Re: [Koreangp] comments (3) RE: C-LGR (2016.07.18.), Q4 and Q5.
Dear Mr. Wang Wei: I am making progress ^-^ and noticed some more errors/changes. ================================================================ Q3 (My previous message RE: MSS --> CCC) ================================================================= Q4. This seems minor too. I notices that CJK compatibility paren was used instead of regular ASCII paren. There were 2 occurrences in one line. I would like to suggest that "）" (CJK compatibility paren) --> ")" (ASCII paren). [ 2 occurrences in one line] 83B5 莵 菟(83DF） 菟(83DF） 莵(83B5)菟(83DF) --> 83B5 莵 菟(83DF) 菟(83DF) 莵(83B5)菟(83DF) ================================================================= Q5: I compared variant groups in C-LGR (2015.04.30.) and vg in C-LGR (2016.07.18.) and noticed some two variant groups (vg) were removed and three new vg are added. I would like to know whether these removals are mistakes or not and whether additions are really intended. 1) [removal] existed in C-LGR (2015.04.30.); now missing in C-LGR (2016.07.18.) 1a) < 2 2 (O 5CAB 岫) (O 5CC0 峀): vg ===>
5CAB 岫 岫(5CAB) 岫(5CAB) 岫(5CAB): indep. char. 5CC0 峀 峀(5CC0) 峀(5CC0) 峀(5CC0): indep. char.
1b) < 3 2 (O 5999 妙) (X 7385 玅) (O 7AD7 竗): vg of size 3 (3 variants) ===>
5999 妙 妙(5999) 妙(5999) 妙(5999)玅(7385): vg of size 2 7385 玅 妙(5999) 玅(7385) 妙(5999)玅(7385): vg of size 2 7AD7 竗 竗(7AD7) 竗(7AD7) 竗(7AD7) : indep. char.
2) [addition] did NOT exist in C-LGR (2015.04.30.); now added to C-LGR (2016.07.18.) 2a) < 7200 爀 爀(7200) 爀(7200) : indep. char. < 8D6B 赫 赫(8D6B) 赫(8D6B) : indep. char. ===>
2 2 (O 7200 爀) (O 8D6B 赫) : a new vg of size 2
2b) < 757A 畺 畺(757A) 畺(757A) : indep. char. < 7586 疆 疆(7586) 疆(7586) : indep. charf. ===>
2 2 (O 757A 畺) (O 7586 疆) : a new vg. of size 2
2C) < 3960 㥠 㥠(3960) 㥠(3960) : indep. char. < 8ADD 諝 谞(8C1E) 諝(8ADD) : a vg. of size 2 < 8ADD 諝 谞(8C1E) 諝(8ADD) : a vg. of size 2 ===>
3 2 (O 3960 㥠) (O 8ADD 諝) (X 8C1E 谞) : a new vg of size 3
* * * Thanks in advance. KIM, K. ------------------------------- On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:04 AM, KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Wang Wei:
I seem to have found some minor errors in your C-LGR (2016.07.18.)
In 9 lines (24 occurrences), MSS need be changed to CCC. One sample line is shown below:
5MSS 峌 峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS) --> 5CCC 峌 峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC)
Thanks in advance.
KIM, K.
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:01 PM, 王伟 <wangwei@cnic.cn> wrote:
Dear Prof. Kim
I checked these chars and confirm that there are some coding error/editorial error in the EXCEL I have re-edited them in the attached document.
Also, I excluded the char of 58B5 which is not in MSR.
So please refer the latest version as attached.
Regards WANG Wei
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Dear Mr. Wang:
I started analyzing your variant groups published on 2016.06.12.
I seem to have found some errors and will appreciate if you would check two issues described below.
