio di Gangi (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 4. Review of Additional Overarching Question #3, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 5. Review of General Content Questions #1 and #2, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 6. AOB Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Ariel
Hi Phil, Is there such an animal as an Amendment to a Final Report? If we come up w/ a revised idea that requires public comment, can we not complete the Final Report and, simultaneously w/ work on Phase 2, have a small sub-group review public comments then present the results to the full working group whereupon, if there is consensus, we file an Amendment or Addendum to the Final Report? Cyntia King O: +1 816.633.7647 C: +1 818.209.6088 From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of McGrady, Paul D. Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 12:00 PM To: Corwin, Philip <pcorwin@verisign.com>; Griffin@Winterfeldt.law Cc: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi Phil, Sorry to press, but you didn’t answer my question directly on the call today. What happens to new ideas coming out of public comment. Will they be given WG time or will they be punted to Phase 2? 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From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> > On Behalf Of Corwin, Philip via GNSO-RPM-WG Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:57 AM To: Griffin@Winterfeldt.law <mailto:Griffin@Winterfeldt.law> ; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Griffin: Thank you again for the time and effort you put into these thoughtful proposals and analysis. Your discussion of Individual Proposal 3 appears to have allowed the WG to complete its consideration of the matter. And I look forward to any further refinement that you and others may bring back to the WG in regard to Individual Proposals 15 & 22 and the problem of serial cybersquatting they seek to address. When I intervened to express procedural concerns regarding the latter on this morning’s call, I was experiencing technical issues that had locked me out of the meeting and chat (other than audio) and was therefore somewhat distracted trying to resolve the problem (which required a restart). So, thinking about our discussion post-meeting, let me refine my thoughts somewhat – noting that this is the view of just one of the three co-chairs, although I would hope they are generally supported after any further discussion. Therefore, I would posit the following: * When a WG member(s) seeks to further amend an Initial Report WG recommendation, and/or one or more individual proposals, the standard for the amended language’s inclusion as a WG recommendation in the Final Report is that it has achieved consensus support. We are past the phase of our work where proposals receiving only broad support, much less individual proposals with only limited support, should move forward. * The WG is not prohibited from considering the substantive content of any amended recommendation or proposal because some or all of it is new and has not been the focus of community comment on the Initial Report. However, when the amended content is included in the Final Report and it raises substantial new legal or policy issues, or places substantial new operational or financial obligations on ICANN stakeholders or constituents or ICANN Org itself, then at least those portions of the draft Final Report should be put out for additional community comment, and those comments should subsequently be reviewed and evaluated by the WG before a Final Report is delivered to Council. It would not be responsible, or fair to Council, for the WG to include new material of this nature without soliciting further community input. * If WG members support inclusion of an amended recommendation or proposal containing such substantial material in the Final Report, they should do so with the understanding that it will likely delay delivery of a Final Report to Council by mid-October and therefore require the filing of another Change Request with a revised delivery date; and that it will likely delay the completion of Phase 1 and the initiation of Phase 2 of this WG. Summing up, I hope this clarifies my view that the WG can consider new ideas at this stage of our work, but that in certain instances the inclusion of such new material in a draft Final Report should necessitate further community comment prior to the conclusion of phase 1. Best, Philip Philip S. Corwin Policy Counsel VeriSign, Inc. 12061 Bluemont Way Reston, VA 20190 703-948-4648/Direct 571-342-7489/Cell "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> > On Behalf Of Griffin Barnett Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:52 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi all, Per the proposed agenda item 2 below, attached please find two documents that will help guide the discussion: (1) an updated and consolidated URS Individual Proposal 15/22; and (2) a review and rationale regarding URS Individual Proposal 3 that ultimately concludes that this proposal is actually not necessary after all and should be eliminated from further consideration. On the latter point, the initial intent was to simply revise the proposal, based on discussions we had a few weeks ago, but in attempting to do so and conducting some further research, I found that the proposal is likely not needed for the problem it was apparently developed to address – this is of course discussed in more detail in the document. I will be happy to walk us through these items during the call. Any questions or feedback in the meantime is welcome. Best, Griffin _____ <https://www.winterfeldt.law/> Griffin M. Barnett Associate Winterfeldt IP Group 1601 K Street NW, Ste 1050 <x-apple-data-detectors://12/1> Washington, DC 20006 griffin@winterfeldt.law <mailto:griffin@winterfeldt.law> +1 202 759 5836 From: GNSO-RPM-WG [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 3:15 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Dear RPM WG members, Please find the updated proposed agenda and materials below for the full WG meeting Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Draft Proposed Agenda: 1. Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest 2. Review of URS Proposals #3, #15, #22 – with proposal from Griffin Barnett (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 3. Review of TMCH Proposals #4 and #5 – with proposal from Rebecca Tushnet, Paul Tattersfield, and Claudio di Gangi (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 4. Review of Additional Overarching Question #3, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 5. Review of General Content Questions #1 and #2, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 6. AOB Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Ariel -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
Hi Cyntia, We can always ask Council to include it in the next Phase Charter (similar to the cans being kicked down the road by the EPDP right now). Best, Paul From: cking@modernip.com <cking@modernip.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 12:26 PM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>; 'Corwin, Philip' <pcorwin@verisign.com>; Griffin@Winterfeldt.law Cc: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org Subject: RE: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi Phil, Is there such an animal as an Amendment to a Final Report? If we come up w/ a revised idea that requires public comment, can we not complete the Final Report and, simultaneously w/ work on Phase 2, have a small sub-group review public comments then present the results to the full working group whereupon, if there is consensus, we file an Amendment or Addendum to the Final Report? Cyntia King O: +1 816.633.7647 C: +1 818.209.6088 [Email Logo5] From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of McGrady, Paul D. Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 12:00 PM To: Corwin, Philip <pcorwin@verisign.com<mailto:pcorwin@verisign.com>>; Griffin@Winterfeldt.law<mailto:Griffin@Winterfeldt.law> Cc: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi Phil, Sorry to press, but you didn’t answer my question directly on the call today. What happens to new ideas coming out of public comment. Will they be given WG time or will they be punted to Phase 2? Thanks Best, Paul To receive regular COVID-19 updates from Taft, subscribe here<https://www.taftlaw.com/general/subscribe>. For additional resources, visit Taft's COVID-19 Resource Toolkit<https://www.taftlaw.com/general/coronavirus-covid-19-resource-toolkit>. This message may contain information that is attorney-client privileged, attorney work product or otherwise confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, use and disclosure of this message are prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Corwin, Philip via GNSO-RPM-WG Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:57 AM To: Griffin@Winterfeldt.law<mailto:Griffin@Winterfeldt.law>; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Griffin: Thank you again for the time and effort you put into these thoughtful proposals and analysis. Your discussion of Individual Proposal 3 appears to have allowed the WG to complete its consideration of the matter. And I look forward to any further refinement that you and others may bring back to the WG in regard to Individual Proposals 15 & 22 and the problem of serial cybersquatting they seek to address. When I intervened to express procedural concerns regarding the latter on this morning’s call, I was experiencing technical issues that had locked me out of the meeting and chat (other than audio) and was therefore somewhat distracted trying to resolve the problem (which required a restart). So, thinking about our discussion post-meeting, let me refine my thoughts somewhat – noting that this is the view of just one of the three co-chairs, although I would hope they are generally supported after any further discussion. Therefore, I would posit the following: * When a WG member(s) seeks to further amend an Initial Report WG recommendation, and/or one or more individual proposals, the standard for the amended language’s inclusion as a WG recommendation in the Final Report is that it has achieved consensus support. We are past the phase of our work where proposals receiving only broad support, much less individual proposals with only limited support, should move forward. * The WG is not prohibited from considering the substantive content of any amended recommendation or proposal because some or all of it is new and has not been the focus of community comment on the Initial Report. However, when the amended content is included in the Final Report and it raises substantial new legal or policy issues, or places substantial new operational or financial obligations on ICANN stakeholders or constituents or ICANN Org itself, then at least those portions of the draft Final Report should be put out for additional community comment, and those comments should subsequently be reviewed and evaluated by the WG before a Final Report is delivered to Council. It would not be responsible, or fair to Council, for the WG to include new material of this nature without soliciting further community input. * If WG members support inclusion of an amended recommendation or proposal containing such substantial material in the Final Report, they should do so with the understanding that it will likely delay delivery of a Final Report to Council by mid-October and therefore require the filing of another Change Request with a revised delivery date; and that it will likely delay the completion of Phase 1 and the initiation of Phase 2 of this WG. Summing up, I hope this clarifies my view that the WG can consider new ideas at this stage of our work, but that in certain instances the inclusion of such new material in a draft Final Report should necessitate