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Do we need one (for right now)? Sent with Good (www.good.com) -----Original Message----- From: McGrady, Paul D. [PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com>] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:00 PM Pacific Standard Time To: IPC-GNSO Subject: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair IPC Leadership: What's the plan for our (interim?) vice chair? No doubt it will come up in today's wrap up session. Sent from my iPhone The contents of this message may be privileged and confidential. Therefore, if this message has been received in error, please delete it without reading it. Your receipt of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privilege. Please do not disseminate this message without the permission of the author. _______________________________________________ IPC-GNSO mailing list IPC-GNSO@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ipc-gnso<https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ipc-gnso>
Not sure. Contracted parties reappointed Volker (for now). So I guess he can run things alone in the absence of a second vice chair until a suitable Chair is negotiated. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:02 AM, Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com>> wrote: Do we need one (for right now)? Sent with Good (www.good.com<http://www.good.com>) -----Original Message----- From: McGrady, Paul D. [PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com>] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:00 PM Pacific Standard Time To: IPC-GNSO Subject: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair IPC Leadership: What's the plan for our (interim?) vice chair? No doubt it will come up in today's wrap up session. Sent from my iPhone The contents of this message may be privileged and confidential. Therefore, if this message has been received in error, please delete it without reading it. Your receipt of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privilege. Please do not disseminate this message without the permission of the author. _______________________________________________ IPC-GNSO mailing list IPC-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:IPC-GNSO@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ipc-gnso The contents of this message may be privileged and confidential. Therefore, if this message has been received in error, please delete it without reading it. Your receipt of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privilege. Please do not disseminate this message without the permission of the author.
From my late night read of the GNSO Procedure and the ICANN Bylaws, this is not expressly stated. It merely says there are two vice chairs, one from each house, with terms of no more than one year (but no term limits are stated, other than those that apply to them as Councilors).
There is no provision for the current situation. There is no "hold over" concept as there is with Board seats, where the sitting Board continues until replaced, if not replaced at the end of the term. As a governance matter, the GNSO Council is likely better off with two vice-chairs, but it can certainly function for a limited period of time with one. We are in uncharted territory. Greg On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:33 AM, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com> wrote:
Not sure. Contracted parties reappointed Volker (for now). So I guess he can run things alone in the absence of a second vice chair until a suitable Chair is negotiated.
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On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:02 AM, Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com<mailto: met@msk.com>> wrote:
Do we need one (for right now)?
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-----Original Message----- From: McGrady, Paul D. [PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com>] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:00 PM Pacific Standard Time To: IPC-GNSO Subject: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair
IPC Leadership:
What's the plan for our (interim?) vice chair? No doubt it will come up in today's wrap up session.
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My thoughts are to elect our vice chair now until the chair issue is resolved. Lori S. Schulman Senior Director, Internet Policy INTA 202-261-6588 ________________________________ From: Greg Shatan<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com> Sent: 10/22/2015 3:29 AM To: McGrady, Paul D.<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com> Cc: IPC-GNSO<mailto:ipc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: Re: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair
From my late night read of the GNSO Procedure and the ICANN Bylaws, this is not expressly stated. It merely says there are two vice chairs, one from each house, with terms of no more than one year (but no term limits are stated, other than those that apply to them as Councilors).
