Hi Alberto

I would like to insert some factual historical information into this discussion.

The concern when developing the RoP was to ensure that a minority of the organisation could not  agree to motions without a majority present and voting. Hence, the rule for a virtual assembly is that every ALS is considered to be present as each is issued voting credentials. And so a motion cannot be carried on a minority voting on a motion if the majority abstains or don't vote.

I don't know when the change was made, but it is counter to the established and documented process. I believe if such a fundamental change were to be made to the established voting process, it should have been discussed and voted upon by the membership. It may be that the Big Pulse system was wrongly programmed to calculate, but it certainly should have been double checked!

Sincerely

Jacqueline A. Morris

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On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:21 PM, <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:

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 Subject: The Numbers are Plain Wrong.
 From: asoto@ibero-americano.org

 Lord Samuels, a continuation transcribe Rule 12.2 of the Common Rules
 LACRALO Procedure: In accordance with the provisions of the
 Rules 6.2 and 16, decisions shall be by a majority of decidirn
 Large Structures present and voting; for the purposes of these Rules,
 the expression Large Structures present vote will refer the
 Large Structures casting an affirmative or negative vote. At
 Large Structures refrain from voting if they considerarcomo
 they would not have voted.


 In English: 12.2 Subject to the Provisions of Rules 6.2 and 16, decisions
 Shall be taken by a majority of the At Large Structures present and voting;
 for the purpose of the present Rules, the expression &quot;At Large Structures
 present and voting &quot;shall mean At Large Structures casting an affirmative or
 negative vote.At Large Structures abstaining from voting Shall Be Regarded
 Having Voted as not.


 As see, you have to count the number of ALS present, it is,
 they have cast their vote, whatever its option. We understand that
 Large structures who voted for the abstention option, have issued
 one vote, which even can be considered negative. Positive votes are
 those who go sb candidate.


 The rule saying abstaining, we understand that concern
 Scope those structures that have not No single act. In
 simple terms did not vote for any option.


 The Big Push system is automatic, no intervention of any person.
 The percentage taken are correct.


 Years ago that the system works the same way, and has never been
 observed or rejected.


 Made the clarification, I ask again please not to issue
 grievances and insults on the list.


 If you observe or perform a critical, please, just doing hgalo
 s reference to the fact in citing the article and reference standard.


 Cheers


 Alberto Soto


















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