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[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =?windows-1252?q?ALAC_2nd_Session_=96_Community = From: to presidencia@internauta.org.ar Dear representing companions of LACRALO: podria some of you to inform to us on the subjects treated in reunion of today 4 of November about 20087 in ALAC? I have wanted to enter and to be impossible to be able to see me or to listen to nothing in marinates acrobat. On the other hand I want to propose that both representing of the LACRALO they take like mandate the nomination of Andres Piazza to be liasson of mobi (dot mobi). if nobody is against this gustaria me that silence is interpreted in this ocacion as an express mandate to our representatives onthis point. Envio in case they do not remember our companions the final document on the "politicas of participation of ICANN" (badly called "the politicas ones of trips"), which this but down, if some of our companions it needs I can send it by electronic mail or e to it pdf warm greetings Sergio POSITION OF LACRALO BEFORE THE NEW POLITICAS OF PARTICIPATION OF ICANN ( BADLY TRIP CALLS POLITICAS) The participant organizations of the Civil Society of ICANN, we have taken knowledge of the decision that has taken east organism to change the form of PARTIPACION in the same one. Who we formed part of organizations ALS we considered that policy of trips has a close relationship with the participation of Users of Internet in ICANN, reason why we rejected emphatically decision that is that attempt to the policies and principles from ICANN and by of Internet. We talked about badly to called "the political ones of trips" ". We understand that this is thus, so that this in game the fact not to travel, but the total potentiality of participation of the civil society in this organism. We are convinced that the participation in ICANN implies the interaction between governments, companies and users to be able to count on an organization that it directs the destinies of Internet in right and democratic form. We did not conceive but in this only sense the participation of the society civilian like representatives of the end users of Internet, within ICANN-Consideramos that ICANN has responded until now to the expectations raised, opening to the participation of the OSC like part of aprocess formativo that demands the incorporation of all the actors whoparticipate in the life of Internet. Therefore, every day, is more important obtaining than others organizations are gotten up in the real decision making. If a greater participation looks for they must surpass the limitations that until now they make difficult the decision making. Although in the present time meetings by teleconferencing, this one means are had of communication is limited as opposed to the decision making from the ALS in the actual meetings according to which they arrange our statutes. It is imperative by virtue of the search of consensuses, that ICANN looks for others average of reduction of costs. We understand that one of them could be to trim the costs of representation of the structures of governments, since well they could to support the costs of participation based on the interests of each one of the countries in taking part in the global policies of communication. We are convinced that a this serious way solid and been worth of construction policies you publish of each one of the states with respect tothe TICS, prioritizing the transparency of management, economic independence, sovereignty policy and the self-determination of the towns, like cannot bewaived norms of the countries at the time of the confrontation of ideas andproposals that prioritize the interests of all the humanity and the towns in individual. It is important that the weakest sector is had the charge of in their participation, already that in ICANN the fact that occurs two strong sectors participate from economic (companies and governments) and one weak one (ALS), is necessary to safeguard the rights of the majorities (the Users of Internet), that they find as opposed to in a position of inequality the powerful ones. The history of our region has demonstrated that the work to us between different representative sectors from the democratic life, have affirmed value of the plurality. We do not understand the total and pertinent participation without thethree valued estates of representation are seated in equality of conditions and possibilities, that is to say, a true World-wide government of Internet with egalitarian tripartite representation, between States, Companies and End users of Internet. He is why we insisted on the total participation of how until now we have participated and we did not resign to the rights acquired in ICANN by the Users of Internet. They must be adopted political effective to avoid the concentration of information and the decisions of the policies in ICANN. If fewhave the possibility of controlling the information is not possiblea participation total and pertinent. We understand that the reduction in the possibility of participation of End users of Internet conspire against the democratic system established in ICANN. Since when restricting the plurality anddiversity that it assures the total exercise the right to the information andparticipation of the users a scene of social injustice is caused. Those that it has more discuss and participate and those that less they have and more contribute to the system they are outside the world of the debates and the construction of one Internet better. For these reasons we ratified ourselves in the search of a participation egalitarian which it improves the fulfillment of the ICANN objectives and therefore of the Users of Internet and we hoped that the decision is reverted in please the real participation of the end users of Internet in this structure of world-wide participation of the destinies of Internet. 2008/11/2 <jam@jacquelinemorris.com>
