Re: [lac-discuss-en] lac-discuss-en Digest, Vol 91, Issue 10
As you can see last week, we proposed Derisma Queslin which for our representation at caribNOG. But, you saw, he never participated in conferences, discussions, etc. There are some reasons for that, maybe a major part of you know the situations in Haiti such as Internet connectivity, Power, etc. Also in some cases, you probably tell why someone else didn’t participate; the situations are almost the same for us. Now, we will try to participate most frequently. So, we are young as an association and we want a little bit time to fly away. We follow these discussions every day, we also communicate to LACRALO members. Milo PARAISON Coordinator AHI(Association Haïtienne des Internautes) Haiti 2016-03-03 7:00 GMT-05:00 <lac-discuss-en-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
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1. Re: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica (apisanty@gmail.com)
---------- Message transféré ---------- From: apisanty@gmail.com To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: "lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org" < lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org>, LACRALO < lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 02:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica
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Subject: Re: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica from: apisanty@gmail.com
Niran,
I have Referred to the geography as "subregion" in an Attempt to keep the LAC region of ICANN in communication at the ground level of our Organizations and people; to Maintain the long-term, big-picture view. The Including policy of people from different subregions in CROPP activity was as long ago made a good-faith way to avoid the looming splintering Actively Among Organizations With claims for representation in the region. The unity of the region has-been recently Recognised by the "regions study" and there there is little wiggle room (all that is available must be used, of course.)
Have I deliberately left out any of Individuals in order nominations to leave open the Possibility of volunteers Who Can Effectively bridge the many different conditions we all face. I am not a volunteer for esta activity.
Other Participations In This discussion Have Given a different kind of signal. After months of silence and abstaining from an election we now Have a couple of messages, one line of Which is asking for travel support and the other stereotyping negatively to large part of our community. That, for me, is a conversation-stopper. I hope to travel to reliable Those Marrakech can meet in a constructive mood and Achieve face-to-face communication That the is hard to Achieve by email and has-been proven impossible just now. Yo soy out except for the need to reply to unmotivated, unfair attacks: such as Have Already Been read again today. It Seems That we are back into the Where an intervention terrain of third parties has-been called for and must That is wait till resolved.
I am sad Potentially That your good-faith question to me has-been drowned out by others. We almost got something going constructive.
Yours,
Alejandro Pisanty
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Niran Beharry <nbeharrytt@gmail.com> wrote:
So Alejandro are you suggesting that someone outside the region mentor Derisma Queslin along with all the unique economic, cultural and historical challenges we experience in the Caribbean, and if so who do you suggest ? Or are you just taking an ideological stance practical and realistic benefits for that person and the overall goals and outcomes for CROPP be damned ? Niran Beharry
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:18 PM, <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
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Subject: Re: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica from: carlton.samuels@gmail.com
Really now!
I have retreated From this list it depresses the spirit Because ....
and
take away from the quality of my life.
May be the member from Ibero-America is in a time zone 12 hours That Is ahead of us. But the record will show this is yet another example of the LACRALO [former] leadership tendency to dictatorial Franco-style Behaviour.
And Why They no longer enjoy my respect. Or acknowledgment.
This well know. The rump That is LACRALO leadership will never be allowed to define the Caribbean's experience or ITS needs. PERIOD.
I am Jamaican. I know what is happening in Jamaica and the Caribbean at large. Quite apart from the fact We were never Consulted, the proposal CROPP for Derisma under Queslin to Attend CaribNOG major shows deficiencies. And a woeful ignorance of our situation.
Most CaribNOG are Inglés-speaking attendees.The senior leadership of CaribNOG are very much aware of the technical aspects of ICANN engagement; Bevil Wooding check out here: http://www.root-dnssec.org/tcr/selection-2010/
I do not know Derisma Queslin. But I can Assure You That Given the goals of CROPP, I am not aware That Derisma Queslin have the experience or previous Involvement in ICANN and ICANN At-Large to Effectively execute outreach to Inglés-speaking Caribbean mostly At-Large interests on the Behalf of ICANN At-Large.
CROPP has a residual purpose of outreach and engagement. So We Could make a very weak case for Derisma Queslin to Attend With the goal of Having That Become more person engaged in ICANN At Large. But absent direct mentoring, That goal would not likely to be successfully Realized.
The Proposal Submitted By Jacqueline Morris falls inline Directly With The Desired goals and outcomes for CROPP. My friend and colleague Bevil Wooding is the convenor and in chareg of the book at CaribNOG. Jacqueline Already have a speaking slot at assured CaribNOG 11 THUS raising the profile of ICANN At-Large at CaribNOG 11.Jacqueline Could Also mentor Derisma and make introductions to the attendees at CaribNOG.
