Dear All
I still believe that whether or nor ICG is political or non political environment we need to follow normal practices that every body else follows..
If in IETF or other ICANN constituencies that practice was not followed, it is not to me to intervene. However, as far as ICG which has been established pursuant to the announcement of NTIA( political or otherwise) we should formally approve or confirm the election or designation.
I am n not convinced by the argument given below
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" 1. I don’t see a real need to formally confirm/designate the chairs/vicechairs. This was already done with the election and the acceptance of the candidates and is hopefully reflected in the related minutes. I think we are here in a working and not in a political environment where such a formal step may be applicable."
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In the quoted paragraph it is mentioned that ' the acceptance of the candidates and is hopefully reflected in the related minutes"
WHAT MINUTES.
Dear Col;leagues
There was some consultations ,there was poll.
There was some outcome .
Some voted .Some did not voted
The results supported the Chair and two Vice chairs as contained in one of the last e-mail
However, as ICG is a formal Group and its output and decisions are formal thus the designation /election of the Chair and two Vice chairs must be formally announced ,no doubt without any discussion ,what so ever ,
I hope that you have now been briefed as you should be and kindlky agree to that process
 Regards
KAVOUSS
I have not seen any minute( s0 as e-mail correspondence is e-mail correspondence and in no way is to be understood to construe as " Minutes"
As for SUMMARY OF DECISION or WRAP UP
I am happy that finally it is being accepted thus Patrik is kindly requested to include that in the agenda


It’s clear that in case of a public statement of the meeting this statement has to be discussed within the ICG. I suggest put the topic “public statement” under AOB – just as placeholder



2014-09-02 22:19 GMT+02:00 WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>:
All,
 
1. I don’t see a real need to formally confirm/designate the chairs/vicechairs. This was already done with the election and the acceptance of the candidates and is hopefully reflected in the related minutes. I think we are here in a working and not in a political environment where such a formal step may be applicable.
2. I agree that a meeting wrap-up should be done. This may be done in a written form with bullet points. I would not ask for a document similar to the GAC communiquees which need prior formal coordination.
It’s clear that in case of a public statement of the meeting this statement has to be discussed within the ICG. I suggest put the topic “public statement” under AOB – just as placeholder.

Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich
 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Version 1 of the agenda
 
Dear Patrik
Dear All
I humbly and once again suggest to add the two following items to the agenda
1.  Confirmation/formal  Designation of  Chair and Vice Chairs, at the very beginning 
2  Approval of Summary of conclusion reached/ decision made ( this summary should be prepared by chair and approved at the meeting)
Kavouss  


2014-09-02 12:06 GMT+02:00 Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se>:
All,

Can you who feel the most for the respective Agenda Items send me information you have, and I will try to add to the agenda so that it is more easy to understand. For example objectives.

   Patrik

On 2 sep 2014, at 12:19, Lynn St.Amour <Lynn@LStAmour.org> wrote:

> Thanks Patrik,
>
> I think the main issues are captured.
>
> Could I also suggest that for each item, the "agenda item leader" add a short statement of what we expect to accomplish (or a Purpose statement) as well as a link to the appropriate documents.  This will help remote participants (and may even help the ICG focus).
>
> For example:
>
> - IANA Functions Transition Request for Proposals “RFP”
>       Objective:   Approve RFP
>                       Approve Timeline
>                       etc…
> Best,
> Lynn
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:47 AM, Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Thanks for the comments. Version 1 of the agenda is just released where I have tried to move things around, re-allocated time slots etc according to the feedback.
>>
>> I have still not validated time for lunch, coffee break and translators. Those outside events might impact time allocation.
>>
>> Patrik
>> <Agenda ICG meeting Istanbul-v1.doc>
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