FOR WG REVIEW & DISCUSSION: Sub Team Reports (Re: Agenda for next RPM Working Group call this Wednesday)
Dear all, Please find attached the reports from the Sunrise and Trademark Claims Sub Teams. As noted in the agenda below, these will be presented by the Sub Team chairs for a brief initial discussion by the Working Group on the 21 June call, and will form the basis for further deliberations by the Working Group during the 3-hour open Working Group meeting at ICANN59. For each report/table, the updated questions and/or proposed alternative formulations of the original Charter questions have been put in bold font – this will be Column 3 for the Sunrise report (titled “Proposed Notes or Alternative Wording”) and Column 2 (titled “Updated Question”) for the Trademark Claims table. Both documents also show the original Charter questions in the first, left-hand column, and include notes on the related Sub Team discussions, including some questions and comments that show the latest dialogues among the Sub Team. These documents have also been uploaded to the Working Group wiki space for this Wednesday’s meeting, in both Word and PDF formats, for your easy reference and download: https://community.icann.org/x/qlDwAw Thanks and cheers Mary From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Monday, June 19, 2017 at 16:23 To: "gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: Agenda for next RPM Working Group call this Wednesday Dear all, The proposed agenda for the next Working Group call, scheduled for this Wednesday at 1700 UTC, is as follows: 1. Roll call (via Adobe Connect or phone bridge only); updates to Statements of Interest 2. Receive and discuss final reports from the Sunrise and Trademark Claims Sub Teams 3. Confirm opening and closing dates for Open TMCH Questions poll 4. Discuss co-chairs’ proposed agenda for, and intended outcomes of, 3-hour WG session at ICANN59 5. Next steps For Agenda Item #2, the Sub Teams will be circulating their reports before the call, hopefully on Tuesday (tomorrow). For Agenda Item #3, we hope to be able to publish the poll by the time of the Working Group call, if not before. For Agenda Item #4, please see the following suggested agenda (with the chronological order TBD): 1. Further discussion of reports and suggestions from the Sunrise and Trademark Claims Sub Teams (up to one hour each) 2. Panel discussion with registry and registrar representatives (up to one hour): * For this session, the co-chairs will be sending an invitation letter to the Chairs of the Registries and Registrars Stakeholder Groups this week, inviting them to send representatives to engage in discussion with our Working Group. Working Group members who are also RySG or RrSG members will be cc’d on the correspondence, as it seems likely they will be involved in their SG discussions. * The scope of the proposed panel discussion is likely to focus on the data collection suggestions that the two Sub Teams (for Sunrise and Trademark Claims) will be proposing (and which the Working Group will have the opportunity to review and discuss this week). Thanks and cheers Mary
Thanks Mary for this. Regarding the Sunrise Sub Team Report document, new Question 9 (below) was extensively discussed, including in Copenhagen. (“…should the scope of the Sunrise Period registration be limited only to gTLDs that are related to the category of goods and services in which the dictionary terms within the trademark are protected?”) To recall some obvious hurdles: (1) this ignores that trademarks owners may, and do, expand their businesses across goods and services (e.g., the bookseller Amazon just bought a grocery chain, Whole Foods), (2) there may be “infringing cross-over” (e.g., a cybersquatter may register the brand of a well-known bank in an insurance or HR-related TLD), and (3) what would be the limiting category of goods and services for TLDs such as “online”, “wtf”, “lol”, “prod”, “web”, “wow”, etc.? Therefore, while I am not sure of the process going forward, even if only as a practical matter, the continued inclusion of this question is, well, questionable. Thanks, Brian From: gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:22 AM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR WG REVIEW & DISCUSSION: Sub Team Reports (Re: Agenda for next RPM Working Group call this Wednesday) Dear all, Please find attached the reports from the Sunrise and Trademark Claims Sub Teams. As noted in the agenda below, these will be presented by the Sub Team chairs for a brief initial discussion by the Working Group on the 21 June call, and will form the basis for further deliberations by the Working Group during the 3-hour open Working Group meeting at ICANN59. For each report/table, the updated questions and/or proposed alternative formulations of the original Charter questions have been put in bold font – this will be Column 3 for the Sunrise report (titled “Proposed Notes or Alternative Wording”) and Column 2 (titled “Updated Question”) for the Trademark Claims table. Both documents also show the original Charter questions in the first, left-hand column, and include notes on the related Sub Team discussions, including some questions and comments that show the latest dialogues among the Sub Team. These documents have also been uploaded to the Working Group wiki space for this Wednesday’s meeting, in both Word and PDF formats, for your easy reference and download: https://community.icann.org/x/qlDwAw Thanks and cheers Mary From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> Date: Monday, June 19, 2017 at 16:23 To: "gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>> Subject: Agenda for next RPM Working Group call this Wednesday Dear all, The proposed agenda for the next Working Group call, scheduled for this Wednesday at 1700 UTC, is as follows: 1. Roll call (via Adobe Connect or phone bridge only); updates to Statements of Interest 2. Receive and discuss final reports from the Sunrise and Trademark Claims Sub Teams 3. Confirm opening and closing dates for Open TMCH Questions poll 4. Discuss co-chairs’ proposed agenda for, and intended outcomes of, 3-hour WG session