Dear all, Please find the mp3 for the GNSO Standing Selection Committee held on 5 April 2017 at 13:00 UTC Mp3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ssc-05apr17-en.mp3 AC recording: https://participate.icann.org/p1fr3q3t4m8/<https://participate.icann.org/p1fr3q3t4m8/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=adafe81581d64faa1c522c7df75a296bd1944eab0fa9de6de3c681a267bc868e> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar&d=DQMFAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=xZIJEMTVQJAaGhrSEs-mGNP1af5ZhtLo5tjqyJUr5j4&s=zi8HqkcJPzyRZtbiQ-TlsxBQhcExCdcb-3Ezk1dDjec&e=> Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ssc/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/aL-RAw Attendees: Poncelet Illelji, Frederic Guilemaut, Maxim Alzoba, Julf Helsingius, Osvaldo Novoa, Hibah Kamal-Grayson (temporary alternate for Susan Kawaguchi) Apologies: Renate Ribeira Aquino Lori Schulman ICANN staff: Marika Konings Emily Barabas Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 5 April 2017 Nathalie Peregrine: (4/5/2017 14:37) Dear all, welcome to the GNSO Standing Selection committee call on April 5th 2017 Nathalie Peregrine: (14:54) Agenda page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_4... Maxim Alzoba: (14:56) Hello All Maxim Alzoba: (14:56) please grant me mic rights in Adobe Frédéric Guillemaut: (14:56) Hello All, Nathalie Peregrine: (14:56) Done Maxim! Welcome all! Frédéric Guillemaut: (14:57) ok, i just saw that i got the rights. Maxim Alzoba: (14:57) I will mostly write Frédéric Guillemaut: (14:57) i have no hardware probleme today, this is too simple. I will try to break something Maxim Alzoba: (14:58) in the chat ... the background noise will be on my phone too Maxim Alzoba: (14:58) Ok, will be back in 4 minutes. need to change the location Julf Helsingius: (15:00) Well, with this turnout it might be an efficient meeting... Osvaldo Novoa: (15:01) Hello all Maxim Alzoba: (15:03) back online Maxim Alzoba: (15:03) one second Julf Helsingius: (15:03) yes,but quite a lot of background noise Maxim Alzoba: (15:05) reconnected mic. should be less noise Nathalie Peregrine 2: (15:05) Hibal Kamal-Grayson's SOI: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_N... Julf Helsingius: (15:08) I think we have more than enough candidates to consider as it is Osvaldo Novoa: (15:08) Looking at the other candidates would let us see if the gender and geographinc diversity are as required or if we should make any adjustment Julf Helsingius: (15:09) Should we first see if we have a diversity issue? Nathalie Peregrine 2: (15:09) Poncelet Illeleji has joined the AC room Maxim Alzoba: (15:11) Ok about support confirmations to be later. Osvaldo Novoa: (15:12) I don´t think we have a diversity issue, on the contrary, I think we have a good group of candidates, but that might change in the whole Review Team once we see who the other SO/AC choose. Julf Helsingius: (15:12) That is why we'll have candidates 4-7 Julf Helsingius: (15:13) Sure! Poncelet Ileleji: (15:13) Very true @Julf Maxim Alzoba: (15:13) 7 is good number for 3 +4 alternatives Maxim Alzoba: (15:14) Mathematical question, why two 1 top places? Frédéric Guillemaut: (15:14) dealying whois works for one month is not a big issue, as hte whole thing has been lasting for a long time ;-) Marika Konings: (15:14) @Maxim - identical score :-) Osvaldo Novoa: (15:14) I support Julf sugestion Maxim Alzoba: (15:15) it is choice of places, then some additional qualification should be brought to select the only top one Julf Helsingius: (15:15) I don't think the order of the top 3 matters Maxim Alzoba: (15:15) on the other hand 1-1-2 is ok for 3top ones Maxim Alzoba: (15:16) or do we