Agenda for IOTF Call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC/07:00 PDT/10:00 EDT/Saturday 26 March 01:00 AEDT)
Dear members of the IOTF, Below, please review the proposed agenda for tomorrow's IOTF call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC). * Opening Remarks (Lise) * Implementation Items (Trang) . PTI Structure . CSC Charter * AOB * Closing Remarks (Lise) I have also attached the presentation material for your review. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: <mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> yuko.green@icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> www.icann.org
Hi, Thanks for sharing the materials before the call, and my apologies for missing the most recent call. The IANA transition proposal states that PTI will perform all of the functions currently covered by the NTIA contract (para 21, 23). There is no ambiguity about this. The communities had lengthy discussions about whether all of the functions would move to the PTI, and paras 21 and 23 reflect the community consensus. It is not worth considering or discussing a names-only PTI or any other option, as the substance of the proposal is not up for debate, re-opening, or re-interpretation in cases like this one where it is already unambiguous. On slide 7, in the “PTI - All 3 IANA functions” table, I do not know why ICANN is listed as an oversight body for numbers and protocol parameters. It is not an oversight body under the proposal. Also, in the case of protocol parameters, oversight is conducted jointly by the IAOC and the IAB. Finally, I wonder what “policy implementation” means and how it is different from “performance of IANA functions.” For protocol parameters at least they are exactly the same thing — carrying out the functions means implementing the policies set by the IETF and others. Thanks, Alissa
On Mar 24, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Yuko Green via IOTF <iotf@icann.org> wrote:
Dear members of the IOTF,
Below, please review the proposed agenda for tomorrow’s IOTF call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC).
¤ Opening Remarks (Lise) ¤ Implementation Items (Trang) • PTI Structure • CSC Charter ¤ AOB ¤ Closing Remarks (Lise)
I have also attached the presentation material for your review.
Regards,
Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org <mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/>
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Thanks for this Alissa, and I think that this reflects what myself and some others noted on the call earlier this week, that the names only PTI is not the expectation of the community as outlined in the various proposal. I really think that the implementation staff need to take this on board as from my perspective if that is made an issue of I think that we will need to go back to the ICG and consider this an incompatible implementation of the communities proposal. -James From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Alissa Cooper via IOTF <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Reply-To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in<mailto:alissa@cooperw.in>> Date: Thursday 24 March 2016 at 10:02 p.m. To: Yuko Green <yuko.green@icann.org<mailto:yuko.green@icann.org>> Cc: "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Agenda for IOTF Call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC/07:00 PDT/10:00 EDT/Saturday 26 March 01:00 AEDT) Hi, Thanks for sharing the materials before the call, and my apologies for missing the most recent call. The IANA transition proposal states that PTI will perform all of the functions currently covered by the NTIA contract (para 21, 23). There is no ambiguity about this. The communities had lengthy discussions about whether all of the functions would move to the PTI, and paras 21 and 23 reflect the community consensus. It is not worth considering or discussing a names-only PTI or any other option, as the substance of the proposal is not up for debate, re-opening, or re-interpretation in cases like this one where it is already unambiguous. On slide 7, in the “PTI - All 3 IANA functions” table, I do not know why ICANN is listed as an oversight body for numbers and protocol parameters. It is not an oversight body under the proposal. Also, in the case of protocol parameters, oversight is conducted jointly by the IAOC and the IAB. Finally, I wonder what “policy implementation” means and how it is different from “performance of IANA functions.” For protocol parameters at least they are exactly the same thing — carrying out the functions means implementing the policies set by the IETF and others. Thanks, Alissa On Mar 24, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Yuko Green via IOTF <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> wrote: Dear members of the IOTF, Below, please review the proposed agenda for tomorrow’s IOTF call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC). • Opening Remarks (Lise) • Implementation Items (Trang) • PTI Structure • CSC Charter • AOB • Closing Remarks (Lise) I have also attached the presentation material for your review. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org<mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/> <ITOF Call #2_25MAR16.pdf>_______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
I am uncomfortable with slide 7 (seems a power grab :-( ) and suggest the attached slide 7 image may clarify what was envisaged. Speak later. Best Paul Quoting James Gannon via IOTF <iotf@icann.org>:
Thanks for this Alissa, and I think that this reflects what myself and some others noted on the call earlier this week, that the names only PTI is not the expectation of the community as outlined in the various proposal.
