About the debate by LACRALO ALAC Member.
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: About the debate by LACRALO ALAC Member. From: presidencia@internauta.org.ar Dear colleagues, I will be frank and direct in some ways, I will not Turning to the issue. First I'll explain something to Dev, who as usual misinterprets and mess everything the unknown or not understood by his lack of interest in others or having to do with the compromise that has less. My participation in APYME, which clarified an assembly of small and medium businesses, many cooperatives and micro-emprendores my task and team-mates was the field-work Internet users free Web site for them (microentrepreneurs) to make their first steps on the Internet, as well as to teach the use some tools of electronic commerce in the context of what We called "fair trade". In this organization they are not involved ISP. I hope you remove the term hypocrisy and I apologize to me and my co-organization, you were very rude. On the other hand I will explain why not vote for Lance. Personally I have nothing against Lance, we have always had a deal friendly and relaxed between them, I always find a good person. Now, I have much against what it represents, I do not want a person that from 2006 to 2015 he never attended a meeting, I do not work I never in the region, did not participate in any conference and we only have seen when we meet face to face with tickets paid by ICANN. I do not like to be a provider of Internet services that for organizations working on consumer protection that is the enemy, who swindle us, other charges us, breach contracts, etc. Do Not I tell him to do that, just saying that represent entrepreneurs that for us. LACRALO is the space where end users participate and not companies. I would never put me to work in the space of enterprises, ISPs, registrars or registries, I expect the same from them. That's what I call respect. If they are NGOs, foundations or charities to meet with so-called corporate responsibility, have these organizations not It enables it to be an organization of users or may represent those interests, at most you can represent the interests of businesses ... not ours. Staff what is incomprehensible and other frustrating, I hope after that take time to explain to us what happened. It is not the first time that these things happen in the region, I have in my memory happened in 2009 ... That is my position. * Sergio Salinas Porto President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association of Internet Users <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / Fetia <http://www.fetia.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> Fluid Latin American Federation of Internet Users <http://www.fuilatin.org> facebook: salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> & sergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> Hangout: presidencia@internauta.org.ar <Hangout%3Apresidencia@internauta.org.ar> / Pixelhub: salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> Youtube: salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> Skype: internautaargentina Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * * "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano * [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/2f292cdf60.html --]]
Accuses Dev of misinterpretation and messing everything up, deems Dev's very rude and demands an apology. We dealing with children here? I realise long ago that the political culture of LA does not allow them to understand the concept of democracy. I see a lot of manipulation. Making simple matters complex. A lot of patronising go on in here too and false hugs and kisses. False; and I am in agreement with Dev about the hypocrisy. Too much elitism in this group. Too much dictatorship and a whole heap of arrogance. Can't get anywhere with this and I recognised that a long time ago. When I think of the behaviour coming from that side, the following words flash at me: Dictatorship; imperialist; racist. Just an impression. ROK -----Original Message----- From: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of presidencia@internauta.org.ar Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2015 20:55 To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] About the debate by LACRALO ALAC Member. [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: About the debate by LACRALO ALAC Member. From: presidencia@internauta.org.ar Dear colleagues, I will be frank and direct in some ways, I will not Turning to the issue. First I'll explain something to Dev, who as usual misinterprets and mess everything the unknown or not understood by his lack of interest in others or having to do with the compromise that has less. My participation in APYME, which clarified an assembly of small and medium businesses, many cooperatives and micro-emprendores my task and team-mates was the field-work Internet users free Web site for them (microentrepreneurs) to make their first steps on the Internet, as well as to teach the use some tools of electronic commerce in the context of what We called "fair trade". In this organization they are not involved ISP. I hope you remove the term hypocrisy and I apologize to me and my co-organization, you were very rude. On the other hand I will explain why not vote for Lance. Personally I have nothing against Lance, we have always had a deal friendly and relaxed between them, I always find a good person. Now, I have much against what it represents, I do not want a person that from 2006 to 2015 he never attended a meeting, I do not work I never in the region, did not participate in any conference and we only have seen when we meet face to face with tickets paid by ICANN. I do not like to be a provider of Internet services that for organizations working on consumer protection that is the enemy, who swindle us, other charges us, breach contracts, etc. Do Not I tell him to do that, just saying that represent entrepreneurs that for us. LACRALO is the space where end users participate and not companies. I would never put me to work in the space of enterprises, ISPs, registrars or registries, I expect the same from them. That's what I call respect. If they are NGOs, foundations or charities to meet with so-called corporate responsibility, have these organizations not It enables it to be an organization of users or may represent those interests, at most you can represent the interests of businesses ... not ours. Staff what is incomprehensible and other frustrating, I hope after that take time to explain to us what happened. It is not the first time that these things happen in the region, I have in my memory happened in 2009 ... That is my position. * Sergio Salinas Porto President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association of Internet Users <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / Fetia <http://www.fetia.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> Fluid Latin American Federation of Internet Users <http://www.fuilatin.org> facebook: salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> & sergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> Hangout: presidencia@internauta.org.ar <Hangout%3Apresidencia@internauta.org.ar> / Pixelhub: salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> Youtube: salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> Skype: internautaargentina Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * * "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano * [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/2f292cdf60.html --]] _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
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