There is no provision for the current situation. There is no "hold over" concept as there is with Board seats, where the sitting Board continues until replaced, if not replaced at the end of the term. As a governance matter, the GNSO Council is likely better off with two vice-chairs, but it can certainly function for a limited period of time with one. We are in uncharted territory. Greg On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:33 AM, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com>> wrote: Not sure. Contracted parties reappointed Volker (for now). So I guess he can run things alone in the absence of a second vice chair until a suitable Chair is negotiated. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:02 AM, Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com><mailto:met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com>>> wrote: Do we need one (for right now)? Sent with Good (www.good.com<http://www.good.com><http://www.good.com>) -----Original Message----- From: McGrady, Paul D. [PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com><mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com>>] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:00 PM Pacific Standard Time To: IPC-GNSO Subject: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair IPC Leadership: What's the plan for our (interim?) vice chair? No doubt it will come up in today's wrap up session. Sent from my iPhone The contents of this message may be privileged and confidential. Therefore, if this message has been received in error, please delete it without reading it. Your receipt of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privilege. Please do not disseminate this message without the permission of the author. _______________________________________________ IPC-GNSO mailing list IPC-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:IPC-GNSO@icann.org><mailto:IPC-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:IPC-GNSO@icann.org>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ipc-gnso The contents of this message may be privileged and confidential. Therefore, if this message has been received in error, please delete it without reading it. Your receipt of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privilege. Please do not disseminate this message without the permission of the author. _______________________________________________ IPC-GNSO mailing list IPC-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:IPC-GNSO@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ipc-gnso
Yes, an interim vice chair is a reasonable and pragmatic approach. We will need to develop a position across the house quite quickly. Greg On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lori Schulman <lschulman@inta.org> wrote:
My thoughts are to elect our vice chair now until the chair issue is resolved.
Lori S. Schulman Senior Director, Internet Policy INTA 202-261-6588 ------------------------------ From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> Sent: 10/22/2015 3:29 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com> Cc: IPC-GNSO <ipc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: Re: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair
From my late night read of the GNSO Procedure and the ICANN Bylaws, this is not expressly stated. It merely says there are two vice chairs, one from each house, with terms of no more than one year (but no term limits are stated, other than those that apply to them as Councilors).
There is no provision for the current situation. There is no "hold over" concept as there is with Board seats, where the sitting Board continues until replaced, if not replaced at the end of the term.
As a governance matter, the GNSO Council is likely better off with two vice-chairs, but it can certainly function for a limited period of time with one.
We are in uncharted territory.
Greg
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:33 AM, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com> wrote:
Not sure. Contracted parties reappointed Volker (for now). So I guess he can run things alone in the absence of a second vice chair until a suitable Chair is negotiated.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:02 AM, Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com<mailto: met@msk.com>> wrote:
Do we need one (for right now)?
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-----Original Message----- From: McGrady, Paul D. [PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com
] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:00 PM Pacific Standard Time To: IPC-GNSO Subject: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair
IPC Leadership:
What's the plan for our (interim?) vice chair? No doubt it will come up in today's wrap up session.
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Referring to the current situation, I agree that it is the best way right now to elect to vice chairs (and that we at the same time clearly refer to the fact that this does not stop our candidate to step up for the chair election). Best, Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you 22 oktober 2015 09:37:56 +02:00, skrev Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com>:
Yes, an interim vice chair is a reasonable and pragmatic approach. We will need to develop a position across the house quite quickly.
Greg
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lori Schulman <<lschulman@inta.org>> wrote:
My thoughts are to elect our vice chair now until the chair issue is resolved.
Lori S. Schulman Senior Director, Internet Policy INTA 202-261-6588 <tel:202-261-6588>
From:Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> Sent:10/22/2015 3:29 AM
To:McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com>
Cc:IPC-GNSO <ipc-gnso@icann.org>
Subject:Re: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair
From my late night read of the GNSO Procedure and the ICANN Bylaws, this is not expressly stated. It merely says there are two vice chairs, one from each house, with terms of no more than one year (but no term limits are stated, other than those that apply to them as Councilors).
There is no provision for the current situation. There is no "hold over" concept as there is with Board seats, where the sitting Board continues until replaced, if not replaced at the end of the term.
As a governance matter, the GNSO Council is likely better off with two vice-chairs, but it can certainly function for a limited period of time with one.
We are in uncharted territory.
