Rec 23 & 24 next steps
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Hello Team, I'd like us to discuss our course of action for implementing Rec 23 and Rec 24. I won't copy the full text of both recs here, but I'll copypasta some of the relevant language: *Rec 23*: "...for the new policy on gTLD registration data, the following requirements MUST apply in relation to URS and UDRP until such time as these are superseded by recommendations from the RPMs PDP WG and/or policies from the EPDP regarding disclosure..." *Rec 24*: "...for the new policy on gTLD registration data, the following requirements MUST apply in relation to the Transfer Policy until such time these are superseded by recommendations that may come out of the Transfer Policy review that is being undertaken by the GNSO Council..." I notice that for Rec 23, the IPT has proposed making changes to the URS and UDRP policies. For rec 24 also I found the updated policy in the docs/drive, but there was no email sent out about it, maybe an oversight? While I do agree that these other policies (URS, UDRP, Transfer Policy) need to be updated, I am not sure that this IRT is the right team to make those changes. Instead, I would suggest that these policies should be updated by the Working Groups mentioned in the recommendations: URS and UDRP modified by the RPM PDP WG, and the Transfer Policy by whatever comes out of the review in progress now with the GNSO Council. Our new gTLD registration data policy should include some language that formalizes the requirements of those recommendations until such time as the policies themselves are updated by those other groups. I look forward to hearing feedback on this suggestion from the IRT and IPT members. -- Sarah Wyld Domains Product Team Tucows +1.416 535 0123 Ext. 1392
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Hello Sarah and Team, It’s good to looks at these two recommendations together as they parallel in intent and implementation. 34 Review Recommendation 23 Analysis<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C2X9kgKb4hKwz2JJr_OiLtmptfKSBaPRRSRPuIccUqc/edit> 20190826 35 Review Recommendation 24 Analysis<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FvGP_m69nO4Pv6NcCONSs1hv6ZTp0o0iDqW8cNcPWso/edit> 20190828 I believe we are in agreement and we’ll confirm with the rest of the team at one of our calls. As you suggests, ICANN org is and will be working with the appropriate groups. IRT’s role here is to see that the implementation being carried out by IPT and ICANN Org is aligned with the recommendation. I don’t expect that the IRT become versed in ALL policies and procedures. This would be too much for any group. IPT is preparing Rec 27 for the IRT and this concept will become clearer when we get there. Thanks again for diligently following up and checking the team drive for new content too. I did note that Rec 23 assignment, while listed on the Task List and Uploaded to the Team Drive, my email had not gone out. You should have received it now but then you were a step ahead of me. Good to have team members looking after me. ☺ Thanks Dennis Chang From: "IRT.RegDataPolicy" <irt.regdatapolicy-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Sarah Wyld <swyld@tucows.com> Organization: Tucows Date: Friday, August 16, 2019 at 6:16 AM To: "irt.regdatapolicy@icann.org" <irt.regdatapolicy@icann.org> Subject: [IRT.RegDataPolicy] Rec 23 & 24 next steps Hello Team, I'd like us to discuss our course of action for implementing Rec 23 and Rec 24. I won't copy the full text of both recs here, but I'll copypasta some of the relevant language: Rec 23: "...for the new policy on gTLD registration data, the following requirements MUST apply in relation to URS and UDRP until such time as these are superseded by recommendations from the RPMs PDP WG and/or policies from the EPDP regarding disclosure..." Rec 24: "...for the new policy on gTLD registration data, the following requirements MUST apply in relation to the Transfer Policy until such time these are superseded by recommendations that may come out of the Transfer Policy review that is being undertaken by the GNSO Council..." I notice that for Rec 23, the IPT has proposed making changes to the URS and UDRP policies. For rec 24 also I found the updated policy in the docs/drive, but there was no email sent out about it, maybe an oversight? While I do agree that these other policies (URS, UDRP, Transfer Policy) need to be updated, I am not sure that this IRT is the right team to make those changes. Instead, I would suggest that these policies should be updated by the Working Groups mentioned in the recommendations: URS and UDRP modified by the RPM PDP WG, and the Transfer Policy by whatever comes out of the review in progress now with the GNSO Council. Our new gTLD registration data policy should include some language that formalizes the requirements of those recommendations until such time as the policies themselves are updated by those other groups. I look forward to hearing feedback on this suggestion from the IRT and IPT members. -- Sarah Wyld Domains Product Team Tucows +1.416 535 0123 Ext. 1392
