See also ICANN's letter to ACTO https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/chalaby-to-mendoza-03dec18-en.pdf dated December 3 2018.

Dev Anand


On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 1:29 PM Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul@gutierrez.se> wrote:

Dear Olivier,


This is really an interesting point and it is new to me. Maybe now that Amazon.com has diversified into

.amazonwebservices

.wholefoods

.alexa

.(face-)rekognition

and is moving its headquarters closer to the Pentagon, they are less intersted in the plain .amazon.................

But in any case, the letter speaks of a great set of new PICs. I´m on the road and have not been able to see them. Once we know and discuss the PICs, and who negotiated them, and how much money they inlcude (those are the first PIC that carry an explicit prive tag, apparently)  and who blessed them, we all will be much wiser. Let´s see if ALAC gets to form its own opinion on theses kindler PICs.

So much for a global equal bottom-up multi-stakeholder model for PICs..............

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Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
+506 8837 7176
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COSTA RICA



El 2018-12-03 11:06, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond escribió:

Dear Carlos,

unfortunately, there is a deep deep deep error that stems at the very root of the "Amazon" problem. ICANN keeps on referring to "Amazon" and "Amazon Corporation" - and this is either a serious oversight from the drafter of the letter, or is something else which I shall not comment on - but you decide.

The real name for "Amazon" is Amazon.com Inc.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_(company)
Stock AMZN - https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/amzn

Had they stuck to their original name, they already had their full name under .com.
But sometimes in 2011-2012 they changed their trading name to "Amazon" as they started releasing branded products. I am surprised nobody picked on that. In my view, the whole saga between the two (three?) sides is conducted in a very poor way and could have been resolved some time ago. <sigh>
Kindest regards,

Olivier

On 03/12/2018 12:20, Carlos Raul Gutierrez wrote:
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Subject:Re:  CEO Letter to the C+GAC explaining dot
	AMAzon...
Desde:Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul@gutierrez.se>


Thank you Vanda,
after reading this I have the feeling I know less than before ........... yes, but no, but yes?
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Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
carlosraul@gutierrez.se
+506 8837 7176
Aparatado 1571-1000
COSTA RICA

On 2018-12-02 12:39, Vanda Scartezini wrote:

https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/marby-to-ismail-28nov18-en.pdf

Dear colleagues

Since this is relevant to our region I believe we shall be aware and informed about all details. This document reflects the movements and explain step by step the negotiation during the last 12 months.
Best regards

Happy Hanukkah to all this celebration is relevant.

Vanda Scartezini
Polo Consultores Associados
Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004
01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253
Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464
Sorry for any typos.





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