Outcome of LACRALO Teleconference -Thursday, 15 September 21:00 UTC
Dear All, Regrettably, the LACRALO Teleconference call on Thursday September 15 2011 had only 4 persons attending the call: Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Cintra Sooknanan, Sylvia Herlin Leite and Aislan Vargas with apologies received from Sergio Salinas Porto, Natalia Enciso, Alberto Soto and Carlos Vera. The call was adjourned at 21:30 UTC. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Marilyn Vernon <staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
The next LACRALO Teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, 15 September at 21:00 UTC.
You may check your local time at: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=LACRALO+Montlhy+Tel econference+%28September+2011%29&iso=20110915T21
The agenda (to be updated) and participation details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/CwKpAQ
If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>.
-- Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Gisella Gruber-White, Seth Greene, Marilyn Vernon, Matt Ashtiani ICANN At-Large Staff
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Dear All, Apologies were also received from Fátima Cambronero and José Arce Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Regrettably, the LACRALO Teleconference call on Thursday September 15 2011 had only 4 persons attending the call: Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Cintra Sooknanan, Sylvia Herlin Leite and Aislan Vargas with apologies received from Sergio Salinas Porto, Natalia Enciso, Alberto Soto and Carlos Vera.
The call was adjourned at 21:30 UTC.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Marilyn Vernon <staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
The next LACRALO Teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, 15 September at 21:00 UTC.
You may check your local time at: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=LACRALO+Montlhy+Tel econference+%28September+2011%29&iso=20110915T21
The agenda (to be updated) and participation details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/CwKpAQ
If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>.
-- Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Gisella Gruber-White, Seth Greene, Marilyn Vernon, Matt Ashtiani ICANN At-Large Staff
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Hi: How about our representatives? I can accept a sudden event wich make unavailable somebody at the teleconference call, BUT there are many of ALS leaders who usually mention the word apology always. The LACRALO call is since the begining the third thursday of every month, is comunicated and re comunicated with enough time, I can not understand, so, what happen, why our representatives are repetitives in his/her absenses. They expressed her/his commitment but, however are absent in the call. In my country this attitude is called irresponsability and lack of compromise. There are others, even in the call, who are absents because know nothing about we talk. And finally there are others who directly no send her/his apologies. We need change urgently this situation. I guess. What do you think about, please be honest and nothing of apologies, I particularly tired of this attitudes Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:54:20 +0100 From: devtee@gmail.com To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outcome of LACRALO Teleconference -Thursday, 15 September 21:00 UTC
Dear All,
Apologies were also received from Fátima Cambronero and José Arce
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Regrettably, the LACRALO Teleconference call on Thursday September 15 2011 had only 4 persons attending the call: Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Cintra Sooknanan, Sylvia Herlin Leite and Aislan Vargas with apologies received from Sergio Salinas Porto, Natalia Enciso, Alberto Soto and Carlos Vera.
The call was adjourned at 21:30 UTC.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Marilyn Vernon <staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
The next LACRALO Teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, 15 September at 21:00 UTC.
You may check your local time at: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=LACRALO+Montlhy+Tel econference+%28September+2011%29&iso=20110915T21
The agenda (to be updated) and participation details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/CwKpAQ
If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>.
-- Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Gisella Gruber-White, Seth Greene, Marilyn Vernon, Matt Ashtiani ICANN At-Large Staff
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Dear all : (Spanish below - Español debajo ) Regarding me, I was very sick the last days and I still have a lot of symptoms, so I want to apologize for not had been there. Regarding the comments of Dev, Carlos, Fatima and Jose, I think they have reason, but they also have to propose something to change urgently this situation. All criticism must be accompanied with a proposal. I partially agree with Jose and Carlos Vera that we discuss a lot of time procedural’s things, but they are necessary because with the next changes to the bylaws we will improve what we are criticizing. And if someone of the region thinks that the agenda is not interested should propose their own topics to be include in the agenda, as Fatima said, because any ALS can add different issues. Also I want to note that all agendas have policies issues (In public comments and others). Member of the region can add topics even in the beginning or in the first minutes of every call. I do believe the change begins in each of us. So I as a president of LACRALO I want to called upon to work on the topics you care about and share them with the community, not only in calls, also as working groups. Work as a team means share and ask for help. Looking forward work with all of you to achieve the goals of LACRALO. Jose Arce.- ----------------------------- Estimados: Respeto a mí, pido las disculpas necesarias, no pude participar por que no he estado muy bien de salud y aun tengo muchos síntomas que me impiden participar activamente no solo de estos temas sino de otros de mi vida particular. Respecto los comentarios de Dev, Carlos, José y Fátima creo que tiene razón, pero deben, a su ves proponer algo para cambiar lo antes posible esta situación. Toda crítica debe ir acompañada por una propuesta de mejora. Estoy parcialmente de acuerdo con José y Carlos Vera que se discute muchas cuestiones procedimentales, pero son necesarias porque las modificaciones a los estatutos van a permitir mejorar lo que criticamos. Si alguien de la región piensa que la agenda no es interesante debe proponer sus propios temas para ser incluidos en la agenda, como lo menciona Fátima, porque todas las ALS pueden sumar sus temas, incluso se pueden sumar temas en los primeros minutos de todas las llamadas mensuales. Y quiero hacer notar que todas las agendas tienen temas de políticas (algunas en comentario publico y otras no) Realmente creo que el cambio empieza por cada uno de nosotros. Como presidente de LACRALO los invito a trabajar en los temas que a ustedes les interesa y que los compartan con los demás miembros de la región, no solo en las llamadas mensuales, sino también como grupos de trabajo. Trabajar como equipo significa compartir y solicitar ayuda. A la espera de trabajar con todos ustedes para lograr juntos los objetivos de LACRALO. Jose Arce 2011/9/16 carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com>
Hi: How about our representatives? I can accept a sudden event wich make unavailable somebody at the teleconference call, BUT there are many of ALS leaders who usually mention the word apology always. The LACRALO call is since the begining the third thursday of every month, is comunicated and re comunicated with enough time, I can not understand, so, what happen, why our representatives are repetitives in his/her absenses. They expressed her/his commitment but, however are absent in the call. In my country this attitude is called irresponsability and lack of compromise. There are others, even in the call, who are absents because know nothing about we talk. And finally there are others who directly no send her/his apologies. We need change urgently this situation. I guess. What do you think about, please be honest and nothing of apologies, I particularly tired of this attitudes
Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:54:20 +0100 From: devtee@gmail.com To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outcome of LACRALO Teleconference -Thursday, 15 September 21:00 UTC
Dear All,
Apologies were also received from Fátima Cambronero and José Arce
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Regrettably, the LACRALO Teleconference call on Thursday September 15 2011 had only 4 persons attending the call: Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Cintra Sooknanan, Sylvia Herlin Leite and Aislan Vargas with apologies received from Sergio Salinas Porto, Natalia Enciso, Alberto Soto and Carlos Vera.
The call was adjourned at 21:30 UTC.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Marilyn Vernon < staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
The next LACRALO Teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, 15 September at 21:00 UTC.
You may check your local time at:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=LACRALO+Montlhy+Tel
econference+%28September+2011%29&iso=20110915T21
The agenda (to be updated) and participation details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/CwKpAQ
If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>.
-- Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Gisella Gruber-White, Seth Greene, Marilyn Vernon, Matt Ashtiani ICANN At-Large Staff
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-- Ab. Arce, Jose Francisco + 54 9 351 6788920
Es verdad, tienen razón Fátima y José en cuanto a que mi crítica no contenía una propuesta y aquí la hago. La propuesta es que las personas que constituyen ALSs fantasmas con la intención de generar votos y controlar posiciones o que lo hacen de hecho controlando votos de otras ALSs dejen de hacerlo y dejen de trabajar para su beneficio personal y lo hagan para el colectivo. Está bien tener aspiraciones y están bien y son válidas las alianzas, lo que no está bien es buscar la vuelta a los estatutos para controlar posiciones y negociar los porcentajes de votos para lograr uno u otro cambio y muchísimo menos amenazar con la división de la institución si no se satisfacen ciertas demandas. En cierto que se está tratando de cambiar los estatutos, pero esto tiene un año o mas y no se avanza nada por las razones que expuse anteriormente. Quienes estuvieron en esa reunión en Singapur saben a lo que me refiero y no expreso lo que sucedió porque prefiero olvidarlo. Tres horas desperdiciadas en las que no se llegó a nada. Y ese malestar lo expresé ahí para que quedara clara mi posición. Se debe rescatar el trabajo de Dev que ha sido excelente y el de Andrés Piazza en su momento. En cuanto a José, considero que es una excelente persona, capacitada para ejercer el cargo y que apenas comienza en el cargo y quien hereda este problema que espero se pueda resolver. José Ovidio Salgueiro salgueiro.jo@gmail.com -----Mensaje original----- De: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de José Francisco Arce Enviado el: viernes, 16 de septiembre de 2011 10:39 a.m. Para: carlos dionisio aguirre CC: LACRALO Español; lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] Outcome of LACRALO Teleconference -Thursday, 15 September 21:00 UTC Dear all : (Spanish below - Español debajo ) Regarding me, I was very sick the last days and I still have a lot of symptoms, so I want to apologize for not had been there. Regarding the comments of Dev, Carlos, Fatima and Jose, I think they have reason, but they also have to propose something to change urgently this situation. All criticism must be accompanied with a proposal. I partially agree with Jose and Carlos Vera that we discuss a lot of time procedurals things, but they are necessary because with the next changes to the bylaws we will improve what we are criticizing. And if someone of the region thinks that the agenda is not interested should propose their own topics to be include in the agenda, as Fatima said, because any ALS can add different issues. Also I want to note that all agendas have policies issues (In public comments and others). Member of the region can add topics even in the beginning or in the first minutes of every call. I do believe the change begins in each of us. So I as a president of LACRALO I want to called upon to work on the topics you care about and share them with the community, not only in calls, also as working groups. Work as a team means share and ask for help. Looking forward work with all of you to achieve the goals of LACRALO. Jose Arce.- ----------------------------- Estimados: Respeto a mí, pido las disculpas necesarias, no pude participar por que no he estado muy bien de salud y aun tengo muchos síntomas que me impiden participar activamente no solo de estos temas sino de otros de mi vida particular. Respecto los comentarios de Dev, Carlos, José y Fátima creo que tiene razón, pero deben, a su ves proponer algo para cambiar lo antes posible esta situación. Toda crítica debe ir acompañada por una propuesta de mejora. Estoy parcialmente de acuerdo con José y Carlos Vera que se discute muchas cuestiones procedimentales, pero son necesarias porque las modificaciones a los estatutos van a permitir mejorar lo que criticamos. Si alguien de la región piensa que la agenda no es interesante debe proponer sus propios temas para ser incluidos en la agenda, como lo menciona Fátima, porque todas las ALS pueden sumar sus temas, incluso se pueden sumar temas en los primeros minutos de todas las llamadas mensuales. Y quiero hacer notar que todas las agendas tienen temas de políticas (algunas en comentario publico y otras no) Realmente creo que el cambio empieza por cada uno de nosotros. Como presidente de LACRALO los invito a trabajar en los temas que a ustedes les interesa y que los compartan con los demás miembros de la región, no solo en las llamadas mensuales, sino también como grupos de trabajo. Trabajar como equipo significa compartir y solicitar ayuda. A la espera de trabajar con todos ustedes para lograr juntos los objetivos de LACRALO. Jose Arce 2011/9/16 carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com>
Hi: How about our representatives? I can accept a sudden event wich make unavailable somebody at the teleconference call, BUT there are many of ALS leaders who usually mention the word apology always. The LACRALO call is since the begining the third thursday of every month, is comunicated and
re
comunicated with enough time, I can not understand, so, what happen, why our representatives are repetitives in his/her absenses. They expressed her/his commitment but, however are absent in the call. In my country this attitude is called irresponsability and lack of compromise. There are others, even in the call, who are absents because know nothing about we talk. And finally there are others who directly no send her/his apologies. We need change urgently this situation. I guess. What do you think about, please be honest and nothing of apologies, I particularly tired of this attitudes
Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:54:20 +0100 From: devtee@gmail.com To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outcome of LACRALO Teleconference -Thursday, 15 September 21:00 UTC
Dear All,
Apologies were also received from Fátima Cambronero and José Arce
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Regrettably, the LACRALO Teleconference call on Thursday September 15 2011 had only 4 persons attending the call: Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Cintra Sooknanan, Sylvia Herlin Leite and Aislan Vargas with apologies received from Sergio Salinas Porto, Natalia Enciso, Alberto Soto and Carlos Vera.
