[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Your response to member TTCS - Trinidad and Tobago - Dev Anand Teelucksingh From: asoto@ibero-americano.org Lord Carlton, Humberto contestun only received strong offense. The comment period cerrel October 8 at 2300 UTC. Cheers Alberto Soto -----Original Message----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of carlton.samuels@gmail.com Posted on: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 3:56 pm To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] His response to member TTCS - Trinidad and Tobago - Dev Anand Teelucksingh [[Translated text (en -> en) -]] Subject: Your response to member TTCS - Trinidad and Tobago - Dev Anand Teelucksingh From: carlton.samuels@gmail.com Humberto: Dev hope will respond in due course, but I'm very worried that rather than admit error and change, which has doubled down on Asmismo methods to break free of the responsibility for this debacle last LACRALO. Show https://community.icann.org/x/C5lYAw In another context, purely on leadership style, that reminds me Pinochet's approach to leadership, a style that will family. First, it is manifestly corrupt when you choose to validate its action privileged and linked to the response of the staff jurdico ICANN. They will not get a "opinin jurdica" giving by. Themselves They declare that they are not competent to answer the question to them. Without access to cuestin [s] is set to ICANN staff jurdico, mud evidence of four (4) movements estposando supposedly to solve my move tells me that probably as He confused as you put into the circulation in this list. First, you can not offer new proposals for four brands as amendments to one. That is corruption under color of ignorance and clear evidence of violence against the Rules of Procedure LACRALO, the rules of order for democratic procedures, razny the democratic governance. Secondly, this: "If censorship mocin is reviewed, it can be seen that request that the President '* is not directed to use pidindole sb power inherent in his office or specifically gives him the rules * procedure 'but ask' * That the General Assembly demonstrate its lack of confidence in the leadership ballot LACRALO and this mocin * '". This conception is not only wrong. And who are here exhibicin It seems to be the notion of ignorance as a virtue. Here we go nuevo.Para sernecesario you do this mental change thinking about the physical world to the virtual world think. I easily ascomo accept the case of working of policies, some of we are better at this than others. Confo they are able to follow. The first thing that must be understood and accepted is that when a meeting LACRALO, virtual or face to face, it is in session, there is a President officer. A meeting LACRALO ARE session when the Secretariat notified. Is meeting was a special meeting and I hate the monthly teleconference appointment. It was a general meeting. Asking the vote of all members and the issuance of credentials ALL members is your indication that a general meeting of LACRALO ARE session. In this case, the big difference is that it is not face to face as, for example, who are Costa Rica. It is a general assembly virtual. Now let's identify the presiding officer in the General Assembly virtual. Think back now for a little in the process that the general face expensive Costa Rica.Esperamos mounting vendrde aquen light on. Remember the all process. JosArce was the presiding officer. T you can literally see it in action. It was a legal duty allejecutando LACRALO President, what you like to refer to as "the President. "Those duties are defined in the Rule of Procedure. Change your mind now to virtual general assembly. That assembly is convened by the Secretariat. He was called to decide a motion as in front by the Secretariat. Once the set is called and although it can not be "See" l, there is a presiding officer in the chair. Nevertheless that officer It is easily identified. It's the person who asked the question in the motion that was the basis for calling the meeting. That is, the cuestin that we are It supposed to answer for the vote. Back to Personal message announcing the vote. You darcuenta of than Alberto Soto movement cuestin levantel and put in the ballot. Qu is this a coincidence!As it happens, one of Alberto Soto volvitbNL> as President of LACRALO ago sb tiempo.Dado the term has not expired and this assembly will not informde Otherwise, it is reasonable to assume that same Alberto Soto remains President of LACARLO. Under the Rule of Procedure, that person, one Alberto Soto, YOU SPECIFIC has rights. He is the presiding officer in this virtual general assembly. On top of their legal obligations as president, l have the duty of care. One this duty is to take care of managing the meeting of a democratic society means for democrticos organization. You mean the UN Rules of Procedure, but it does not seem that WHO fully appreciate its important substance, its meaning in the democratic context. Now let's go to the management of a motion at the General Assembly They are invoking the same rules. ARE assembly session. There is a motion on the floor that was placed by LACRALO President and President. The motion asks a question for which the vote will be used to decide the answer. Members have seven (7) calendar das before the virtual ballot estcerrada. These days can be used to virtually discuss the motion. Under the Rules of Order of the General Assembly, a question concerning movements Low consideracin can raise a point of not getting this order.You concept correct. My movement is not special. The motions are classified as procedural or non-procedural. My proposal was procedural. The mocin order at a general meeting face to face is just a matter of a increase member at his feet, be recognized by the President - I mean, the President believes that, literally, the member with their own eyes - the right of Member to speak is recognized by the President and given the floor to address the assembly. Switch to the virtual general assembly. In this context, we raise a question of order by electronic means, on this occasion, an electronic mail. Considering what the trend sde plead ignorance, my e-mail scathingly started with the term 'his is a point of order "I .Tambin Be sure to indicate the reason behind my question of order in a motion; I was directly related to the motion before the meeting then, that is the vote to choose and to set his LACRALO Representative to ALAC. My movement detallque the call of the election was null and void effect since a representative in the person of the spear Hinds, Guyana DevNet member, he was selected. Validmi informing the assembly mocina the assembly can not appoint another representative when it was nominated and selected. It is procedural and estcuestionando the process by which the proposal from the choice is colocdelante Assembly by the President. Any choice that aims to choose someone other than Lance Hinds, whose nomination was immaculate and without deterioration and never herself nega Currently, it is contrary to the rules and, therefore, illegal. This action does not is but other event as far corruption in the LACRALO. And you sir, You can not reasonably deny their active collusion. Under the rules of order at meetings democrticas, my question of order must be processed \\ u200b \\ u200bANTES the post to the Assembly by the President. That mocin will be asking their illegal vote. My point of order Contain a motion calling for a vote of no confidence under incompetence of leadership for the cause. This request is based on outlining the charges, the living testimony of being illegal vote. The mocin was recognized by the President. And we can only We assume that act out the instructions of the presiding officer when Asked for official translation. If this is the opposite, aquesttu opportunity to declare. Because if this is an operation of pcaro and on top of acting outside the rules, which will have It also undermined the President in the exercise of their functions. In other words, it will have taken office held by President of LACRALO and powers exercised that are not theirs to exercise. Is say, a stroke, a coup. In doing so, it has violated the Rules of Procedure of LACRALO, certainly this time without violence, undermines the office of the Presidency LACRALO LACRALO President and placed in a position of I descrdito. If this is what sucedisin protest presiding officer, the President of LACRALO could then reasonably be accused of leaving office and contribute to their own descrdito. In any case, the result is a corrupt organization, bribed in East State for acts of corruption. When the ballot is closed and the count is done and unless specified otherwise, the General Assembly ends. Asque trying to lift the four (4) proposals as amendments to my one movement Dev is like sealun attempt to thwart my single movement. But more important LACRALO general assembly session ARE NOT permanent. Y because the General Assembly is not perpetual, your answer is not too late and sadly misplaced. But, by definition, a practical corrupt. Suppose now accept what is a movement and the context in which mocin planteestaramos is required to judge this, their behavior, as incorrigible. The accusation of corruption is based. 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