mean 1-1-3 Maxim Alzoba: (15:16) My concern is ... about the technical expertise of those top3 Poncelet Ileleji: (15:16) 4 to 7 Julf Helsingius: (15:17) we seem to be OK with the top 3 from all aspects Poncelet Ileleji: (15:17) What technical EXpertise Maxim Maxim Alzoba: (15:17) experience from the Engineering point of view with DNS system Maxim Alzoba: (15:18) not just legal and operational Poncelet Ileleji: (15:18) Yes Julf I say Top 3, 4 to 7 going on Ranking Osvaldo Novoa: (15:18) I think so, the top three are unanimously choosed. We should study the ranking of the next four Poncelet Ileleji: (15:18) Yes Marika based on Q5 Maxim Alzoba: (15:19) I suggest that we see the voting as a draft attempt ... due to incorrect pick of the 3 candidates, not relevant to GNSO Poncelet Ileleji: (15:20) Why will you say incorrect pick Maxim, I think folks voted based on data they had Maxim Alzoba: (15:20) those persons do not belong to the title f the Maxim Alzoba: (15:20) voting Julf Helsingius: (15:20) and those 3 are in the bottom 4 anyway Maxim Alzoba: (15:21) we do not know the composition - so they influenced the score Julf Helsingius: (15:21) I support going by Q5 Osvaldo Novoa: (15:21) +1 Poncelet Ileleji: (15:21) Thanks Julf Q5 +1 Julf Helsingius: (15:23) If we drop them it won't change the result Osvaldo Novoa: (15:23) There is no difference in the result if we go by Q5 or Q3 and Q4, we have the same 7 candidates. ¿Am I wrong? Osvaldo Novoa: (15:23) Sorry, there is a difference in position 7 Julf Helsingius: (15:24) Yes, Remmy vs. Timothy Poncelet Ileleji: (15:24) This Q5 will apply for 4 to 7 not top 3 which qualify Just to stating my earlier take Frédéric Guillemaut: (15:24) yes, number 7 is differetn, and to me timothy cvhen was in the top 3. i would push its application to be at least in the 7 Osvaldo Novoa: (15:25) I think Timothy is a better candidate than Remmy. Maxim Alzoba: (15:25) the voting was clearly called GNSO Candidates Julf Helsingius: (15:26) I wonder if some people supported Remmy for geographical diversity Maxim Alzoba: (15:26) Geo divercity is important from legal perspective Poncelet Ileleji: (15:26) Maxim I felt we had the schedule prior to the survey you could have raised this then thats my opinion Maxim Alzoba: (15:27) I did it Maxim Alzoba: (15:27) the incorrect voting has already raised concerns Julf Helsingius: (15:27) Yes, Maxim did, but I don't see how it would change the result Osvaldo Novoa: (15:28) I agree with Marika. It is up to the GNSO to decide who to support. We are not sure who they are right now Poncelet Ileleji: (15:28) I its not going to change anything Marika, we stand by the result Maxim Alzoba: (15:28) I have a question on GEO diversity Frédéric Guillemaut: (15:29) i saw that first vote as a draft, it is true. to be used to finalise our choice afterwards. So i guess we will have to re vote anyway. Julf Helsingius: (15:29) I was hoping teh next vote would be "is this list OK or not"? Osvaldo Novoa: (15:30) LAC will not be represented but unluckily his qualifications don't justify selecting him. Poncelet Ileleji: (15:30) If we use that criteria Maxim, then I as well talk of Remmy from Africa, but I think this should not be used as a yardstick to me Osvaldo Novoa: (15:31) +1 Maxim Alzoba: (15:31) someone might be required from other reasons, at least at alternative places... to be able to summon those ... but it is secondary ... so if we think that it is not that important now - I will drop it Maxim Alzoba: (15:32) I suggest we have additional questions to top 11 about texhnical experience Poncelet Ileleji: (15:32) I want to propose Q5 for 4 to 7 I need this be seconded Please Julf Helsingius: (15:32) I think we