I really think that the implementation staff need to take this on board as from my perspective if that is made an issue of I think that we will need to go back to the ICG and consider this an incompatible implementation of the communities proposal.
-James
From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Alissa Cooper via IOTF <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Reply-To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in<mailto:alissa@cooperw.in>> Date: Thursday 24 March 2016 at 10:02 p.m. To: Yuko Green <yuko.green@icann.org<mailto:yuko.green@icann.org>> Cc: "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Agenda for IOTF Call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC/07:00 PDT/10:00 EDT/Saturday 26 March 01:00 AEDT)
Hi,
Thanks for sharing the materials before the call, and my apologies for missing the most recent call.
The IANA transition proposal states that PTI will perform all of the functions currently covered by the NTIA contract (para 21, 23). There is no ambiguity about this. The communities had lengthy discussions about whether all of the functions would move to the PTI, and paras 21 and 23 reflect the community consensus. It is not worth considering or discussing a names-only PTI or any other option, as the substance of the proposal is not up for debate, re-opening, or re-interpretation in cases like this one where it is already unambiguous.
On slide 7, in the âPTI - All 3 IANA functionsâ table, I do not know why ICANN is listed as an oversight body for numbers and protocol parameters. It is not an oversight body under the proposal. Also, in the case of protocol parameters, oversight is conducted jointly by the IAOC and the IAB. Finally, I wonder what âpolicy implementationâ means and how it is different from âperformance of IANA functions.â For protocol parameters at least they are exactly the same thing â carrying out the functions means implementing the policies set by the IETF and others.
Thanks, Alissa
On Mar 24, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Yuko Green via IOTF <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> wrote:
Dear members of the IOTF,
Below, please review the proposed agenda for tomorrowâs IOTF call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC).
⢠Opening Remarks (Lise) ⢠Implementation Items (Trang) ⢠PTI Structure ⢠CSC Charter ⢠AOB ⢠Closing Remarks (Lise)
I have also attached the presentation material for your review.
Regards,
Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org<mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/>
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Completely agree James. On 3/24/2016 10:07 PM, James Gannon via IOTF wrote:
Thanks for this Alissa, and I think that this reflects what myself and some others noted on the call earlier this week, that the names only PTI is not the expectation of the community as outlined in the various proposal.
I really think that the implementation staff need to take this on board as from my perspective if that is made an issue of I think that we will need to go back to the ICG and consider this an incompatible implementation of the communities proposal.
-James
From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org <mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Alissa Cooper via IOTF <iotf@icann.org <mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Reply-To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in <mailto:alissa@cooperw.in>> Date: Thursday 24 March 2016 at 10:02 p.m. To: Yuko Green <yuko.green@icann.org <mailto:yuko.green@icann.org>> Cc: "iotf@icann.org <mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org <mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Agenda for IOTF Call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC/07:00 PDT/10:00 EDT/Saturday 26 March 01:00 AEDT)
Hi,
Thanks for sharing the materials before the call, and my apologies for missing the most recent call.
The IANA transition proposal states that PTI will perform all of the functions currently covered by the NTIA contract (para 21, 23). There is no ambiguity about this. The communities had lengthy discussions about whether all of the functions would move to the PTI, and paras 21 and 23 reflect the community consensus. It is not worth considering or discussing a names-only PTI or any other option, as the substance of the proposal is not up for debate, re-opening, or re-interpretation in cases like this one where it is already unambiguous.
On slide 7, in the “PTI - All 3 IANA functions” table, I do not know why ICANN is listed as an oversight body for numbers and protocol parameters. It is not an oversight body under the proposal. Also, in the case of protocol parameters, oversight is conducted jointly by the IAOC and the IAB. Finally, I wonder what “policy implementation” means and how it is different from “performance of IANA functions.” For protocol parameters at least they are exactly the same thing — carrying out the functions means implementing the policies set by the IETF and others.
