Dear all, Please find below the mp3, attendance, Adobe Connect recording and chat for the GNSO Standing Selection Committee held on 14 August 2017 at 18:00 UTC. Mp3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ssc-14aug17-en.mp3<http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ssc-14aug17-en.mp3[mailer.samanage.com]> AC recording: https://participate.icann.org/p7itd6rw6uv/ The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ssc/ Agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/fBMhB Attendees: Maxim Alzoba Julf Helsingius Poncelet Ileleji Susan Kawaguchi Osvaldo Novoa Lori Schulman Renata Aquino Ribeiro Apologies: Frederic Guillemaut ICANN staff: Marika Konings Emily Barabas Michelle DeSmyter ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 14 August 2017 Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the GNSO Standing Selection Committee meeting on Monday, 14 August 2017 at 18:00 UTC. Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_f... Renata Aquino Ribeiro:hello Julf Helsingius:Good evening! Michelle DeSmyter:Hello, welcome everyone! Julf Helsingius:Will mostly be typing today - got a bad cold and no voice left. Emily Barabas:sorry to hear that, Julf. Julf Helsingius:That's what happens when you visit Finland... Julf Helsingius:loud and clear Maxim Alzoba:I think there is a Finnish way to cure that - steam sauna and vodka (but the latter is for professionals only) Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Listening to you all well too Maxim Alzoba:At least I was told so in Helsinki by the local guy Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I won't be using audio much too Julf Helsingius:Maxim: I don't think the vodka would be good for my meeting participation... Maxim Alzoba:Julf: I agree, it might shift the perception of the moment Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all Maxim Alzoba:curing cold Julf Helsingius:Thanks! Maxim Alzoba:it kills bad bacteria Maxim Alzoba:no SOI update for me Emily Barabas:we can move them Emily Barabas:materials about the SSR2 candidates are available here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_q... Maxim Alzoba:I have already requested guidance from RySG ExCom and still waiting. Might provide my thinking about what was in materials though Julf Helsingius:How are we on diversity on the current SSR2? Maxim Alzoba:do we have a table of (location/part of GNSO/e/t/c for the current members)? Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome Lori! :) Maxim Alzoba:Hello Lori Emily Barabas:composition of the SSR2: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis... Lori Schulman:Hi Maxim and everyone Lori Schulman:Sorry I am late Marika Konings:Susan, I think you are referring to Eric Oosterweil who was selected by RSSAC Julf Helsingius 2:Will the recording of this discussion be public? Marika Konings:@Julf - yes, unless the SSC would decide differently. Maxim Alzoba:I underline - it is my personal perspective and not the voice of Registries, which I am going to send later via e-mail Marika Konings:Note that the SSC charter does state that: "To facilitate its deliberations, the SSC may decide to conduct some or all ofits deliberations in private, but if so, it is expected to provide a rationale with its recommendations." Poncelet Ileleji:Sorry for arriving a bit late Maxim Alzoba:Hello Poncelet Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Hello Poncelet Ileleji:Am fine Maxim Julf Helsingius 2:I have a slight preference for Norm as an independent Osvaldo Novoa:@Julf me too Maxim Alzoba:As I understand we need to provide it before 24th AUGm and it is 10 days from now Poncelet Ileleji:Me too @Julf Lori Schulman:Hi, they are all 3 qualified. I tend to lean toward either Scott or Norm because of their practical experience. I think that Julf's point is well taken about Norm being independent. Julf Helsingius 2:definitely the sooner the better, as some councilors need to consult their constituency Julf Helsingius 2:I agree with Lori - all 3 are qualified Maxim Alzoba:as I understand Norm has more DNS operational experience Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes, all 3 are qualified and also all of them have practical experience, just some in larger organizations Julf Helsingius 2:Good point! Emily Barabas:Here is Norm Ritchie's SOI: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis... Maxim Alzoba:also he understands how Registry backends work Maxim Alzoba:from ISC times Osvaldo Novoa:He was president of the Registrar Group Maxim Alzoba:what time UTC do we have as a deadline? Julf Helsingius 2:I assume midnight Maxim Alzoba:ok Marika Konings:the motion deadline is 23.59 UTC today Maxim Alzoba:I had a personal experience with Norm, as the tech party behind the application Maxim Alzoba:he performed well Renata Aquino Ribeiro:Rao Naveed has been fellow multiple times and coach... Maxim Alzoba:both from the legal side of things and from tech/operational Lori Schulman:Draw straws? Maxim Alzoba:I think since RrSG rep is not here - we might need to reach RrSG ExCom Poncelet Ileleji:I Agree with Lori, on Draw Straws Marika Konings:you could do a ranking of the three candidates via a poll? Marika Konings:and see who comes out on top? Lori Schulman:I am thinking Scott or Nomr Osvaldo Novoa:I prefer Norm Lori Schulman:Norm Julf Helsingius 2:Norm+ Poncelet Ileleji:Also as stated am thinking of Norm as an Independent Lori Schulman:I like the rankings idea Lori Schulman:its seems fair Maxim Alzoba:I like the ranking idea Renata Aquino Ribeiro:I think a survey w/ ranking would be good, can get more info from others not on the call Maxim Alzoba:yes Emily