Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS

March 9, 2013

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 Subject: Re: RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS 
 From: alberto@soto.net.ar

 I do not agree at all on changing the electoral process. Will 
 make it illegal. And we can not really ever you can think of someone, 
 aside procedures. 
 The same estde according to current standards. If someone does not anot, 
 is your problem, and in turn is a demonstration that does not really 
 interested in this process, or during the PERIOD distrado was open and already 
 closed., which also will not be eligible to run. 
 I thought that such attacks, citing violations of the policy, not 
 ms in LACRALO never happen, others shame me. 

 Alberto Soto 

 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Johnny 
 Laureano 
 Posted on: Friday, March 8, 2013 8:15 pm 
 To: Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch, William M. Zamora - Lawyer 
 CC: ICANN At-Large Staff; lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS 

 Dear companions LACRALO, ICANN Staff, 

 It's hard to ignore the legitimacy comentariosrespecto this 
 election process, I was haexperimentadoantes recuerdaque andlor 
 sonestos painful process for everyone. 

 Therefore, if possible, be appropriate by one semanael aperturar 
 Registration of candidates for this election process and form a committee 
 election, such as proposed by Dr. Pisanty, it seems sensible and 
 reasonable. 

 An opening of these two actions, would advance the legitimacy of 
 results. 

 Johnny Laureano 
 AUI PERU - ALS 

 --- On Fri, 03/08/13, William M. Zamora - Lawyer <gmzamora@gmail.com>
 wrote: 

 From: William M. Zamora - Lawyer <gmzamora@gmail.com>
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS 
 To: "Dr.Baruch Pisanty Alejandro " <apisan@unam.mx>
 Cc: "lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org" 
<lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> , "ICANN At-Large Staff" 
<staff@atlarge.icann.org>
 Date: Friday, March 8, 2013, 4:58 PM 

 Dr. Pisanty: 

 Quizs misspoke and told me something I did not mean, but do not think I 
 Indeed, at no time defenda Jos, nor defendnada, the only thing that 
 express and I reiterate, it is my personal discomfort the terms used, 
 if something defendfue clarity of the terms used, charge Joso 
 otherwise, an people not to my liking of lack of transparency, 
 I do not think it's something that is right or condiga with good standards 
 coexistence. - I mean, I reiterate and argue that if one believes that there is something wrong, 
 strange, illicit, or maladjusted to the rules, you should report it and seek its 
 aclaracin. -

 One can have a thousand questions but they do not trump the certainties, 
 To cite an example very sencllo and close in time, I was a fervent 
 precursor to object. patagonia, however at large said no, that does not 
 had reason I could think of many adjectives for 
 representative and we had absolutely nothing inaccin to hear, however, 
 as I have the certainty that someone has been a corrupt and has 
 received anything in return for doing nothing, rather shut my mouth, which 
 if I'm going to do is try to promote future what needs to be promoted for 
 this does not happen again, y'know? 

 Joses large, adult, professional and family man, sabrque 
 say or not say, what I am saying is that it comes very easy, but not 
 proves nothing. no need to talk about lack of transparency, or suggest 
 when there is nothing more than personal opinion sb. - 

