Regarding domain tasting, the record will show that the LACRALO Secretariat proposed that if the AGP was a contractual obligation, the organic resolution was to remove the profit incentive from its exploitation. LACRALO adopted this position. It appears the proposal as outlined has also adopted this straightforward solution, albeit with a little weakness. In our view, the weakness it that the rules proposed are not applicable to all operators and binding on all Registrars. Our opposition to the grounds outlined for new gTLD string objection in the operator application process was early and is well-known. As a student of history, it reminded me of the thinking that gave us the legacy of the British colonial "Sus" laws, which were just as uncivilized. I say again: that 'public order and morality" clause contained in the gTLD application objection process debases the ideal of an allegedly global process, is offensive to reason and injurious to the commonweal. This general position was also adopted by LACRALO and, eventually, the ALAC. In my own view, it is disingenuous, at best, to promote the idea of 'fixing' this in the "implementation process". And I am unanimous on that. Carlton BTW, counting minutes as a measure of "participation" is plain....well, wrong-headed too, eh! And I say this as a guy who sells knowledge services by the hour!! -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 04:28 AM To: At-Large Staff Cc: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [ALAC] ALAC Rules of Procedure - draft amendments to Rule 21 - versions espanol and francais I'm not quite sure why the wiki-cleaner removed my comment, but I think the draft amendments are absurd. Any time members could spend reviewing these and counting up their participation minutes would be far better spent on policy matters, such as whether the AGP implementation changes address our tasting concerns, <http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-20oct08-en.htm> <http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/agp-draft-20oct08-en.html>, or reviewing newly-posted drafts on the new gTLDs process <http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-21oct08-en.htm> <http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm> --Wendy At-Large Staff wrote:

Dear members:

We have today posted the french and spanish versions of the discussion draft of changes to Rule 21 of the ALAC Rules of Procedure. These can be found at: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?cairo_documents

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