==================================================== Q1. The following six variant groups seem to have some errors:
--- 1 cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37) cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37)
--- 2 cvg_0: (5AD4) 嬪(5B2A) cvg_0:嫔(5AD4) 嬪(5B2A)
--- 3 cvg_0:䑃(4443) 朦(6726) OOO (sorted) cvg_0:朦(6726) 䑃(4443) XXX (NOT sorted, minor)
--- 4 cvg_0:击(51FB) (6483) 擊(64CA) cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA) cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA)
--- 5 cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37) cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37)
--- 6 cvg_0:沣(6CA3) (7043) cvg_0:沣(6CA3) 灃(7043)
====================================================== Q2. I wonder if the following information RE: 3103 variant groups is correct. I will appreciate if you would check it.
Among 19738 characters, 3103 of them have non-reflexive variant character(s), including 2214 with 1 variant, 545 with 2 variants, 200 with 3 variants, 89 with 4 variants, 36 with 5 variants, 14 with 6 variants, 4 with 7 variants, 1 with 8 variants.
- Based on your info, there should be 3103 variant groups and 12075 independent char (i.e., char with NO variant).
- However, my initial "rough" analysis of <column G, All Variant Mappings> of Appendix C file seems quite different from your numbers (i.e., 3103 var. groups and 12075 indep. chars):
a) # indep. chars: 11684 (<-- your number is 12075), diff = 391 b) # var. groups: 3518 (<-- your number is 3103), diff = 415
Plz correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks in advance.
Rgds,
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Dear Prof. Kim Thanks for your review which help find out some editorial errors. I noticed that you compared the current table with 2015.04.30, which was already replaced by CGP LGR 20160612 before the ICANN Helsinki meeting. The rational of the repertoire extension was explained in the attached WORD document. To your question Q1, the sequencing of "朦(6726)䑃(4443)" has been changed to "䑃(4443)朦(6726)" To your question Q2, your number is correct. To your question Q3, MSS --> CCC, yes, it is an editorial mistake that replace the "CCC" by "MSS" automatically. To your question Q4, yes, the parentheses has been changed into ASCII format in the attached new version. To your question Q5, those characters went through review process last year and were set as independent chars. After Helsinki meeting, the IP reminds that㩜(3A5C) and墵(58B5) are out of MSR scope, so I also take them away for the time being. Please refer the attached new version of repertoire and variants. Regards WANG Wei -----邮件原件----- 发件人: KIM Kyongsok [mailto:gimgs0@gmail.com] 发送时间: 2016年7月19日 15:47 收件人: 王伟 <wangwei@cnic.cn> 抄送: chinesegp@icann.org; JapaneseGP@icann.org; koreanGP@icann.org; KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0@gmail.com> 主题: Re: comments (3) RE: C-LGR (2016.07.18.), Q4 and Q5. Dear Mr. Wang Wei: I am making progress ^-^ and noticed some more errors/changes. ================================================================ Q3 (My previous message RE: MSS --> CCC) ================================================================= Q4. This seems minor too. I notices that CJK compatibility paren was used instead of regular ASCII paren. There were 2 occurrences in one line. I would like to suggest that "）" (CJK compatibility paren) --> ")" (ASCII paren). [ 2 occurrences in one line] 83B5 莵 菟(83DF） 菟(83DF） 莵(83B5)菟(83DF) --> 83B5 莵 菟(83DF) 菟(83DF) 莵(83B5)菟(83DF) ================================================================= Q5: I compared variant groups in C-LGR (2015.04.30.) and vg in C-LGR (2016.07.18.) and noticed some two variant groups (vg) were removed and three new vg are added. I would like to know whether these removals are mistakes or not and whether additions are really intended. 1) [removal] existed in C-LGR (2015.04.30.); now missing in C-LGR (2016.07.18.) 1a) < 2 2 (O 5CAB 岫) (O 5CC0 峀): vg ===>
5CAB 岫 岫(5CAB) 岫(5CAB) 岫(5CAB): indep. char. 5CC0 峀 峀(5CC0) 峀(5CC0) 峀(5CC0): indep. char.
