Hi, everyone. I agree with Edmon's initial thoughts and would add the following: 1. Thank the team for incorporating some of our suggestions - (agreed) 2. Highlight the finding that more policy work may need to be done beyond this project, and call for the community to start the work - (to add value we should try to be as clear as possible about what aspect of the work belongs in the policy domain) 3. Highlight the finding that parts of the IDN Variant TLD decisions remain in the poilcy realm (i.e. not just technical) - (same as above) 4. Escalate the issue of lack of review process for the proposed mechanism - (I think we need to trigger a discussion at ALAC level on this matter immediately because it is a governance issue and has high stakes involved (i.e., root security and stability, transparency and accountability of process, etc). Early feedback from the ALAC will help us refine the statement content accordingly - I will trigger this process at the ALAC level and request that Edmon as IDN Policy Liaison to guide the discussion) 5. Reiterate the need for policy oversight & the participation of affected linguistic communities in the process - (agreed, but we should clarify the preferred governance arrangements on policy oversight with strong argumentation/examples). I would also add item (6) below: 6. Request the Variant Program Team to clarify exactly what other ICANN procedures are involved in relation to the LGR process and possibly an estimated timeline. We know that there are other components of the Variant Program. It would be good to know which and when components come into play, in what combination, sequence, etc. Extract from doc that explains why I would add item (6): "The mechanism is not the last stage in making determinations about IDN labels for the root. Rather, its output is to be consumed by other ICANN procedures that actually determine whether a particular label is allocated to someone, and whether it is delegated in the root." I'm happy to work with Edmon on the draft statement and urge other IDN WG members to share thoughts/provide input as early as possible. Best regards, Rinalia On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon@isoc.hk> wrote:

Will discuss with Rinalia and get something drafted.

My initial thoughts are: 1. Thank the team for incorporating some of our suggestions 2. Highlight the finding that more policy work may need to be done beyond this project, and call for the community to start the work 3. Highlight the finding that parts of the IDN Variant TLD decisions remain in the poilcy realm (i.e. not just technical) 4. Escalate the issue of lack of review process for the proposed mechanism 5. Reiterate the need for policy oversight & the participation of affected linguistic communities in the process

Meanwhile, if anyone has any thoughts, please send them through here.

Edmon

-----Original Message----- From: idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Matt Ashtiani Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:27 AM To: Edmon Chung Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] IDN Variant TLD Program Procedure to Develop and Maintain the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone in Respect of IDNA Labels Second Public Comment Draft

Dear Edmon,

I am just following up on my email below. Can you please advise if you will be writing a Statement on the At-Large IDN Variant TLD Program – Procedure to Develop <https://community.icann.org/x/7YxEAg> and Maintain the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone in Respect of IDNA Labels – Second Public Comment Draft Workspace< https://community.icann.org/x/7YxEAg>? If so, when do you intend to submit it?

Regards,

Matt Ashtiani

Policy Specialist

ICANN

12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300

Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 USA

From: Matt Ashtiani <matt.ashtiani@icann.org<mailto: matt.ashtiani@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:04 AM To: Edmon Chung <edmon@registry.asia<mailto:edmon@registry.asia>> Cc: "idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org>" <idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>, Rinalia Abdul Rahim <rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com<mailto: rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com>>, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>> Subject: IDN Variant TLD Program ­ Procedure to Develop and Maintain the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone in Respect of IDNA Labels ­ Second Public Comment Draft

Dear Edmon,

Please note that a new PC regarding IDN Variants has been opened. Can you please advise if you will be writing a Statement on the At-Large IDN Variant TLD Program – Procedure to Develop < https://community.icann.org/x/7YxEAg> and Maintain the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone in Respect of IDNA Labels – Second Public Comment Draft Workspace< https://community.icann.org/x/7YxEAg>? If so, when do you intend to submit it?

Regards,

Matt Ashtiani

Policy Specialist

ICANN

12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300

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