The call was adjourned at 21:30 UTC.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Marilyn Vernon < staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
The next LACRALO Teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, 15 September at 21:00 UTC.
You may check your local time at:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=LACRALO+Montlhy+Tel
econference+%28September+2011%29&iso=20110915T21
The agenda (to be updated) and participation details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/CwKpAQ
If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>.
-- Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Gisella Gruber-White, Seth Greene, Marilyn Vernon, Matt Ashtiani ICANN At-Large Staff
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I must be honest that generally when I see these kindof threads running on the Lacralo list, I ignore them. Not because I do not think it is an important issue but frankly because I feel it is a waste of my time to respond and it is not the reason I am involved in Lacralo. On this occasion though, I feel that I have to agree with Jose Ovidio, the politics of LACRALO is definitely malignant and indeed a turn off. I appreciate that at times it is extremely difficult to be contacted and I myself apologise for not being as active for the past 2.5 months while I was abroad. But barring such instances we must appreciate the time that volunteers put into attending calls and it is outright disrespectful for others not even to care to attend meetings. It is not for anyone on the list to police and beg others to attend, similarly it is inappropriate for us to discuss the importance of sending something as simple as an apology for non-attendance. We are adults in a professional association and these topics are a waste of valuable time, resources and brain space. I truly value, respect and enjoy discussing different points of view on issues pertinent to ICANN and Internet Governance. So please let us leave the politics to the politicians and revert to the core principles of Lacralo! Best Cintra Sooknanan 2011/9/17 José Ovidio Salgueiro <salgueiro.jo@gmail.com>
Es verdad, tienen razón Fátima y José en cuanto a que mi crítica no contenía una propuesta y aquí la hago.
La propuesta es que las personas que constituyen ALSs fantasmas con la intención de generar votos y controlar posiciones o que lo hacen de hecho controlando votos de otras ALSs dejen de hacerlo y dejen de trabajar para su beneficio personal y lo hagan para el colectivo.
Está bien tener aspiraciones y están bien y son válidas las alianzas, lo que no está bien es buscar la vuelta a los estatutos para controlar posiciones y negociar los porcentajes de votos para lograr uno u otro cambio y muchísimo menos amenazar con la división de la institución si no se satisfacen ciertas demandas.
En cierto que se está tratando de cambiar los estatutos, pero esto tiene un año o mas y no se avanza nada por las razones que expuse anteriormente. Quienes estuvieron en esa reunión en Singapur saben a lo que me refiero y no expreso lo que sucedió porque prefiero olvidarlo. Tres horas desperdiciadas en las que no se llegó a nada. Y ese malestar lo expresé ahí para que quedara clara mi posición.
Se debe rescatar el trabajo de Dev que ha sido excelente y el de Andrés Piazza en su momento. En cuanto a José, considero que es una excelente persona, capacitada para ejercer el cargo y que apenas comienza en el cargo y quien hereda este problema que espero se pueda resolver.
José Ovidio Salgueiro salgueiro.jo@gmail.com
-----Mensaje original----- De: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de José Francisco Arce Enviado el: viernes, 16 de septiembre de 2011 10:39 a.m. Para: carlos dionisio aguirre CC: LACRALO Español; lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] Outcome of LACRALO Teleconference -Thursday, 15 September 21:00 UTC
Dear all : (Spanish below - Español debajo )
Regarding me, I was very sick the last days and I still have a lot of symptoms, so I want to apologize for not had been there.