 Atte 

 William M. Zamora 
 ADIAr 

 On March 8, 2013 18:28, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch 
<apisan@unam.mx> wrote
...
William, Sergio,
Qubueno to manifest. Qubueno defenders left him 
Jos. You believe they can not only clarify the situation l?
A President and is presented in a unique candidate 
Eleccin who performed under his direction ... not awake 
Some questions?
And no, not talking about suspicions or illegalities. I talk about policy. To the 
Less may have formed an Independent Electoral Commission 
Carrying out the electoral process in the part that touches the 
Community, and certainly it's to prepare and conduct the sesin of 
Discusin with that candidate.
How will be the ballot for president? Slo be 
Be able to vote and abstain? is going to be an option to vote in 
Against?
In these respects we are entering an election without rules set 
With anticipaciny operated by the candidates themselves.
An election with option of reeleccin should become a 
Rendicin occasion of accountability and what we are seeing is routed 
Ms well to evade it.
It is not the case in ste secrete. Sylvia has done an effective job 
And efficient and faces competition. Also I think it should 
Away from the organization of the electoral process, but since there 
Competition, also rendircuentas its work in this regard.
To dispel any doubt left in them, I just went through a process 
Another similar organization that has cost the job but has 
Managed to separate the possible interests of the "incumbents" with those of 
The "successors". The estdisponible information for those who have 
Interest in the details.
Alejandro Pisanty
--------------------------- 
Dr. Alejandro Pisanty 
Facultad de Química UNAM
Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD
+525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475
Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
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Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
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*Desde:* Guillermo M. Zamora - Abogado [gmzamora@gmail.com]  *Enviado 
el:* viernes, 08 de marzo de 2013 15:02
*Hasta:* Presidencia Internauta
*CC:* Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch; ICANN At-Large Staff;  
lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org
*Asunto:* Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: LACRALO ELECCIONES
  Estimados:
Coincido con Sergio, me parece, totalmente ofensivo y desubicado el 
comentario del Dr. Pisanty.-
Le pediría que en nombre de la "transparencia" que pregona sea 
transparente en sus palabras.-
Si considera que hubo algún tipo de conducta ilicita haga las 
denuncias correspondientes y active los mecanismos que deban ser 
activados, en su defecto lo dice el dicho: "mejor callar y parecer 
sencillo de opiniones que hablar y demostralo", el dicho no es así 
pero no quiero convertirme en lo que critico.-
Atte
Guillermo M. Zamora
ADIAr
El 8 de marzo de 2013 17:44, Presidencia Internauta < 
presidencia@internauta.org.ar> escribió:
...
Alejandro, perdon pero no entiendo, quizas me perdí de algo. Cual es 
el problema? No hubo otro candidato a presidente que Jose Arce y se 
presentaron dos a ocupar la secretaría (Sylvia y Lance), no entiendo 
eso
de: "Hagan un intento para simular transparencia, cuando menos, ya 
que no lograron actuar con ella."
Saludos Cordiales
*Sergio Salinas Porto
Presidente Internauta Argentina
Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet 
<http://www.internauta.org.ar>/CTA <http://www.ctamdq.org.ar>
FLUI- Federación Latinoamericana de Usuarios de Internet 
<http://www.fuilain.org/> facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas 
MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto...
Skype:internautaargentina
Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819*
*"Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que 
humillan nuestra conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo
Galeano*
El 8 de marzo de 2013 14:41, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
<apisan@unam.mx>escribió:
...
Sylvia,
es urgente que Uds. envíen a la lista los nombres de los candidatos 
que solicitaron su registro.
En particular parece que sólo hay un candidato al cargo de 
Presidente, y es el mismo que está organizando las elecciones.
Hagan un intento para simular transparencia, cuando menos, ya que 
no lograron actuar con ella.
Alejandro Pisanty
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
Facultad de Química UNAM
Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD
+525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475
Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
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Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ 
lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de 
sylvia@internautabrasil.org [sylvia@internautabrasil.org] Enviado 
el: viernes, 08 de marzo de 2013 09:18
Hasta: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org
CC: 'ICANN At-Large Staff'
Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] RES:  LACRALO ELECCIONES
Claro que sí, Jackeline.
Ya estábamos trabajando en eso junto al Staff y publicaremos todo 
en la página WIKI de las elecciones.
Saludos
Sylvia
___________________________________________________
Sylvia Herlein
sylvia@internautabrasil.org
Secretaria LACRALO-ICANN/ 2012-2013 -  http://atlarge.icann.org 
Secretaria FLUI 2009-2012 sylvia_leite=Skype
-----Mensagem original-----
De: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
[mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de 
jam@jacquelinemorris.com Enviada em: viernes, 08 de marzo de 2013 
12:57
Para: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org
Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff
Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] LACRALO ELECCIONES
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  Asunto: Re: LACRALO ELECCIONES
  De: jam@jacquelinemorris.com
  Hola Sylvia
  ¿Se puede obtener una lista de todos los nominados y si es 
posible, un  enlace o un  descripción de las posiciones? Por 
ejemplo, cuáles son las  funciones, roles,  responsabilidades y el 
mandato son el Presidente y la  Secretaría?
  Creo que un recordatorio o, para algunos, un primer punto de 
vista, de
lo
que son las posiciones que  votar a favor de la toma de decisiones 
hará  mucho más fácil.
  Gracias
  Jacqueline A. Morris
  La tecnología debería ser como el oxígeno: ubicua, necesaria,
Invisible y
Gratis. (Después de que Chris Lehmann 
<http://twitter.com/chrislehmann>
)
  El Viernes, 08 de marzo 2013 a las 6:48 AM, <
sylvia@internautabrasil.org>
escribió:
  >
...
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  Subject: ELECTIONS LACRALO
  From: sylvia@internautabrasil.org
  Dear Members of LACRALO
  Yesterday at 23:59 UTC terminel nomination period for President 
/ ae  Secretary / a LACRALO 2013-2014.

https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40928090
  And as announced, the next scheduled week we have a conference 
call  with  nominees (the Staff estorganizando it).
  Please enven your questions to the list or the Wiki in the 
section  comments.
  Regards
  Sylvia
  ___________________________________________________
  Sylvia Herlein
<mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org> sylvia@internautabrasil.org
  Secretary LACRALO-ICANN / 2012-2013 - <http://atlarge.icann.org>  
http://atlarge.icann.org
  2009-2012 Secretary FLUI
  sylvia_leite = Skype
  Descrio: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil
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