Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Policy and Implementation Working Principles Sub-Team call held on Thursday 13 February 2014 at 21:00 UTC: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20140213-en.mp3 Attendees: Cheryl Langdon-Orr - ALAC Chuck Gomes- RySG Alan Greenberg - At-Large Avri Doria - NCSG Tom Barrett - RrSG Greg Shatan - IPC Michael Graham - IPC Nic Steinbach- RrSG Apologies: none ICANN staff: Marika Konings Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page:https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Peregrine For GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 13 February 2014: Marika Konings:Welcome to the Working Principles Sub-Team meeting of 13 February 2014 Chuck Gomes:Waiting for operator Chuck Gomes:I had connectivity problems Avri Doria:this meeting gave me an excuse to stop soveling that wonderful storm for a bit. Avri Doria:shoveling Tom Barrett - EnCirca:i am Tom Barrett - EnCirca:i haven't called in yet but i will Nathalie Peregrine:Tom is not on the audio birdge Nathalie Peregrine:Michael Graham has joined the AC room Michael R. Graham:Hello. Michael R. Graham:No phone -- what is the purpose of b? Should we not give the purpose as the basis/principle? Avri Doria:i have to opne the word version to rember what comments i had since we (obviously can't scroll) I may go back once i have seen what it was i commented on. Avri Doria:well that is a phrase we should hear less and less. Cheryl Langdon-Orr:indeed @avri Michael R. Graham:e.g. In order to ensure that steps or procedures implemented in order to bring Board-approved GNSO Policy into effect is sufficient for implementation but not overreaching or embodies different or new Policy. [I don't like this particularly, but a place to begin?] Tom Barrett - EnCirca:wse ARE still developing thatpolicy Michael R. Graham:Like "guidance" Avri Doria:well transparency is supposed to be the default Cheryl Langdon-Orr:never hurts to repeat it avri :-) Avri Doria:becasue it is somewhat derivative Nic Steinbach:Sorry for not having a functioning mic today Nic Steinbach:agree with Tom that we should delete Nic Steinbach:don't think it adds much Nic Steinbach:IT IS super important Nic Steinbach:but redundant Avri Doria:i am find with word smithing, as long as the content remians Avri Doria:i dont think our by-laws get enough notice. Michael R. Graham:Have to go offline. Greg Shatan:burden Tom Barrett - EnCirca:can we add "burdens" as in "obligations and burdens"? Tom Barrett - EnCirca:there are burden's other than financial...such as privacy Tom Barrett - EnCirca:if new obligations and burdens are imposed on parties, including financial, privacy, accessibility... Avri Doria:funny, whenver i hear 'right protection" i hear human rights protection Nic Steinbach:my mic is not working Avri Doria:and right to property is one of them, but only one oof them. Nic Steinbach:definitely. justice. thank you Nic Steinbach:sorry for the syntax mistakes. Nic Steinbach::) Nic Steinbach:i think that where we have including drafting Nic Steinbach:we could exapand slightly there Nic Steinbach:nvm didn't see the whole sentence Nic Steinbach:i just wish it had something in there besides drafting as an example of actual function Tom Barrett - EnCirca:vis-a-vis theoard...do we want the board to be resolving statelmates at all? Tom Barrett - EnCirca:vis-a-vis the board...do we want the board to be resolving stalemates at all? Avri Doria:iprefer GNSO council Avri Doria:anyone csn bring stuff to the council Alan Greenberg:We are trying to build the entire issue into this one item. Alan Greenberg:This was a statement that this WG MUST come up with a methodology to address policy-like issues discovered during implementation!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheryl Langdon-Orr:good call bye al until next week then... Tom Barrett - EnCirca:bye