Greg
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:33 AM, McGrady, Paul D. <<PMcGrady@winston.com>> wrote:
Not sure. Contracted parties reappointed Volker (for now). So I guess he can run things alone in the absence of a second vice chair until a suitable Chair is negotiated.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:02 AM, Metalitz, Steven <<met@msk.com><mailto:<met@msk.com>>> wrote:
Do we need one (for right now)? Sent with Good (<http://www.good.com><<http://www.good.com>>) -----Original Message----- From: McGrady, Paul D. [<PMcGrady@winston.com><mailto:<PMcGrady@winston.com>>] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:00 PM Pacific Standard Time To: IPC-GNSO Subject: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair
IPC Leadership:
What's the plan for our (interim?) vice chair? No doubt it will come up in today's wrap up session.
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I agree we need a vice-chair for the interim. Is there any objection to the current vice chair being reappointed on that basis – either from us or indeed from the candidate themselves? I imagine that it would be a challenge at the moment to try to agree, as a house, on a new candidate at this point. Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy | Valideus Ltd 28-30 Little Russell Street London, WC1A 2HN, United Kingdom E: susan.payne@valideus.com<mailto:susan.payne@valideus.com> D: +44 20 7421 8255 T: +44 20 7421 8299 M: +44 7971 661175 From: ipc-gnso-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ipc-gnso-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Petter Rindforth Sent: 22 October 2015 08:44 To: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> Cc: IPC-GNSO <ipc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: Re: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair Referring to the current situation, I agree that it is the best way right now to elect to vice chairs (and that we at the same time clearly refer to the fact that this does not stop our candidate to step up for the chair election). Best, Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu<mailto:petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu> www.fenixlegal.eu<http://www.fenixlegal.eu> NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu<http://www.fenixlegal.eu> Thank you 22 oktober 2015 09:37:56 +02:00, skrev Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>>: Yes, an interim vice chair is a reasonable and pragmatic approach. We will need to develop a position across the house quite quickly. Greg On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lori Schulman <lschulman@inta.org<mailto:lschulman@inta.org>> wrote: My thoughts are to elect our vice chair now until the chair issue is resolved. Lori S. Schulman Senior Director, Internet Policy INTA 202-261-6588<tel:202-261-6588> ________________________________ From: Greg Shatan<mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com> Sent: 10/22/2015 3:29 AM To: McGrady, Paul D.<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com> Cc: IPC-GNSO<mailto:ipc-gnso@icann.org> Subject: Re: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair From my late night read of the GNSO Procedure and the ICANN Bylaws, this is not expressly stated. It merely says there are two vice chairs, one from each house, with terms of no more than one year (but no term limits are stated, other than those that apply to them as Councilors). There is no provision for the current situation. There is no "hold over" concept as there is with Board seats, where the sitting Board continues until replaced, if not replaced at the end of the term. As a governance matter, the GNSO Council is likely better off with two vice-chairs, but it can certainly function for a limited period of time with one. We are in uncharted territory. Greg On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:33 AM, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com>> wrote: Not sure. Contracted parties reappointed Volker (for now). So I guess he can run things alone in the absence of a second vice chair until a suitable Chair is negotiated. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:02 AM, Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com><mailto:met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com>>> wrote: Do we need one (for right now)? Sent with Good (www.good.com<http://www.good.com><http://www.good.com>) -----Original Message----- From: McGrady, Paul D. [PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com><mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com>>] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:00 PM Pacific Standard Time To: IPC-GNSO Subject: [IPC-GNSO] Vice chair IPC Leadership: What's the plan for our (interim?) vice chair? No doubt it will come up in today's wrap up session. Sent from my iPhone The contents of this message may be privileged and confidential. Therefore, if this message has been received in error, please delete it without reading it. Your receipt of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privilege. Please do not disseminate this message without the permission of the author. _______________________________________________ IPC-GNSO mailing list IPC-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:IPC-GNSO@icann.org><mailto:IPC-GNSO@icann.org<mailto:IPC-GNSO@icann.org>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ipc-gnso The contents of this message may be privileged and confidential. 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