at ICANN59 5. Next steps For Agenda Item #2, the Sub Teams will be circulating their reports before the call, hopefully on Tuesday (tomorrow). For Agenda Item #3, we hope to be able to publish the poll by the time of the Working Group call, if not before. For Agenda Item #4, please see the following suggested agenda (with the chronological order TBD): 1. Further discussion of reports and suggestions from the Sunrise and Trademark Claims Sub Teams (up to one hour each) 2. Panel discussion with registry and registrar representatives (up to one hour): · For this session, the co-chairs will be sending an invitation letter to the Chairs of the Registries and Registrars Stakeholder Groups this week, inviting them to send representatives to engage in discussion with our Working Group. Working Group members who are also RySG or RrSG members will be cc’d on the correspondence, as it seems likely they will be involved in their SG discussions. · The scope of the proposed panel discussion is likely to focus on the data collection suggestions that the two Sub Teams (for Sunrise and Trademark Claims) will be proposing (and which the Working Group will have the opportunity to review and discuss this week). Thanks and cheers Mary
Thanks for the below Brian; I fully agree. Furthermore the categories of G&S are notoriously complex and this would expect Registrars to know not just those categories but also the business sector of the Registrant, which by their name may not be obvious. Marie From: gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beckham, Brian Sent: mercredi 21 juin 2017 13:22 To: Mary Wong; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR WG REVIEW & DISCUSSION: Sub Team Reports (Re: Agenda for next RPM Working Group call this Wednesday) Thanks Mary for this. Regarding the Sunrise Sub Team Report document, new Question 9 (below) was extensively discussed, including in Copenhagen. (“…should the scope of the Sunrise Period registration be limited only to gTLDs that are related to the category of goods and services in which the dictionary terms within the trademark are protected?”) To recall some obvious hurdles: (1) this ignores that trademarks owners may, and do, expand their businesses across goods and services (e.g., the bookseller Amazon just bought a grocery chain, Whole Foods), (2) there may be “infringing cross-over” (e.g., a cybersquatter may register the brand of a well-known bank in an insurance or HR-related TLD), and (3) what would be the limiting category of goods and services for TLDs such as “online”, “wtf”, “lol”, “prod”, “web”, “wow”, etc.? Therefore, while I am not sure of the process going forward, even if only as a practical matter, the continued inclusion of this question is, well, questionable. Thanks, Brian From: gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:22 AM To: gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR WG REVIEW & DISCUSSION: Sub Team Reports (Re: Agenda for next RPM Working Group call this Wednesday) Dear all, Please find attached the reports from the Sunrise and Trademark Claims Sub Teams. As noted in the agenda below, these will be presented by the Sub Team chairs for a brief initial discussion by the Working Group on the 21 June call, and will form the basis for further deliberations by the Working Group during the 3-hour open Working Group meeting at ICANN59. For each report/table, the updated questions and/or proposed alternative formulations of the original Charter questions have been put in bold font – this will be Column 3 for the Sunrise report (titled “Proposed Notes or Alternative Wording”) and Column 2 (titled “Updated Question”) for the Trademark Claims table. Both documents also show the original Charter questions in the first, left-hand column, and include notes on the related Sub Team discussions, including some questions and comments that show the latest dialogues among the Sub Team. These documents have also been uploaded to the Working Group wiki space for this Wednesday’s meeting, in both Word and PDF formats, for your easy reference and download: https://community.icann.org/x/qlDwAw Thanks and cheers Mary From: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Date: Monday, June 19, 2017 at 16:23 To: "gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Subject: Agenda for next RPM Working Group call this Wednesday Dear all, The proposed agenda for the next Working Group call, scheduled for this Wednesday at 1700 UTC, is as follows: 1. Roll call (via Adobe Connect or phone bridge only); updates to Statements of Interest 2. Receive and discuss final reports from the Sunrise and Trademark Claims Sub Teams 3. Confirm opening and closing dates for Open TMCH Questions poll 4. Discuss co-chairs’ proposed agenda for, and intended outcomes of, 3-hour WG session at ICANN59 5. Next steps For Agenda Item #2, the Sub Teams will be circulating their reports before the call, hopefully on Tuesday (tomorrow). For Agenda Item #3, we hope to be able to publish the poll by the time of the Working Group call, if not before. For Agenda Item #4, please see the following suggested agenda (with the chronological order TBD): 1. Further discussion of reports and suggestions from the Sunrise and Trademark Claims Sub Teams (up to one hour each) 2. Panel discussion with registry and registrar representatives (up to one hour): · For this session, the co-chairs will be sending an invitation letter to the Chairs of the Registries and Registrars Stakeholder Groups this week, inviting them to send representatives to engage in discussion with our Working Group. Working Group members who are also RySG or RrSG members will be cc’d on the correspondence, as it seems likely they will be involved in their SG discussions. · The scope of the proposed panel discussion is likely to focus on the data collection suggestions that the two Sub Teams (for Sunrise and Trademark Claims) will be proposing (and which the Working Group will have the opportunity to review and discuss this week). Thanks and cheers Mary !DSPAM:594a56e016851147719990!
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Beckham, Brian -
Marie Pattullo -
Mary Wong