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Dear Colleagues: I support the nomination of Andres Piazza as liaison to .mobi and have communicated this. But please do not forget that there were questions raised regarding this request that are yet to be resolved. Carlton -----Original Message----- From: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of presidencia@internauta.org.ar Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 01:33 PM To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] =?windows-1252?q?ALAC_2nd_Session_=96_Community = [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =?windows-1252?q?ALAC_2nd_Session_=96_Community = From: to presidencia@internauta.org.ar Dear representing companions of LACRALO: podria some of you to inform to us on the subjects treated in reunion of today 4 of November about 20087 in ALAC? I have wanted to enter and to be impossible to be able to see me or to listen to nothing in marinates acrobat. On the other hand I want to propose that both representing of the LACRALO they take like mandate the nomination of Andres Piazza to be liasson of mobi (dot mobi). if nobody is against this gustaria me that silence is interpreted in this ocacion as an express mandate to our representatives onthis point. Envio in case they do not remember our companions the final document on the "politicas of participation of ICANN" (badly called "the politicas ones of trips"), which this but down, if some of our companions it needs I can send it by electronic mail or e to it pdf warm greetings Sergio POSITION OF LACRALO BEFORE THE NEW POLITICAS OF PARTICIPATION OF ICANN ( BADLY TRIP CALLS POLITICAS) The participant organizations of the Civil Society of ICANN, we have taken knowledge of the decision that has taken east organism to change the form of PARTIPACION in the same one. Who we formed part of organizations ALS we considered that policy of trips has a close relationship with the participation of Users of Internet in ICANN, reason why we rejected emphatically decision that is that attempt to the policies and principles from ICANN and by of Internet. We talked about badly to called "the political ones of trips" ". We understand that this is thus, so that this in game the fact not to travel, but the total potentiality of participation of the civil society in this organism. We are convinced that the participation in ICANN implies the interaction between governments, companies and users to be able to count on an organization that it directs the destinies of Internet in right and democratic form. We did not conceive but in this only sense the participation of the society civilian like representatives of the end users of Internet, within ICANN-Consideramos that ICANN has responded until now to the expectations raised, opening to the participation of the OSC like part of aprocess formativo that demands the incorporation of all the actors whoparticipate in the life of Internet. Therefore, every day, is more important obtaining than others organizations are gotten up in the real decision making. If a greater participation looks for they must surpass the limitations that until now they make difficult the decision making. Although in the present time meetings by teleconferencing, this one means are had of communication is limited as opposed to the decision making from the ALS in the actual meetings according to which they arrange our statutes. It is imperative by virtue of the search of consensuses, that ICANN looks for others average of reduction of costs. We understand that one of them could be to trim the costs of representation of the structures of governments, since well they could to support the costs of participation based on the interests of each one of the countries in taking part in the global policies of communication. We are convinced that a this serious way solid and been worth of construction policies you publish of each one of the states with respect tothe TICS, prioritizing the transparency of management, economic independence, sovereignty policy and the self-determination of the towns, like cannot bewaived norms of the countries at the time of the confrontation of ideas andproposals that prioritize the interests of all the humanity and the towns in individual. It is important that the weakest sector is had the charge of in their participation, already that in ICANN the fact that occurs two strong sectors participate from economic (companies and governments) and one weak one (ALS), is necessary to safeguard the rights of the majorities (the Users of Internet), that they find as opposed to in a position of inequality the powerful ones. The history of our region has demonstrated that the work to us between different representative sectors from the democratic life, have affirmed value of the plurality. We do not understand the total and pertinent participation without thethree valued estates of representation are seated in equality of conditions and possibilities, that is to say, a true World-wide government of Internet with egalitarian tripartite representation, between States, Companies and End users of Internet. He is why we insisted on the total participation of how until now we have participated and we did not resign to the rights acquired in ICANN by the Users of Internet. They must be adopted political effective to avoid the concentration of information and the decisions of the policies in ICANN. If fewhave the possibility of controlling the information is not possiblea participation total and pertinent. We understand that the reduction in the possibility of participation of End users of Internet conspire against the democratic system established in ICANN. Since when restricting the plurality anddiversity that it assures the total exercise the right to the information andparticipation of the users a scene of social injustice is caused. Those that it has more discuss and participate and those that less they have and more contribute to the system they are outside the world of the debates and the construction of one Internet better. For these reasons we ratified ourselves in the search of a participation egalitarian which it improves the fulfillment of the ICANN objectives and therefore of the Users of Internet and we hoped that the decision is reverted in please the real participation of the end users of Internet in this structure of world-wide participation of the destinies of Internet. 2008/11/2 <jam@jacquelinemorris.com>
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