[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Voting Director AT Large From: asoto@ibero-americano.org Fatima, as was the error? We received one información tardÃa?Of pate of quién? When we interacted to último moment, and we reached these conclusions? To who we must? Everything becomes to último moment? I contesté immediately after receiving this información. But now we do not have time? Where està 3l error? Greetings Alberto Grove Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Fatima Cambronero Sent: Domingo, 07 of November of 2010 10:38 p.m. He stops: Alexander Pisanty CC: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Voting Director AT Large Alexander, all, I am in agreement with vos in the point in which you say that we are not in conditions for taking one decisión by at this moment not to have discussed the sufficient east subject, from LACRALO. Today it overcomes the term to express to us. We already lost our opportunity. Agreement with Sylvia in which now we must focus in the three candidates that they were chosen by the Work group. Those that we participated in the different lists from discusión of ICANN and we were following all this process, always we had to disposición all información and already sabÃamos that was few dÃas those that habÃa stops to express to us. (Even, and corrÃjanme if I am mistaken, this seems to me that habló in a teleconferencing). Ademà s envió a mail to this list where very few people expressed themselves. Información est� available for all, the debates està n available to be initiated by who has interés in doing it, to thespace we have. Responsibility of lÃÂderes is not sólo, is responsibility of all those that we participated in LACRALO to involve and to participate to us. If it does not have interés, to the people cannot be forced.... Surely this diligentes experience is going to serve all to us to be mà s (with the times) in próximas situations. Warm greetings, Fà tima Cambronero The 7 of November of 2010 21:19, Alexander Pisanty <apisan@servidor.unam.mx>escribió:
Adrià n, > > I do not believe that we have discussed sufficient the subject like taking one > decisión at this moment. > > Nevertheless if fuébranches to take part seems to methat not habrÃÂa reasons > sufficient to only support to Avri. > > Jean-Jacques Subrenat is an individual extremely experiencedwhose > conduct is predictable civil, rational and respectful. Not està bound > to the world of the businesses of dominion names and its sensitivity to no > commercial so is elevated as the one of Avri or mà s. > > His mérites like director està n widely proven: sense > estratégico, order in participación, listens divergent positions, > different sÃÂntesis of positions, clarity of foreseeable consequences in > implementación of the taken decisions, relations with múltiples > sectors, capacity of ejecución, and others. > > I have worked close by with both in diverse conditions and stages, in >! work groups inside and ICANN (with Avri in subjects of the NCUC > and mainly in IGF MAG, and with Jean-Jacques in ccNSO ReviewWorking > Group) reason why I consider to be in posición to emit thisopinión like ex--post-facto >. > > I do not believe that "sensitivity to representación" is a sufficient criterion > for one posición in the Directive Council of ICANN. The capacity of > to operate of reliable way in organización and to contribute to his > evolución is as much or important mà s. > > Digo the previous thing without resigning to my already expressed reserve in the sense of > that is not hours éstas of the quarter for the twelve to reinventar > decisions. If we have not had interés or the responsibility or > knowledge to debate and to decide something in the long timethat takes > opened decisión, by ignorance or any other, nonencounter > originating to remove the things to the steam with base in apair from opinions. > > > Mà s is applied to the phrase "à well©sa is the fault, à cuà l is the excuse" > > > Andrés, you have left to a responsibility importantÃÂsima: a judgment rà I req! uest, > quizà s based on consultations aún mà s rà you request, to decide if this follows > opened and you highly provide a frame with discusión and decision making > participativas, or to declare the dead subject and to stimulate that in > following we have información sufficient and an active debate with > anticipación to the decision making. Mà s proportional leadership to mà s > participación of the community, induciéndola if it does not precede it. > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC ! Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * P! articipa tes in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. > > > On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Adrian Carballo wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 21:03:27 -0300 > > From: Adrian Carballo <ainfodata@gmail.com> > > To: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Andrés Piazza" <andrespiazza@gmail.com> > > Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Voting Director AT Large > > > > Dear LACRALO friends, > > > > thanks AndrÃÂés for the email and the reminder of ours > involvement > > in this process. > > > > Both candidates is very valuable people in ICANN, both have done > > I contribute excellent. > > > > This time I believe that we must support to Avri Doria bythe following ones > > reasons: > > > > - Avri has one active participaciÃÂón in the Non Commercial Constituency > > from months before it let be to chair of the GNSO. Them memory that > > > deals ! with one contituency that can well represent the interests of > ours > > THIN, in fact if I am not mistaken some in those who participate in this > list > > is members tambiÃÂèn of the NCUC, fact that single sum positive actions. > > > > - Avri is tambiÃÂén chair of the Non Commercial Stakeholder Group in > ICANN, > > new instituciÃÂòn that I am created after reestructuraciÃÂón of the GNSO > does > > even of aÃÂños. > > > > - Avri is an excellent educational professional and of recognized trajectory > > world-wide. > > > > In the individual I can say to them that it has supportedfrom the beginnings > > > "School of the South of Gobernanza de Internet" from principle of the 2007 > even > > that we could make the First "School of the South of Gobernanza of > Internet " > > in March 2009 in Bs. As.y soon in March of this aÃÂño inSan Pablo, > Brazil. > > ! > Since then Avri to collaborated and participated of act! ive way in this > > project that stops this case I enunciate it as a example in relaciÃÂòn a > > > excellent predisposiciÃÂòn that has demonstrated to workin favor of > ours > > RegiÃÂòn and of inclusiÃÂòn of users jÃÂóvenes in the ICANN process and > of > > IGF. > > > > Reciban all a warm greeting, > > Adriàn > > > > > > > > 2010/11/5 AndrÃÂés Piazza <andrespiazza@gmail.com> > > > > > (english below) > > > > > > Considered members of LACRALO, > > > > > > In the pasts dÃÂÃÂas, lÃÂÃÂderes regional of LACRALO wehave received > > > requests on the part of 2 of the 19 candidates, soliciing the support of > > > LACRALO to be incluÃÂÃÂdos in ÃÂúltima ready of candidates for > > > posiciÃÂón > > > of Voting Director on the part of AT Large. > > > >! > > As it were mentioned in a mail passed to the list, anyone of the 19 > > > candidates who not estÃÂà n in the final list of candidates for > posiciÃÂón, > > > can be added to the same one by one peticiÃÂón from 3 Thin ones, so > > > like > > > can be observed in the Space for Director of AT Large: > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/DirCan/At-Large+Director+Candidate+2010+... > > > > > > Both candidates who ask for support is Jeanââ'¬ Jacques Subrenat and > Avri > > > Doria. > > > > > > Nobody decisiÃÂón that we pruned to take deberÃÂÃÂa tobe previous to the 7 of > November, > > > on: > > > > > > - Peticionar by some of the 19 candidates. > > > - not to peticionar. > > > > > > Warm Greetings, > > > > > > AndrÃÂés Piazza - Dev Anand > > > Pr! esident and Secretary of LACRALO > > > > > > > >! ; > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > In the past days, regional LACRALO leaders have received requests from > two > > > of the 19 candidates, asking for LACRALOââ'‰"¢s support to include them in > the > > > final slate of candidates for the AT-Large Director position. > > > > > > Ace mentioned in a previous email to the list, any one of the 19 > candidates > > > not on the final slate of candidates for the AT-Large Directorââ'‰"¢s > position > > > final dog be added to the slate of candidates by to petition from 3 > Thin. > > > The AT Large Director Workspace AT > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/DirCan/At-Large+Director+Candidate+2010+... > > > > > > The two candidates asking for LACRALO support plows Jeanââ'¬ Jacques > Subrenat and > > > Avri Doria. > > > > > > We have to decides by Nov! ember 7 on to whether LACRALO: > > > > > > - should petition for any of the 19 candidates. > > > - not petition AT all > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > AndrÃÂés Piazza - Dev Anand > > > LACRALO Chair and Secretariat > > > > > > -- > > > * AndrÃÂés Piazza * > > > www.andrespiazza.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > ! lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists! .icann.o rg/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org >
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