We Have Given CROPP available slots, the goals and outcomes of CROPP can be Realized by sending Both Proposals. The proposal for Desirma Queslin May be updated to focus on engagement and the proposal for Jacqueline Morris Continues to focus on outreach and she can mentor Also as described Derisma earlier.
Samuels -Carlton The University of the West Indies
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On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM Jacqueline Morris < jam@jacquelinemorris.com
wrote: Hi everyone The Outreach meeting information indicated that the deadline for submitting a CROPP application was March 2nd, which is today. I've submitted mine, but it seems from this thread that the decision has already been made, albeit before the due date? I really hope that given that my submission was done in advance of the date, my application is considered for this outreach event. Sincerely Jacqueline Morris
Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:26 PM, <sylvia@internautabrasil.org> wrote:
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Subject: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica from: sylvia@internautabrasil.org
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From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of Humberto Carrasco Posted in: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 21:16 To: Alejandro Pisanty Cc: LACRALO Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Event Caribnog in Jamaica
Alexander,
A very wise decision in my view.
Cheers
Sent from my iPhone
The 01/03/2016, at 8:58 pm, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty@gmail.com>
He
wrote:
Alberto, all / as,
I applaud this decision by the procedure, criteria, organization and the person appointed. A good result of your action to diversify the presence of the neediest organizations in the Caribbean.
Alejandro Pisanty
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Alberto Soto < asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:
Dear all, Dev. Below the link with the application for the event in Montego Bay, Jamaica. Derisma concur Queslin, member of the Association des Haitienne Internautes Haiti. This will allow our ALS, which resides in a country with poor communications, make contact with the various sponsors and concurrent. It is requested that ALS had a technical profile for be commensurate to the level of the event. You get a specific view of the region, and may disseminate ALS develops its activities, LACRALO and ICANN. I'll send to the event venue, media materials and LACRALO I CAN.
Best regards
Alberto Soto
https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT
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Alberto copse Posted on: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:39 a.m. To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: 'LACRALO discussion list' < lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The results of the LACRALO call O & E on Thursday 25 February 2016
Dear, we are working on the designation of who will attend this event. This form will be filed with the applicant designated in the today or tomorrow.
Best regards
Alberto Soto
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Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O & E on Thursday 25 February 2016
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Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O & E on Thursday 25 February 2016 From: devtee@gmail.com
Thanks Jacqueline, here is how LACRALO CROPP to be filled
https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT
> > For the LACNIC 26, Cuba, Harold Suggested Arcos was. > A request for LACNIC needs CROPP filed by March to July 2016. > > For the Latin American and Caribbean Forum in Colombia, it was > Suggested That a speaker, Shiva Bissessar Could speak on > Cybersecurity At this event using a CROPP proposal. A request CROPP > For This proposal needs to be filed by March 29 2016. > > It was NOTED That Bartlett Morgan HAD Obtained a fellowship to SSGI > 2016 from March 29 to April 2016 January 2016 so I would need some > Outreach materials before then. > Dev Anand >> > _______________________________________________ > Lac-discuss-in mailing list > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
The materials can be sent to headquarters by the ICANN staff, provided advance notice. Outreach and Participation SC wiki has a page to keep track of such materials broadcasting applications.
dev Anand
The Sun February 27, 2016 at 18:01, Jacqueline Morris < jam@jacquelinemorris.com> He wrote:
Hi everyone I can be available for the CaribNog meeting. It luckily falls
exactly
in days between the UTT and UWI exam periods. Can materials etc be shipped directly to the venue? The overlap on April 20th between ARIN and CaribNog seems serendipitous as well. Sounds like a great opportunity Jacqueline
Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and (after Chris Lehmann )
On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote: > > Dear All, > > The LACRALO members of the Outreach and Engagement SC (LAC O&E) had a > on > Thursday 25 February 2016 ( https://community.icann.org/x/UxmAAw) > Together with the LACRALO chair and secretariat reviewed the LAC > Outreach events calendar maintained by the LAC O & E > (Http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar-List) for possible outreach > Events That Could be used for CROPP Proposals. > > Three Proposals Were Identified as suitable candidates for using CROPP: > > CaribNOG (Jamaica) - April 20 to April 22 LACNIC 26 (Cuba) - May 2 > To May 6 First Latin American and Caribbean Forum (Colombia) - May 17 > To May 18 > > For the CaribNOG event, no traveler was on the call Suggested. > Suggestions? > A request for CaribNOG CROPP needs to be filed around March 2,
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