further community comment prior to the conclusion of phase 1. Best, Philip Philip S. Corwin Policy Counsel VeriSign, Inc. 12061 Bluemont Way Reston, VA 20190 703-948-4648/Direct 571-342-7489/Cell "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Griffin Barnett Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:52 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi all, Per the proposed agenda item 2 below, attached please find two documents that will help guide the discussion: (1) an updated and consolidated URS Individual Proposal 15/22; and (2) a review and rationale regarding URS Individual Proposal 3 that ultimately concludes that this proposal is actually not necessary after all and should be eliminated from further consideration. On the latter point, the initial intent was to simply revise the proposal, based on discussions we had a few weeks ago, but in attempting to do so and conducting some further research, I found that the proposal is likely not needed for the problem it was apparently developed to address – this is of course discussed in more detail in the document. I will be happy to walk us through these items during the call. Any questions or feedback in the meantime is welcome. Best, Griffin ________________________________ [https://daks2k3a4ib2z.cloudfront.net/59358b8cf7332631232417e8/https://dg01.redatatech.com/onprem_image_fetch?cid=1016&ep=380769874990d2e70bc5ab77ffae18b5643d4c2789efb140ae01d3f5261b38f4a9fa89073462699e1687d4ca0ecea4f094a0818231199c14d6fdfe92692ed886cba1fe3d826783ee9a653dcca5732a24ad509dcbe02154dbdbb9334888f9d0fa00569bb98ef66cc7a9f840bd1c009a2fb79ba59bcf25ca100b3cb24a338153e9ca7084447abb2fb22d1363f2a26ff777f5d2eb5e0640867cdbb9334888f9d0fac0cf2bb881bd7871ccf388043f46afed209ce5db852003ea9c4573b4e40cb215005c49481563ed22.png]<https://www.winterfeldt.law/> Griffin M. Barnett Associate Winterfeldt IP Group 1601 K Street NW, Ste 1050 Washington, DC 20006<x-apple-data-detectors://12/1> griffin@winterfeldt.law<mailto:griffin@winterfeldt.law> +1 202 759 5836 From: GNSO-RPM-WG [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 3:15 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Dear RPM WG members, Please find the updated proposed agenda and materials below for the full WG meeting Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Draft Proposed Agenda: 1. Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest 2. Review of URS Proposals #3, #15, #22 – with proposal from Griffin Barnett (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 3. Review of TMCH Proposals #4 and #5 – with proposal from Rebecca Tushnet, Paul Tattersfield, and Claudio di Gangi (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 4. Review of Additional Overarching Question #3, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 5. Review of General Content Questions #1 and #2, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 6. 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I guess that’s one way to handle it. Just feel like there should be a means to incorporate an important item or two into the Final Report if we need to solicit public additional comments arising from suggestions made from the community’s most recent public comments. The Final Report could actually leave a space for an Addendum regarding one/two items that require additional public input. Cyntia King O: +1 816.633.7647 C: +1 818.209.6088 From: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 12:30 PM To: cking@modernip.com; 'Corwin, Philip' <pcorwin@verisign.com>; Griffin@Winterfeldt.law Cc: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org Subject: RE: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi Cyntia, We can always ask Council to include it in the next Phase Charter (similar to the cans being kicked down the road by the EPDP right now). Best, Paul From: cking@modernip.com <cking@modernip.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 12:26 PM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>; 'Corwin, Philip' <pcorwin@verisign.com>; Griffin@Winterfeldt.law Cc: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org Subject: RE: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi Phil, Is there such an animal as an Amendment to a Final Report? If we come up w/ a revised idea that requires public comment, can we not complete the Final Report and, simultaneously w/ work on Phase 2, have a small sub-group review public comments then present the results to the full working group whereupon, if there is consensus, we file an Amendment or Addendum to the Final Report? Cyntia King O: +1 816.633.7647 C: +1 818.209.6088 From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> > On Behalf Of McGrady, Paul D. Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 12:00 PM To: Corwin, Philip <pcorwin@verisign.com <mailto:pcorwin@verisign.com> >; Griffin@Winterfeldt.law <mailto:Griffin@Winterfeldt.law> Cc: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi Phil, Sorry to press, but you didn’t answer my question directly on the call today. What happens to new ideas coming out of public comment. Will they be given WG time or will they be punted to Phase 2? Thanks Best, Paul To receive regular COVID-19 updates from Taft, <https://www.taftlaw.com/general/subscribe> subscribe here. For additional resources, visit Taft's COVID-19 <https://www.taftlaw.com/general/coronavirus-covid-19-resource-toolkit> Resource Toolkit. This message may contain information that is attorney-client privileged, attorney work product or otherwise confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, use and disclosure of this message are prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> > On Behalf Of Corwin, Philip via GNSO-RPM-WG Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:57 AM To: Griffin@Winterfeldt.law <mailto:Griffin@Winterfeldt.law> ; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Griffin: Thank you again for the time and effort you put into these thoughtful proposals and