Chicken and egg, as Rubens explained .. -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Domains http://www.blacknight.co/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 ________________________________________ From: Alexander Mayrhofer [alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at] Sent: 20 November 2013 15:34 To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Rubens Kuhl Cc: gtld-tech@icann.org Subject: AW: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs... The Registry Agreement is quite clear on this, though: "Registration Data Directory Services. Until ICANN requires a different protocol, Registry Operator will operate a WHOIS service available via port 43 in accordance with RFC 3912, and a web based Directory Service at <whois.nic.TLD> providing free public query based access to at least the following elements in the following format." Strictly speaking, it hence looks like running the WHOIS service under a different hostname would constitute a violation of the Registry agreement? Alex
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Michele Neylon - Blacknight [mailto:michele@blacknight.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. November 2013 16:28 An: Alexander Mayrhofer; Rubens Kuhl Cc: gtld-tech@icann.org Betreff: RE: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
They aren't obliged to use nic.tld afaik - the whois server is specified in their respective IANA entry
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________________________________________ From: gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org [gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org] on behalf of Alexander Mayrhofer [alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at] Sent: 20 November 2013 15:25 To: Rubens Kuhl Cc: gtld-tech@icann.org Subject: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
I'm using whois.nic.<TLD> - and, yes, nic.<TLD> is properly delegated and reachable in that case, but "whois.nic.<tld>" returns an NXDOMAIN. My understanding is that ICANN requires the WHOIS service to be offered under that hostname... See the respective specification in the AGB..
Indeed, the IANA record shows a different server - so, do i understand correctly that you can actually submit to IANA a different WHOIS server than the one required by ICANN? Can anyone who's already delegated confirm this?
Alex
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rubens Kuhl [mailto:rubensk@nic.br] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. November 2013 15:02 An: Alexander Mayrhofer Cc: gtld-tech@icann.org Betreff: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
Are you using whois.nic.<TLD> or the WHOIS server mentioned at http://www.iana.org/whois?q=<TLD> ?
Rubens
On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Alexander Mayrhofer <alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at> wrote:
Looking at some of the recently delegated new gTLDs, i was very surprised
to learn that the WHOIS service is unreachable for some of those TLDs (which makes me wonder how they passed PDT, or why the service degraded since then?). Anyways, since WHOIS is included in the SLA requirements of ICANN, this makes me also wonder when the SLA actually "kicks in", and, whether the SLAs are actually being measured right now by ICANN ...
Any information about this?
Alex