Barabas:sure no problem Maxim Alzoba:materials are few pages only per candidates Emily Barabas:sorry one moment Emily Barabas:sorry about that, here it is Emily Barabas:I will also send it around by email shortly Poncelet Ileleji:Thanks Emily Julf Helsingius 2:doesn't take long for us to read it Lori Schulman:reading now Julf Helsingius 2:looks good to me Maxim Alzoba:Do we need to add text that the 4th candidate expressed lack of interest? Renata Aquino Ribeiro:looks good to me Lori Schulman:That's is transparent Lori Schulman:5 infers that the 4th is not Maxim Alzoba:5th, but reading it - without this note might cause confusion Lori Schulman:Maybe say all were contacted and these are who accepted Julf Helsingius 2:Explicitly stating it draws attention to the one saying no - not sure that is fair Lori Schulman:put it positively not negatively Julf Helsingius 2:Agree with Lori Maxim Alzoba:can we say "three out of four " Renata Aquino Ribeiro:i agree w/ three were still interested Lori Schulman:Yay! for vacation Lori Schulman:me too. leaving Friday Julf Helsingius 2:Happy to do it Maxim Alzoba:+1 for Julf Renata Aquino Ribeiro:thanks Julf Renata Aquino Ribeiro:have a nice vacation you two :) Poncelet Ileleji:Am fine with the requested changes Maxim Alzoba:everything else looks fine Susan Kawaguchi:Thanks Renata! Emily Barabas:we will adjust the motion at the end of this call and circulate so everyone can take a final look Poncelet Ileleji:So am Fine Emily Barabas:Nothing I can think of Julf Helsingius 2:Remember what happened last time we didn't wait for everyone to respond... :) Renata Aquino Ribeiro:i'm ok w/ 48h deadline and maybe a reminder for those who didn't answer for another 24h Maxim Alzoba:+1 about clear reminder in UTC time and date Julf Helsingius 2:Should be doable by email Poncelet Ileleji:Great +1 Marika Konings:staff can send out the poll results and ask whether there are any objections to the results of the poll within 24 hours? Renata Aquino Ribeiro:+1 Renata Aquino Ribeiro:good too Maxim Alzoba:good idea Marika Konings::-) Poncelet Ileleji:+1 Maxim Alzoba:Could we have this slide deck? Lori Schulman:can you post live link in chat? Marika Konings:Correct Renata Aquino Ribeiro:+1 and on timeline too Emily Barabas:will send slides with the notes after this call Emily Barabas:thanks Marika Konings:the call for volunteers for ATRT3 has closed Marika Konings:so no new candidates are expected Marika Konings:or are you referring to the GNSO Liaison to the GAC? Maxim Alzoba:then it is fine Lori Schulman:GAC Liaison Maxim Alzoba:yes - it was relevant to GAC Liasion Marika Konings:Slides have now also been posted on the wiki: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dow... Lori Schulman:can you please post link to candidates? It is on slide by not live due to Adobe interface. Thanks. Lori Schulman:It takes years I think. Emily Barabas:The list of candidates and materials are available here: staff can send out the poll results and ask whether there are any objections to the results of the poll within 24 hours? Emily Barabas:sorry here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_q... Lori Schulman:thanks. Emily Barabas:at the bottom of the page Maxim Alzoba:how many do we need to select? Marika Konings:Note that staff (our colleagues at MSSI) already conducted a first assessment of the candidates which can be also be found on the wiki (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dow...) Marika Konings:3 guaranteed seats and 4 possible additional candidates (which is up to the SO/AC Chairs to select) Maxim Alzoba:Do we have confirmations from particular GNSO bodies (about the support of ATRT3 candidates)? Emily Barabas:Maxim, we have just received confirmation individuals who are members of SGs/Cs -- the wiki will be updated shortly Marika Konings:note that we do not ask about support, just confirm whether affiliation is correct Marika Konings:and as a reminder, there is no requirement to be affiliated with an SG/C to get nominated Maxim Alzoba:but there needs to be affiliation of GNSO Marika Konings:for example, the SSC nominated Erika Mann for the RDS RT who is not a member of any GNSO SG/C Maxim Alzoba:@Marika, it was questionable, but it worked Marika Konings:@Maxim - maybe not necessarily affiliation but affinity and/or knowledge? Emily Barabas:How would you like the poll to be structured for this one? Maxim Alzoba:it depends on a particular task, for example if seats are allocated for GNSO, Renata Aquino Ribeiro:diversity should also be observed right? Maxim Alzoba:I think there should be either support or affiliation Julf Helsingius 2:why? Renata Aquino Ribeiro:ok no other questions thanks Poncelet Ileleji:I aree Diversity should be observed Julf Helsingius 2:Maxim: how about us NCA's? Maxim Alzoba:it depends on the task Marika Konings:but for example for ATRT, there could be an independent expert on accountability who would have applied that the GNSO might want to endorse, even though the person may not be familiar with the GNSO. Hypothetically speaking. Maxim Alzoba:+1 Marika Renata Aquino Ribeiro:yes i agree on reviewing Poncelet Ileleji:True indeed Renata Aquino Ribeiro:i remember there weren't many suggested changes Maxim Alzoba:it would be great to see at least one candidate for GAC Liasion :) Marika Konings:and at some point the SSC needs to review its charter :-) Marika Konings:as requested by the GNSO Council when it was set up Renata Aquino Ribeiro:thanks, it was a very productive meeting Osvaldo Novoa:Thank you bye Lori Schulman:Thanks Susan. Enjoy your time off. I will. Maxim Alzoba:bye all Susan Kawaguchi:Thanks Lori, enjoy your vacation too.