Dear All, The Chairs had 2 meetings with ICANN's communications team in Los Angeles and Singapore, they offered to support ICG in planning and developingneed inforgraphics, animation videos and media messages . As ICG progressing in the proposal evaluations it might be useful to explain some of our important processes to public in clear visual presentation, if we decided to accept ICANN support in this, its communications team will develop those infographs based on ICG guidance, review and approval. the infograhs and other produced media can be published in ICG web site. Please advice if we can proceed on this approach and develop some infographs with ICANN support. If yes, what issues/topics you think we should focus on ( e.g proposals evaluation/assessment process, the time line, .....etc ). Kind Regards, Mohamed
Dear Mohamed, Thanks for this: it is an interesting approach. The Cross-Community Working Group on ICANN accountability has used the team to help prepare information in a more accessible way and it did seem to help spark interest and understanding. And as we are certainly having problems communicating with registries not involved in the ICANN process (and even some that are!) on the naming function work, any help like this is only to be welcomed. Best Martin From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mohamed El Bashir Sent: 04 March 2015 20:14 To: ICANN Internal Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG future awareness/Infographics/Media messages Dear All, The Chairs had 2 meetings with ICANN's communications team in Los Angeles and Singapore, they offered to support ICG in planning and developingneed inforgraphics, animation videos and media messages . As ICG progressing in the proposal evaluations it might be useful to explain some of our important processes to public in clear visual presentation, if we decided to accept ICANN support in this, its communications team will develop those infographs based on ICG guidance, review and approval. the infograhs and other produced media can be published in ICG web site. Please advice if we can proceed on this approach and develop some infographs with ICANN support. If yes, what issues/topics you think we should focus on ( e.g proposals evaluation/assessment process, the time line, .....etc ). Kind Regards, Mohamed
+ 1 Hartmut ================================ On 04/03/15 18:29, Martin Boyle wrote:
Dear Mohamed,
Thanks for this: it is an interesting approach. The Cross-Community Working Group on ICANN accountability has used the team to help prepare information in a more accessible way and it did seem to help spark interest and understanding. And as we are certainly having problems communicating with registries not involved in the ICANN process (and even some that are!) on the naming function work, any help like this is only to be welcomed.
Best
Martin
*From:*internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mohamed El Bashir *Sent:* 04 March 2015 20:14 *To:* ICANN Internal *Subject:* [Internal-cg] ICG future awareness/Infographics/Media messages
Dear All,
The Chairs had 2 meetings with ICANN's communications team in Los Angeles and Singapore, they offered to support ICG in planning and developingneed inforgraphics, animation videos and media messages .
As ICG progressing in the proposal evaluations it might be useful to explain some of our important processes to public in clear visual presentation, if we decided to accept ICANN support in this, its communications team will develop those infographs based on ICG guidance, review and approval. the infograhs and other produced media can be published in ICG web site.
Please advice if we can proceed on this approach and develop some infographs with ICANN support.
If yes, what issues/topics you think we should focus on ( e.g proposals evaluation/assessment process, the time line, .....etc ).
Kind Regards,
Mohamed
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Mohammed and All, This is a good move to employ such a powerful communication tool. I would like to see, in addition to your list, ICG Charter, RFP steps and Finalization of the Proposal, better explained to the internet community and stakeholders in the simplest method.. However, since the ICG may not yet have a definite stand on the timelines, it may perhaps, be safer to avoid uncertainties while communicating in the manner being proposed. I support the Chairs' proposal. Mary Uduma On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:15 PM, Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir@mbash.net> wrote: Dear All, The Chairs had 2 meetings with ICANN's communications team in Los Angeles and Singapore, they offered to support ICG in planning and developingneed inforgraphics, animation videos and media messages . As ICG progressing in the proposal evaluations it might be useful to explain some of our important processes to public in clear visual presentation, if we decided to accept ICANN support in this, its communications team will develop those infographs based on ICG guidance, review and approval. the infograhs and other produced media can be published in ICG web site. Please advice if we can proceed on this approach and develop some infographs with ICANN support. If yes, what issues/topics you think we should focus on ( e.g proposals evaluation/assessment process, the time line, .....etc ). Kind Regards, Mohamed _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
Sorry, but I don’t see the need for this at all. I see it as a potential diversion from our substantive work and a time-consuming move into PR. As another matter, we’ve just detached our Secretariat from ICANN and now we get deeply enmeshed into their communications team? We might need some kind of better public outreach when we have assembled three finalized proposals and we are seeking public comment. Until then, I do not understand the need. Martin mentioned “registries who are not involved in the ICANN process.” It is a clearly defined part of this process that it is the task of the operational communities, in this case names, to involve all relevant groups in the development of the proposal. It is not our job to do so. So perhaps ICANN PR can offer their services to the CWG. I am shaking my head in disbelief about this, really. Simple explanations of the role of the ICG are not the primary problem the transition faces right now. It is not even a secondary problem, or a tertiary one. Let’s be realistic. The problem has to do with achieving consensus among