should provide the ranking as non-binding guidance Julf Helsingius: (15:32) seconding Osvaldo Novoa: (15:32) Any way the agreements of this call should be ratify or not by the rest of the group. We can propose a confirmation to the whole of the group and see if we reach a consensus, it would be like a re-vote. Maxim Alzoba: (15:33) no gender diversity in top 3 though ... but it is balanced by 4-7 places Poncelet Ileleji: (15:33) Yes Maxim its balanced by 4 to 7 Osvaldo Novoa: (15:35) We were asked to priorize the candidates Maxim Alzoba: (15:35) I support sending the list of 7 Julf Helsingius: (15:35) I support sending the 7 Frédéric Guillemaut: (15:36) yes Osvaldo Novoa: (15:37) I think that the only difference is in number 7 position Julf Helsingius: (15:37) Can we agree on 1-6v to start with? Hibah Kamal-Grayson: (15:37) I'm fine with having four additional names without ranking them, but I defer to others if people feel strongly about ranking 4-7 Marika Konings: (15:39) The current ranking of #4 - 7 = 4) Volker Greimann, 5) Marc Anderson, 6) Stefania Milan, 7) Timothy Chen Maxim Alzoba: (15:39) Q5 is more important, given that support comes not from our opinion but from Chairs Osvaldo Novoa: (15:39) i am ok with this ranking Hibah Kamal-Grayson: (15:39) I am ok with it as well Frédéric Guillemaut: (15:39) i am ok with tese four people Frédéric Guillemaut: (15:39) timothy marc volker stefania Poncelet Ileleji: (15:39) Am okay with the ranking Marika Julf Helsingius: (15:42) I was hoping we could avoid the call tomorrow Julf Helsingius: (15:42) (as it is really inconvenient for me) Marika Konings: (15:43) if you can all agree on the list, there is no need for a call (but no pressure :-) Frédéric Guillemaut: (15:43) this is a good list i guess. Julf Helsingius: (15:43) I am fine with the list Julf Helsingius: (15:43) Then there is no point in the call tomorrow Frédéric Guillemaut: (15:43) i ll send it today, will wait for the return, Poncelet Ileleji: (15:43) Its Feasible to me Marika Julf Helsingius: (15:43) if people can't commit Maxim Alzoba: (15:44) question about mp3 record/chat/transcript Julf Helsingius: (15:44) I guess we are in trouble if someone comes back with a "no way" on Monday Maxim Alzoba: (15:45) I do not think that hurry is more important then proper review Maxim Alzoba: (15:46) it would be great to have it as soon as possible Nathalie Peregrine 2: (15:46) Recordings and notes will be circulated under a couple of hours after the end of the meeitng. Transcript will be available in the next 8 - 10 hours. Julf Helsingius: (15:46) Is the transcript for general circulation? Nathalie Peregrine 2: (15:46) The transcription is posted on the GNSO master calendar: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group... Julf Helsingius: (15:47) Thanks! Julf Helsingius: (15:47) Just good to keep in mind if we discuss individual people Nathalie Peregrine 2: (15:47) And also on the meeting wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_4... Maxim Alzoba: (15:48) what is the dtae /UTC time of when we need to say - yes we need tomorrow call/no we do not need it Maxim Alzoba: (15:48) ? Maxim Alzoba: (15:49) doodle poll finishing by that time? Maxim Alzoba: (15:49) with yes/not/comment? Maxim Alzoba: (15:51) or to send replacement if they can not attend Julf Helsingius: (15:51) One possible answer might be "can't get answer in time" Maxim Alzoba: (15:51) it is no/no/no :) Frédéric Guillemaut: (15:51) thank you all, Osvaldo Novoa: (15:51) Thank you very much, I really productive meeting. Bye Julf Helsingius: (15:51) Thanks, Marika! Maxim Alzoba: (15:51) Bye all Frédéric Guillemaut: (15:52) bye Poncelet Ileleji: (15:52) Thank You Marika, and Bye all