Regarding the comments of Dev, Carlos, Fatima and Jose, I think they have reason, but they also have to propose something to change urgently this situation. All criticism must be accompanied with a proposal.
I partially agree with Jose and Carlos Vera that we discuss a lot of time procedural’s things, but they are necessary because with the next changes to the bylaws we will improve what we are criticizing.
And if someone of the region thinks that the agenda is not interested should propose their own topics to be include in the agenda, as Fatima said, because any ALS can add different issues. Also I want to note that all agendas have policies issues (In public comments and others). Member of the region can add topics even in the beginning or in the first minutes of every call.
I do believe the change begins in each of us. So I as a president of LACRALO I want to called upon to work on the topics you care about and share them with the community, not only in calls, also as working groups. Work as a team means share and ask for help.
Looking forward work with all of you to achieve the goals of LACRALO.
Jose Arce.-
-----------------------------
Estimados:
Respeto a mí, pido las disculpas necesarias, no pude participar por que no he estado muy bien de salud y aun tengo muchos síntomas que me impiden participar activamente no solo de estos temas sino de otros de mi vida particular.
Respecto los comentarios de Dev, Carlos, José y Fátima creo que tiene razón, pero deben, a su ves proponer algo para cambiar lo antes posible esta situación. Toda crítica debe ir acompañada por una propuesta de mejora.
Estoy parcialmente de acuerdo con José y Carlos Vera que se discute muchas cuestiones procedimentales, pero son necesarias porque las modificaciones a los estatutos van a permitir mejorar lo que criticamos.
Si alguien de la región piensa que la agenda no es interesante debe proponer sus propios temas para ser incluidos en la agenda, como lo menciona Fátima, porque todas las ALS pueden sumar sus temas, incluso se pueden sumar temas en los primeros minutos de todas las llamadas mensuales. Y quiero hacer notar que todas las agendas tienen temas de políticas (algunas en comentario publico y otras no)
Realmente creo que el cambio empieza por cada uno de nosotros. Como presidente de LACRALO los invito a trabajar en los temas que a ustedes les interesa y que los compartan con los demás miembros de la región, no solo en las llamadas mensuales, sino también como grupos de trabajo. Trabajar como equipo significa compartir y solicitar ayuda.
A la espera de trabajar con todos ustedes para lograr juntos los objetivos de LACRALO.
Jose Arce
2011/9/16 carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com>
Hi: How about our representatives? I can accept a sudden event wich make unavailable somebody at the teleconference call, BUT there are many of
ALS
leaders who usually mention the word apology always. The LACRALO call is since the begining the third thursday of every month, is comunicated and re comunicated with enough time, I can not understand, so, what happen, why our representatives are repetitives in his/her absenses. They expressed her/his commitment but, however are absent in the call. In my country this attitude is called irresponsability and lack of compromise. There are others, even in the call, who are absents because know nothing about we talk. And finally there are others who directly no send her/his apologies. We need change urgently this situation. I guess. What do you think about, please be honest and nothing of apologies, I particularly tired of this attitudes
Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:54:20 +0100 From: devtee@gmail.com To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outcome of LACRALO Teleconference -Thursday, 15 September 21:00 UTC
Dear All,
Apologies were also received from Fátima Cambronero and José Arce
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Regrettably, the LACRALO Teleconference call on Thursday September 15 2011 had only 4 persons attending the call: Dev Anand Teelucksingh, Cintra Sooknanan, Sylvia Herlin Leite and Aislan Vargas with apologies received from Sergio Salinas Porto, Natalia Enciso, Alberto Soto and Carlos Vera.
The call was adjourned at 21:30 UTC.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Marilyn Vernon < staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
The next LACRALO Teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, 15 September at 21:00 UTC.
You may check your local time at:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=LACRALO+Montlhy+Tel
econference+%28September+2011%29&iso=20110915T21
The agenda (to be updated) and participation details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/CwKpAQ
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participants (5)
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carlos dionisio aguirre -
Cintra Sooknanan -
Dev Anand Teelucksingh -
José Francisco Arce -
José Ovidio Salgueiro