I guess 7.1.X is a matter of the interpretation of the word "transfer".

7.1.1. Domain Name > Already in place for technical reasons.
 7.1.2. Registrar URL -> out of band, registrar portal
 7.1.3. Registrar -> login
 7.1.4. Registrar IANA ID -> out of band, account accreditation
 7.1.5. Registrar Abuse Contact Email -> out of band, registrar portal
 7.1.6. Registrar Abuse Contact Phone -> out of band, registrar portal
 7.1.7. Domain Status(es) -> Already in place for technical reasons.

Makes me wonder if the above is really required for the policy.


Best,

Theo


Op 11/05/2023 om 11:42 schreef Theo Geurts via IRT.RegDataPolicy:

Hi,

The policy states the following;

7. Transfer of Registration Data from Registrar to Registry Operator
7.1. Registrar MUST transfer the following data elements to Registry Operator: (See
Implementation Note B.1-2)
7.1.1. Domain Name
7.1.2. Registrar URL
7.1.3. Registrar
7.1.4. Registrar IANA ID
7.1.5. Registrar Abuse Contact Email
7.1.6. Registrar Abuse Contact Phone
7.1.7. Domain Status(es)

However this is not how it technically works.

When you send a domain create to the registry using EPP it contains the following information.

1 Domain name

2 Name servers (optional)

3 Period 1-10

That is it.

The same goes for the registrar WHOIS server, this is not something registrars send to the registry.

A note on the IANA ID, only Verisign uses that. Other gTLD's use a different ID in their database and as such in the RDAP/WHOIS output.


7.5.2. Reseller
This information is not send to a registry. Such information is available sometimes at an RDAP or WHOIS server.


Section 9.2.5 Proxy services. In order to make this work we need an new EPP extension to mark such registrations so the registry can identify such registrations.


From an implementation point of view. The changes at the registry and registrar level are massive. Let me boil this down to three phases of implementation.

Registry changes, backwards compatible

Registry changes + migration

Registry changes, final

The above is just high level, most likely I missed a few other things. However if there is an idea to implement all this within a one month time frame at a set date, that is going to be very risky and a real challenge and I advise not to go down that route.

Best,

Theo





Op 04/05/2023 om 16:08 schreef Dennis Chang via IRT.RegDataPolicy:

Dear IRT,

 

We’ve completed review of all public comments and made the updates to the policy language.

Prepared are the redline version and the clean version for your review.

Also prepared is the Public Comment Report Addendum that documents the analysis and responses for the comments.

You will find all these documents posted on the IRT wiki following our normal process. https://community.icann.org/display/RDPIRT/RegDataPolicy+Implementation+Resource+Documents

We’ll go over these in the IRT meeting on 10 May 2023.

-- 

Kind Regards,

Dennis S. Chang

GDD Programs Director

Phone: +1 213 293 7889

Sykpe: dennisSchang

www.icann.org One World – One Internet

 


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