Hello Mike, Yes, I understand it won’t help with the existing/current keys on Keyper which are not exportable. As KMIP allows us to move keys from one HSM to another (different vendor) I thought it would help with vendor lock-ins going forward. “Going forward” is when a different HSM is being selected. Although, it seems like a good number of Keypers are secured before the EoL so I suppose we are good for quite a while. Plenty of time to think what to do. Cheers! Tomofumi From: ksk-rollover <ksk-rollover-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Michael StJohns via ksk-rollover Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 3:57 AM To: ksk-rollover@icann.org Subject: Re: [ksk-rollover] Root Zone KSK Rollover and HSM Update Hi Tomofumi - KMIP is probably not relevant to this problem. The problem I think you're trying to solve here is not one of interface (how to talk to the keys), but of key protection. Mike On 8/2/2023 2:35 AM, Tomofumi Okubo via ksk-rollover wrote: There is not much you can do with the existing keys but still, KMIP is something to consider going forward if one is concerned about vendor lock-ins. Needless to say, like anything else, there is a tradeoff. Cheers! T. On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 11:23 PM Jakob Schlyter via ksk-rollover <ksk-rollover@icann.org<mailto:ksk-rollover@icann.org>> wrote: On 2023-07-31 at 14:53, Frederico A C Neves via ksk-rollover wrote:
From our experience besides admin interfaces, standard APIs for regular operations, generating keys, sign, verify etc... are available (PKCS#11/KMIP) from multiple vendors. But exporting/importing a key, specially with the no-export attribute set, among vendors is not available.
I concur; moving keys not marked as CKA_EXTRACTABLE (at time of generation) is generally not supported (due to FIPS requirements). jakob -- Jakob Schlyter Kirei AB - www.kirei.se<http://www.kirei.se> _______________________________________________ ksk-rollover mailing list ksk-rollover@icann.org<mailto:ksk-rollover@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ksk-rollover _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ ksk-rollover mailing list ksk-rollover@icann.org<mailto:ksk-rollover@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ksk-rollover _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.