1b) < 3 2 (O 5999 妙) (X 7385 玅) (O 7AD7 竗): vg of size 3 (3 variants) ===>
5999 妙 妙(5999) 妙(5999) 妙(5999)玅(7385): vg of size 2 7385 玅 妙(5999) 玅(7385) 妙(5999)玅(7385): vg of size 2 7AD7 竗 竗(7AD7) 竗(7AD7) 竗(7AD7) : indep. char.
2) [addition] did NOT exist in C-LGR (2015.04.30.); now added to C-LGR (2016.07.18.) 2a) < 7200 爀 爀(7200) 爀(7200) : indep. char. < 8D6B 赫 赫(8D6B) 赫(8D6B) : indep. char. ===>
2 2 (O 7200 爀) (O 8D6B 赫) : a new vg of size 2
2b) < 757A 畺 畺(757A) 畺(757A) : indep. char. < 7586 疆 疆(7586) 疆(7586) : indep. charf. ===>
2 2 (O 757A 畺) (O 7586 疆) : a new vg. of size 2
2C) < 3960 㥠 㥠(3960) 㥠(3960) : indep. char. < 8ADD 諝 谞(8C1E) 諝(8ADD) : a vg. of size 2 < 8ADD 諝 谞(8C1E) 諝(8ADD) : a vg. of size 2 ===>
3 2 (O 3960 㥠) (O 8ADD 諝) (X 8C1E 谞) : a new vg of size 3
* * * Thanks in advance. KIM, K. ------------------------------- On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:04 AM, KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Wang Wei:
I seem to have found some minor errors in your C-LGR (2016.07.18.)
In 9 lines (24 occurrences), MSS need be changed to CCC. One sample line is shown below:
5MSS 峌 峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS) --> 5CCC 峌 峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC)
Thanks in advance.
KIM, K.
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:01 PM, 王伟 <wangwei@cnic.cn> wrote:
Dear Prof. Kim
I checked these chars and confirm that there are some coding error/editorial error in the EXCEL I have re-edited them in the attached document.
Also, I excluded the char of 58B5 which is not in MSR.
So please refer the latest version as attached.
Regards WANG Wei
-----邮件原件----- 发件人: chinesegp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 KIM Kyongsok 发送时间: 2016年7月17日 22:26 收件人: chinesegp@icann.org 抄送: JapaneseGP@icann.org; koreanGP@icann.org; KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0@gmail.com> 主题: [ChineseGP] comments (1) RE: C-LGR (2016.06.12.)
Dear Mr. Wang:
I started analyzing your variant groups published on 2016.06.12.
I seem to have found some errors and will appreciate if you would check two issues described below.
==================================================== Q1. The following six variant groups seem to have some errors:
--- 1 cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37) cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37)
--- 2 cvg_0: (5AD4) 嬪(5B2A) cvg_0:嫔(5AD4) 嬪(5B2A)
--- 3 cvg_0:䑃(4443) 朦(6726) OOO (sorted) cvg_0:朦(6726) 䑃(4443) XXX (NOT sorted, minor)
--- 4 cvg_0:击(51FB) (6483) 擊(64CA) cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA) cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA)
--- 5 cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37) cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37)
--- 6 cvg_0:沣(6CA3) (7043) cvg_0:沣(6CA3) 灃(7043)
====================================================== Q2. I wonder if the following information RE: 3103 variant groups is correct. I will appreciate if you would check it.
Among 19738 characters, 3103 of them have non-reflexive variant character(s), including 2214 with 1 variant, 545 with 2 variants, 200 with 3 variants, 89 with 4 variants, 36 with 5 variants, 14 with 6 variants, 4 with 7 variants, 1 with 8 variants.
- Based on your info, there should be 3103 variant groups and 12075 independent char (i.e., char with NO variant).
- However, my initial "rough" analysis of <column G, All Variant Mappings> of Appendix C file seems quite different from your numbers (i.e., 3103 var. groups and 12075 indep. chars):
a) # indep. chars: 11684 (<-- your number is 12075), diff = 391 b) # var. groups: 3518 (<-- your number is 3103), diff = 415
Plz correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks in advance.
Rgds,
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