analysis. Your discussion of Individual Proposal 3 appears to have allowed the WG to complete its consideration of the matter. And I look forward to any further refinement that you and others may bring back to the WG in regard to Individual Proposals 15 & 22 and the problem of serial cybersquatting they seek to address. When I intervened to express procedural concerns regarding the latter on this morning’s call, I was experiencing technical issues that had locked me out of the meeting and chat (other than audio) and was therefore somewhat distracted trying to resolve the problem (which required a restart). So, thinking about our discussion post-meeting, let me refine my thoughts somewhat – noting that this is the view of just one of the three co-chairs, although I would hope they are generally supported after any further discussion. Therefore, I would posit the following: * When a WG member(s) seeks to further amend an Initial Report WG recommendation, and/or one or more individual proposals, the standard for the amended language’s inclusion as a WG recommendation in the Final Report is that it has achieved consensus support. We are past the phase of our work where proposals receiving only broad support, much less individual proposals with only limited support, should move forward. * The WG is not prohibited from considering the substantive content of any amended recommendation or proposal because some or all of it is new and has not been the focus of community comment on the Initial Report. However, when the amended content is included in the Final Report and it raises substantial new legal or policy issues, or places substantial new operational or financial obligations on ICANN stakeholders or constituents or ICANN Org itself, then at least those portions of the draft Final Report should be put out for additional community comment, and those comments should subsequently be reviewed and evaluated by the WG before a Final Report is delivered to Council. It would not be responsible, or fair to Council, for the WG to include new material of this nature without soliciting further community input. * If WG members support inclusion of an amended recommendation or proposal containing such substantial material in the Final Report, they should do so with the understanding that it will likely delay delivery of a Final Report to Council by mid-October and therefore require the filing of another Change Request with a revised delivery date; and that it will likely delay the completion of Phase 1 and the initiation of Phase 2 of this WG. Summing up, I hope this clarifies my view that the WG can consider new ideas at this stage of our work, but that in certain instances the inclusion of such new material in a draft Final Report should necessitate further community comment prior to the conclusion of phase 1. Best, Philip Philip S. Corwin Policy Counsel VeriSign, Inc. 12061 Bluemont Way Reston, VA 20190 703-948-4648/Direct 571-342-7489/Cell "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> > On Behalf Of Griffin Barnett Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 12:52 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Hi all, Per the proposed agenda item 2 below, attached please find two documents that will help guide the discussion: (1) an updated and consolidated URS Individual Proposal 15/22; and (2) a review and rationale regarding URS Individual Proposal 3 that ultimately concludes that this proposal is actually not necessary after all and should be eliminated from further consideration. On the latter point, the initial intent was to simply revise the proposal, based on discussions we had a few weeks ago, but in attempting to do so and conducting some further research, I found that the proposal is likely not needed for the problem it was apparently developed to address – this is of course discussed in more detail in the document. I will be happy to walk us through these items during the call. Any questions or feedback in the meantime is welcome. Best, Griffin _____ <https://www.winterfeldt.law/> Griffin M. Barnett Associate Winterfeldt IP Group 1601 K Street NW, Ste 1050 <x-apple-data-detectors://12/1> Washington, DC 20006 griffin@winterfeldt.law <mailto:griffin@winterfeldt.law> +1 202 759 5836 From: GNSO-RPM-WG [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 3:15 PM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPMs PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC Dear RPM WG members, Please find the updated proposed agenda and materials below for the full WG meeting Tuesday, 28 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Draft Proposed Agenda: 1. Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest 2. Review of URS Proposals #3, #15, #22 – with proposal from Griffin Barnett (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 3. Review of TMCH Proposals #4 and #5 – with proposal from Rebecca Tushnet, Paul Tattersfield, and Claudio di Gangi (TBD), see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QTt_m5qdzoalRDcIUED01ur-yJgODCex8bj_... and the Public Comment Analysis summary at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pnqor6rHjvowH66GPQG9XI23n8H2mgkbf39-jA4K... 4. Review of Additional Overarching Question #3, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 5. Review of General Content Questions #1 and #2, see the Public Comment Review Tool at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV2tNPNhvIOskAlLVraWp-88mqzSc... [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wke2krmhV...> and the table of contents on the first tab 6. AOB Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Ariel <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_camp...> Virus-free. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_camp...> www.avg.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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cking@modernip.com -
Corwin, Philip -
Griffin Barnett -
Julie Hedlund -
Justine Chew -
McGrady, Paul D.