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Hi Sarah, Thanks for this. I agree, I don’t think that one Consensus Policy has the power to “re-write” another, though I look forward to hearing from Staff on that point and their experience. However, we should discuss on the call how to list out the requirements in the CP without preempting the work of the PDPs already laboring on these changes. Thanks, Beth From: IRT.RegDataPolicy <irt.regdatapolicy-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Sarah Wyld Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 9:18 AM To: irt.regdatapolicy@icann.org Subject: [IRT.RegDataPolicy] Rec 23 & 24 next steps Hello Team, I'd like us to discuss our course of action for implementing Rec 23 and Rec 24. I won't copy the full text of both recs here, but I'll copypasta some of the relevant language: Rec 23: "...for the new policy on gTLD registration data, the following requirements MUST apply in relation to URS and UDRP until such time as these are superseded by recommendations from the RPMs PDP WG and/or policies from the EPDP regarding disclosure..." Rec 24: "...for the new policy on gTLD registration data, the following requirements MUST apply in relation to the Transfer Policy until such time these are superseded by recommendations that may come out of the Transfer Policy review that is being undertaken by the GNSO Council..." I notice that for Rec 23, the IPT has proposed making changes to the URS and UDRP policies. For rec 24 also I found the updated policy in the docs/drive, but there was no email sent out about it, maybe an oversight? While I do agree that these other policies (URS, UDRP, Transfer Policy) need to be updated, I am not sure that this IRT is the right team to make those changes. Instead, I would suggest that these policies should be updated by the Working Groups mentioned in the recommendations: URS and UDRP modified by the RPM PDP WG, and the Transfer Policy by whatever comes out of the review in progress now with the GNSO Council. Our new gTLD registration data policy should include some language that formalizes the requirements of those recommendations until such time as the policies themselves are updated by those other groups. I look forward to hearing feedback on this suggestion from the IRT and IPT members. -- Sarah Wyld Domains Product Team Tucows +1.416 535 0123 Ext. 1392
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Hello All, After talking to the CPH group about this we think it will be most helpful to walk through this question on the call with staff. In the meantime, understanding that the Recommendations do contain some requirements, could Staff provide some draft text that you think would work in this situation? It may be easier than an open ended conversation. If others have ideas, please share! Thanks! Beth From: IRT.RegDataPolicy <irt.regdatapolicy-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Elizabeth Bacon Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2019 8:29 PM To: Sarah Wyld <swyld@tucows.com>; irt.regdatapolicy@icann.org Subject: Re: [IRT.RegDataPolicy] Rec 23 & 24 next steps Hi Sarah, Thanks for this. I agree, I don’t think that one Consensus Policy has the power to “re-write” another, though I look forward to hearing from Staff on that point and their experience. However, we should discuss on the call how to list out the requirements in the CP without preempting the work of the PDPs already laboring on these changes. Thanks, Beth From: IRT.RegDataPolicy <irt.regdatapolicy-bounces@icann.org<mailto:irt.regdatapolicy-bounces@icann.org>> On Behalf Of Sarah Wyld Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 9:18 AM To: irt.regdatapolicy@icann.org<mailto:irt.regdatapolicy@icann.org> Subject: [IRT.RegDataPolicy] Rec 23 & 24 next steps Hello Team, I'd like us to discuss our course of action for implementing Rec 23 and Rec 24. I won't copy the full text of both recs here, but I'll copypasta some of the relevant language: Rec 23: "...for the new policy on gTLD registration data, the following requirements MUST apply in relation to URS and UDRP until such time as these are superseded by recommendations from the RPMs PDP WG and/or policies from the EPDP regarding disclosure..." Rec 24: "...for the new policy on gTLD registration data, the following requirements MUST apply in relation to the Transfer Policy until such time these are superseded by recommendations that may come out of the Transfer Policy review that is being undertaken by the GNSO Council..." I notice that for Rec 23, the IPT has proposed making changes to the URS and UDRP policies. For rec 24 also I found the updated policy in the docs/drive, but there was no email sent out about it, maybe an oversight? While I do agree that these other policies (URS, UDRP, Transfer Policy) need to be updated, I am not sure that this IRT is the right team to make those changes. Instead, I would suggest that these policies should be updated by the Working Groups mentioned in the recommendations: URS and UDRP modified by the RPM PDP WG, and the Transfer Policy by whatever comes out of the review in progress now with the GNSO Council. Our new gTLD registration data policy should include some language that formalizes the requirements of those recommendations until such time as the policies themselves are updated by those other groups. I look forward to hearing feedback on this suggestion from the IRT and IPT members. -- Sarah Wyld Domains Product Team Tucows +1.416 535 0123 Ext. 1392
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Dennis Chang
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Elizabeth Bacon
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Sarah Wyld