a complex set of interest groups around management of the names root. The idea that we are going to advance that process with slick infographics about us strikes me as seriously misguided, almost narcissistic. --MM From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mohamed El Bashir Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 3:15 PM To: ICANN Internal Subject: [Internal-cg] ICG future awareness/Infographics/Media messages Dear All, The Chairs had 2 meetings with ICANN's communications team in Los Angeles and Singapore, they offered to support ICG in planning and developingneed inforgraphics, animation videos and media messages . As ICG progressing in the proposal evaluations it might be useful to explain some of our important processes to public in clear visual presentation, if we decided to accept ICANN support in this, its communications team will develop those infographs based on ICG guidance, review and approval. the infograhs and other produced media can be published in ICG web site. Please advice if we can proceed on this approach and develop some infographs with ICANN support. If yes, what issues/topics you think we should focus on ( e.g proposals evaluation/assessment process, the time line, .....etc ). Kind Regards, Mohamed
Hi Mohamed, +1, it is good idea and necessary if we could ask icann support with their clear clarification their relationship with this work, it will be better for community to know what happened. D't think volunteer can fit this requirement since it is professional job and resources needed. BTW, we cannot reject any help from community if they could clearly have clarification, we are also from community, internet is also based on community. Best Regards, -- Dr. Xiaodong Lee
在 2015年3月5日,04:14,Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir@mbash.net> 写道:
Dear All,
The Chairs had 2 meetings with ICANN's communications team in Los Angeles and Singapore, they offered to support ICG in planning and developingneed inforgraphics, animation videos and media messages .
As ICG progressing in the proposal evaluations it might be useful to explain some of our important processes to public in clear visual presentation, if we decided to accept ICANN support in this, its communications team will develop those infographs based on ICG guidance, review and approval. the infograhs and other produced media can be published in ICG web site.
Please advice if we can proceed on this approach and develop some infographs with ICANN support.
If yes, what issues/topics you think we should focus on ( e.g proposals evaluation/assessment process, the time line, .....etc ).
Kind Regards, Mohamed _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
Hi Mohamed, Thanks for passing this suggestion about infographics/communications to the group. I have read all of the other responses that have made it to my mailbox at this point and my view is that this is NOT something that the ICG should be leading. Although creating this type of infographics/communications does seem like a reasonable undertaking, I think that the leadership for it should be ICANN itself with close coordination with the involved activities that should include the ICG as well as others. I’ve reached this conclusion based on how the ICG got here and the goal we're trying to reach (deliver a single proposal to NTIA): - First, the overall tasking from NTIA for organizing & overseeing the activities in a multistakeholder manner was clearly directed to ICANN; - Second, creation of this type of communications really should consider the full set of activities that have happened and need to yet happen to reach the goal and ICANN should have the best view of the full set of activities; - Third, although the ICG is responsible for finalizing the single proposal, creation of the majority of the ‘real content’ (i.e., how things should work in the future) is done by the operational communities - unless all of the OCs (not just the CWG) undertake a similar infographics/communications effort, the effort by the ICG might over-emphasize the importance of the ICG; - Forth, NTIA has made it clear that the ‘official’ delivery of the single proposal must come from ICANN so it seems that they should also be leading the preparation of communications/infographics and obtaining input & coordination from the various groups. In short, the effort seems to be a good idea but I don’t think the ICG should lead it. Russ (M) On Mar 5, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Xiaodong Lee <xl@cnnic.cn> wrote:
Hi Mohamed,
+1, it is good idea and necessary if we could ask icann support with their clear clarification their relationship with this work, it will be better for community to know what happened.
D't think volunteer can fit this requirement since it is professional job and resources needed.
BTW, we cannot reject any help from community if they could clearly have clarification, we are also from community, internet is also based on community.
Best Regards, -- Dr. Xiaodong Lee
在 2015年3月5日,04:14,Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir@mbash.net> 写道:
Dear All,
The Chairs had 2 meetings with ICANN's communications team in Los Angeles and Singapore, they offered to support ICG in planning and developingneed inforgraphics, animation videos and media messages .
As ICG progressing in the proposal evaluations it might be useful to explain some of our important processes to public in clear visual presentation, if we decided to accept ICANN support in this, its communications team will develop those infographs based on ICG guidance, review and approval. the infograhs and other produced media can be published in ICG web site.
Please advice if we can proceed on this approach and develop some infographs with ICANN support.
If yes, what issues/topics you think we should focus on ( e.g proposals evaluation/assessment process, the time line, .....etc ).
Kind Regards, Mohamed _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
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participants (7)
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Hartmut Richard Glaser
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Martin Boyle
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Mary Uduma
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Milton L Mueller
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Mohamed El Bashir
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Russ Mundy
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Xiaodong Lee