Thanks, Alissa
On Mar 24, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Yuko Green via IOTF <iotf@icann.org <mailto:iotf@icann.org>> wrote:
Dear members of the IOTF, Below, please review the proposed agenda for tomorrow’s IOTF call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC). ¤Opening Remarks (Lise) ¤Implementation Items (Trang) •PTI Structure •CSC Charter ¤AOB ¤Closing Remarks (Lise) I have also attached the presentation material for your review. Regards, *Yuko Green* Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org <mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> <ITOF Call #2_25MAR16.pdf>_______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org <mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
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+ 1 and see below. On 3/24/2016 10:02 PM, Alissa Cooper via IOTF wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for sharing the materials before the call, and my apologies for missing the most recent call.
The IANA transition proposal states that PTI will perform all of the functions currently covered by the NTIA contract (para 21, 23). There is no ambiguity about this. The communities had lengthy discussions about whether all of the functions would move to the PTI, and paras 21 and 23 reflect the community consensus. It is not worth considering or discussing a names-only PTI or any other option, as the substance of the proposal is not up for debate, re-opening, or re-interpretation in cases like this one where it is already unambiguous. Completely agree with the above. My understanding of this stage of the process is that we are implementing the proposal not re-interpreting or re-working it.
On slide 7, in the “PTI - All 3 IANA functions” table, I do not know why ICANN is listed as an oversight body for numbers and protocol parameters. It is not an oversight body under the proposal. Also, in the case of protocol parameters, oversight is conducted jointly by the IAOC and the IAB. Finally, I wonder what “policy implementation” means and how it is different from “performance of IANA functions.” For protocol parameters at least they are exactly the same thing — carrying out the functions means implementing the policies set by the IETF and others.
Thanks, Alissa
On Mar 24, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Yuko Green via IOTF <iotf@icann.org <mailto:iotf@icann.org>> wrote:
Dear members of the IOTF, Below, please review the proposed agenda for tomorrow’s IOTF call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC). ¤Opening Remarks (Lise) ¤Implementation Items (Trang) •PTI Structure •CSC Charter ¤AOB ¤Closing Remarks (Lise) I have also attached the presentation material for your review. Regards, *Yuko Green* Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org <mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> <ITOF Call #2_25MAR16.pdf>_______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org <mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
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Dear all, Because of the terrible events in Brussels I had to change my travel plans and instead of flying home to DK yesterday evening I am now driving home. This means that I will be in a car at the time of our call. I can do the opening remarks and closing remarks but I will not be able to chair the call since I will have no or limited access to Adobe. I suppose that Trang or Yuko will be available to chair the call. Best, Lise Sent from my iPhone On 24 Mar 2016, at 22:41, Yuko Green via IOTF <> wrote: Dear members of the IOTF, Below, please review the proposed agenda for tomorrow's IOTF call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC). $ Opening Remarks (Lise) $ Implementation Items (Trang) * PTI Structure * CSC Charter $ AOB $ Closing Remarks (Lise) I have also attached the presentation material for your review. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org<mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/> <ITOF Call #2_25MAR16.pdf> _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
More than understandable Lise, Im sure we can make our way through the items with Trangs guidance. -James From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Lise Fuhr via IOTF <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Reply-To: Lise Fuhr <Fuhr@etno.eu<mailto:Fuhr@etno.eu>> Date: Friday 25 March 2016 at 10:12 a.m. To: "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Agenda for IOTF Call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC/07:00 PDT/10:00 EDT/Saturday 26 March 01:00 AEDT) Dear all, Because of the terrible events in Brussels I had to change my travel plans and instead of flying home to DK yesterday evening I am now driving home. This means that I will be in a car at the time of our call. I can do the opening remarks and closing remarks but I will not be able to chair the call since I will have no or limited access to Adobe. I suppose that Trang or Yuko will be available to chair the call. Best, Lise Sent from my iPhone On 24 Mar 2016, at 22:41, Yuko Green via IOTF <> wrote: Dear members of the IOTF, Below, please review the proposed agenda for tomorrow’s IOTF call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC). ¤ Opening Remarks (Lise) ¤ Implementation Items (Trang) • PTI Structure • CSC Charter ¤ AOB ¤ Closing Remarks (Lise) I have also attached the presentation material for your review. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org<mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/> <ITOF Call #2_25MAR16.pdf> _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
