Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Algo esta pasando en ALAC
[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Dear Friends I have carefully read the proposal made by the ALAC chair. I don't think we should agree. The rules were made so that the regions have a voice and can participate in meetings and express the voices of each community. There were always extra tickets for ALAC to carry out the liaisons that ALAC has with the ACySOs so that they participate in the meetings of the groups where they have obligations as a liaison. But removing our members from the region to favor one or another region is not correct. Africa could request CROP to hold a meeting in Africa. ? Did we have the opportunity to bring people to our choice when the meeting was in CANCUN? NO. For purposeful regional meetings we have the CROP. So there is no reason for them to bring 5 members who we do not know who they are but we know that they do not represent us, on our behalf. I think that LACRALO, especially the ALAC members because they represent us together with the ALAC and I would hope that APRALO would also speak out against this proposal. There are established rules and we can only change them in an ALAC general assembly and it is worth looking at the support in the ICANN statutes, because if the TRAVEL group issues the tickets it is because it is clear that they must proceed that way. I hope that our colleagues will think about the principles of representing the interests of users in the 5 corners of the world. This is the principle that guides ALAC. Changing it in my opinion requires the process of changing the bylaws. Hugs to all Vanda From: lac-discuss-es<lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Marcelo Rodriguez<marcelorodriguez@internauta.org.ar> Date: Friday, 5 April 2024 at 20:26 To: Sergio Salinas Porto<presidencia@internauta.org.ar> Cc: LACRALO Spanish<lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Something is happening at ALAC Dear Region of LACRALO We believe that what is happening in the decisions of the Alac board and some of its closest members is not possible. It is therefore necessary to emphatically support Sergio's motion and, I hope you will accompany us with your statements or opinions, whether you agree or not. Below and in that same line I leave you the message sent to the list of Alac Members "Dear colleagues, I voted against this horrible proposal, which breaks with the buttom up and reveals that a group of ALAC with a desire for power and little shame wants to take control of ALAC and define among themselves who they want accompany us to the next destination that marks the ICANN agenda. This measure, in addition to being unfriendly, is plagued by the manifest intention of breaking the logical forms of participation, the power that the regions have when proposing their representatives, it generates privileges for the group that was not elected by anyone, it discriminates against those who legitimately are with the vote in this place. This action embarrasses the entire ALAC and ICANN. It is up to their conscience what they are doing. In my country, Argentina, when someone takes power and ignores those who have been legitimately elected, they are called Golpistas, or people who promote a Coup d'état and promote a tyranny, perhaps this is the case." Greetings (and stay tuned) Pay attention Marcelo Rodriguez On Fri, Apr 5 of 2024 10:28, Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar<mailto:presidencia@internauta.org.ar> > wrote: Dear friends of the region, Something is happening in ALAC, a few hours ago the ALAC President asked our ALAC Members to vote YES, NO or Abstain, on a small list of people who participated in the Kigali meeting in Rwanda. This short list excludes some of the expanded leadership of our region and others entitled to participate in this meeting and adds yes, a group of friends of the power of the ALAC Chair. This attempt to break the principle of Bottom Up, which has prevailed in ICANN since the beginning of time, to ignore the elected leaders (alac members, presidents and secretaries of each of the regions) and put the friends of power, in My country is called Coup d'état. I understand that the president of ALAC is responsible, together with this group of frequent travelers for approximately 20 years, for putting regional representation at stake and generating a perverse imbalance of power in the House of Internet Users of the World . An anecdotal fact is that the majority of these "frequent passengers" do not come from collective work within institutions, but from the world of the individual, the smallest, without representation of anything. I think that is where the lack of appreciation of thinking about institutions with democratic life, represented and with value lies. I have spoken with all our ALAC Members about this issue and also about other regions, so that this Institutional Coup trial does not prosper, we will see how these things happen these days (voting deadline April 7), some of them He could have been confused in his way of voting and it is understandable, these people know how to "sell you the unsellable", but I understand that after our talk everyone I spoke with completely understood that the way is not to give power to a privileged group, that wants to break with the best of democratic traditions of participation. I hug you tightly, without struggle there are no rights! Sergio Salinas Porto Internet President Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN<https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo> Argentine Association of Internet Users<http://www.internauta.org.ar/> /FeTIA<http://www.fetia.org.ar/> FUILAC- Federation of Internet Users of LAC<https://fuilac.org> facebook: salinasporto<http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> twitter: sergiosalinas<http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 "I wish we could be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense" Eduardo Galeano ________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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