Hi Lise, Sorry to hear that your travel plans have been interrupted. The recent events in Brussels are indeed terrible and tragic. I will of course help with leading the call where appropriate. Talk soon. Trang From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org<mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Lise Fuhr via IOTF <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Reply-To: Lise Fuhr <Fuhr@etno.eu<mailto:Fuhr@etno.eu>> Date: Friday, March 25, 2016 at 3:12 AM To: "iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>" <iotf@icann.org<mailto:iotf@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Agenda for IOTF Call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC/07:00 PDT/10:00 EDT/Saturday 26 March 01:00 AEDT) Dear all, Because of the terrible events in Brussels I had to change my travel plans and instead of flying home to DK yesterday evening I am now driving home. This means that I will be in a car at the time of our call. I can do the opening remarks and closing remarks but I will not be able to chair the call since I will have no or limited access to Adobe. I suppose that Trang or Yuko will be available to chair the call. Best, Lise Sent from my iPhone On 24 Mar 2016, at 22:41, Yuko Green via IOTF <> wrote: Dear members of the IOTF, Below, please review the proposed agenda for tomorrow’s IOTF call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC). ¤ Opening Remarks (Lise) ¤ Implementation Items (Trang) * PTI Structure * CSC Charter ¤ AOB ¤ Closing Remarks (Lise) I have also attached the presentation material for your review. Regards, Yuko Green Strategic Programs Manager Global Domains Division Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693 Mobile: +1 310 745 1517 E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org<mailto:yuko.green@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/> <ITOF Call #2_25MAR16.pdf> _______________________________________________ IOTF mailing list IOTF@icann.org<mailto:IOTF@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/iotf
Apologies to all for missing both calls this week. I've started a new job this week, and it's interfering with my ICANN schedule. I agree with all the statements above regarding the form and functions of PTI, and the fact that this was settled a long time ago. I hope that we've gotten this back on track, after the issue surfaced in Marrakech. Greg [image: http://hilweb1/images/signature.jpg] *Gregory S. Shatan | Partner*McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP 245 Park Avenue, 27th Floor | New York, New York 10167 T: 212-609-6873 F: 212-416-7613 gshatan @mccarter.com | www.mccarter.com BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Trang Nguyen via IOTF <iotf@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Lise,
Sorry to hear that your travel plans have been interrupted. The recent events in Brussels are indeed terrible and tragic. I will of course help with leading the call where appropriate. Talk soon.
Trang
From: <iotf-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Lise Fuhr via IOTF < iotf@icann.org> Reply-To: Lise Fuhr <Fuhr@etno.eu> Date: Friday, March 25, 2016 at 3:12 AM To: "iotf@icann.org" <iotf@icann.org> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Agenda for IOTF Call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC/07:00 PDT/10:00 EDT/Saturday 26 March 01:00 AEDT)
Dear all, Because of the terrible events in Brussels I had to change my travel plans and instead of flying home to DK yesterday evening I am now driving home. This means that I will be in a car at the time of our call. I can do the opening remarks and closing remarks but I will not be able to chair the call since I will have no or limited access to Adobe. I suppose that Trang or Yuko will be available to chair the call. Best, Lise
Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Mar 2016, at 22:41, Yuko Green via IOTF <> wrote:
Dear members of the IOTF,
Below, please review the proposed agenda for tomorrow’s IOTF call #2 (Friday 25 March 14:00 UTC).
¤ Opening Remarks (Lise)
¤ Implementation Items (Trang)
• PTI Structure
• CSC Charter
¤ AOB
¤ Closing Remarks (Lise)
I have also attached the presentation material for your review.
Regards,
*Yuko Green*
Strategic Programs Manager
Global Domains Division
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct Line: +1 310 578 8693
Mobile: +1 310 745 1517
E-mail: yuko.green@icann.org
www.icann.org
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Alissa Cooper -
Greg Shatan -
James Gannon -
Lise Fuhr -
Matthew Shears -
Paul M Kane - CWG -
Trang Nguyen -
Yuko Green