Vanda, Dev, se agradecerá que circulen el documento que Dev encuentra problemático. El asunto descrito causa alarma. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Facultad de Química UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ Desde: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Vanda Scartezini [vanda@uol.com.br] Enviado el: miércoles, 12 de marzo de 2014 16:55 Hasta: Dev Anand Teelucksingh; At-Large Staff CC: Oscar Garcia; Sergio Salinas Porto; raulbauer@gmail.com; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía; Raul Bauer; LACRALO discussion list; sylvia@internautabrasil.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Reminder & DIAL OUT?/ LACRALO Governance WG 12.03.2014 Like your thoughts Dev. I am trying to arrive timely to attendŠ Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 From: Dev Teelucksingh <admin@ttcsweb.org> Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 at 18:54 To: ICANN Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> Cc: Gisella Gruber <Gisella.Gruber@icann.org>, sylvia leite <sylvia@internautabrasil.org>, Raul Bauer <raulbauer@yahoo.com.ar>, "raulbauer@gmail.com" <raulbauer@gmail.com>, Oscar Garcia <oscargarciacomtron@gmail.com>, Presidencia Internauta <presidencia@internauta.org.ar>, José Arce <josefranciscoarce@gmail.com>, Vanda Scartezini <vanda@uol.com.br>, "leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfs@fulton-fulton.com>, Juan Rojas <jumaropi@yahoo.com>, Dev Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com>, wladimir Dávalos <wladimirds@gmail.com>, LACRALO list <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: Reminder & DIAL OUT?/ LACRALO Governance WG 12.03.2014 Dear All, I don't think I will be able to attend this call. My apologies However, I've often linked to http://www.unescap.org/sites/default/files/good-governance.pdf and the opening summary "Good governance has 8 major characteristics. It is participatory, consensus oriented, accountable, transparent, responsive, effective and efficient, equitable and inclusive and follows the rule of law. It assures that corruption is minimized, the views of minorities are taken into account and that the voices of the most vulnerable in society are heard in decision-making. It is also responsive to the present and future needs of society." Given the proposals to date introduced on the last call, which in my opinion goes against good governance, I suggest that this document be translated by ICANN into Spanish so that the concepts in that document can be better read, understood and discussed. I have several proposals in mind, some include - introducing diversity requirements for chair and secretariat similar to current diversity requirements for the ALAC - introducing additional diversity requirements for the ALAC positions - allowing individuals or unaffiliated persons to be full members (with the same privileges) in LACRALO and will have more details on these in time for the next WG call. Kind Regards, Dev Anand On 12 March 2014 15:41, At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:

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From: At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> Date: Thursday, 27 February 2014 01:20 To: At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org>, Sylvia Herlein Leite <sylvia@internautabrasil.org>, Raul Bauer <raulbauer@yahoo.com.ar>, Raul Bauer <raulbauer@gmail.com>, Raul Bauer <raulbauer@yahoo.com.ar>, Oscar Garcia <oscargarciacomtron@gmail.com>, Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar>, José Francisco Arce <josefranciscoarce@gmail.com>, Vanda Scartezini <vanda@uol.com.br>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfs@fulton-fulton.com>, Juan Manuel Rojas <jumaropi@yahoo.com>, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com>, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <admin@ttcsweb.org>, Wladimir Davalos <wladimirds@gmail.com> Subject: DOODLE/ LACRALO Governance WG

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Disculpas, me refería al Grupo de Trabajo de Gobernanza de LACRALO (no de Internet). Fatima 2014-03-12 20:36 GMT-03:00 Fatima Cambronero <fatimacambronero@gmail.com>:

Alejandro, todos,

El documento al que se refiere Dev es un documento sobre el cual estuvimos trabajando para proponer modificaciones a los Principios Operativos de LACRALO actualmente vigentes. Esto es parte del Grupo de Trabajo de Gobernanza de Internet (sobre el que estuvimos trabajando específicamente Vanda, León y yo, sobre la base de un documento con varios puntos de acuerdo a los que habíamos arribado para la reunión de Costa Rica).

Este documento todavía está en proceso de discusión interna de este grupo de trabajo para acordar sobre estas propuestas de modificación, por lo que no entiendo por qué Dev en esta instancia, sin consultar con todo el grupo, lo envía a toda la lista. No hay ningún problema con circular este documento a toda la lista, solo que todavía estabamos esperando acordar sobre algunos puntos y además que esté lista la traducción de dicho documento al inglés. Esto fue solicitado al Staff aunque todavía no lo ha publicado.

Dev, cuando te refieres a los principios de la buena gobernanza, las características a las que te refieres se encuentran incluidas como una cláusula especial llamada "cláusula de interpretación", que obviamente todavía está abierto a discusión de todo el grupo.

El documento al que se refiere Dev se puede encontrar en el siguiente enlace: https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/PROPUESTA+DE+ENMIENDA+DE+PRINCIP...

Espero que haya clarificado esta cuestión.

Saludos cordiales, Fatima Cambronero

2014-03-12 20:12 GMT-03:00 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan@unam.mx>:

Vanda, Dev,

...

se agradecerá que circulen el documento que Dev encuentra problemático. El asunto descrito causa alarma.

Alejandro Pisanty

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Facultad de Química UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico

+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD

+525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

________________________________________ Desde: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Vanda Scartezini [vanda@uol.com.br] Enviado el: miércoles, 12 de marzo de 2014 16:55 Hasta: Dev Anand Teelucksingh; At-Large Staff CC: Oscar Garcia; Sergio Salinas Porto; raulbauer@gmail.com; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía; Raul Bauer; LACRALO discussion list; sylvia@internautabrasil.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Reminder & DIAL OUT?/ LACRALO Governance WG 12.03.2014

Like your thoughts Dev. I am trying to arrive timely to attendŠ Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464

From: Dev Teelucksingh <admin@ttcsweb.org> Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 at 18:54 To: ICANN Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> Cc: Gisella Gruber <Gisella.Gruber@icann.org>, sylvia leite <sylvia@internautabrasil.org>, Raul Bauer <raulbauer@yahoo.com.ar>, "raulbauer@gmail.com" <raulbauer@gmail.com>, Oscar Garcia <oscargarciacomtron@gmail.com>, Presidencia Internauta <presidencia@internauta.org.ar>, José Arce <josefranciscoarce@gmail.com>, Vanda Scartezini <vanda@uol.com.br>, "leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfs@fulton-fulton.com>, Juan Rojas <jumaropi@yahoo.com>, Dev Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com>, wladimir Dávalos <wladimirds@gmail.com>, LACRALO list <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: Reminder & DIAL OUT?/ LACRALO Governance WG 12.03.2014

Dear All,

I don't think I will be able to attend this call. My apologies

However, I've often linked to http://www.unescap.org/sites/default/files/good-governance.pdf

and the opening summary "Good governance has 8 major characteristics. It is participatory, consensus oriented, accountable, transparent, responsive, effective and efficient, equitable and inclusive and follows the rule of law. It assures that corruption is minimized, the views of minorities are taken into account and that the voices of the most vulnerable in society are heard in decision-making. It is also responsive to the present and future needs of society."

Given the proposals to date introduced on the last call, which in my opinion goes against good governance, I suggest that this document be translated by ICANN into Spanish so that the concepts in that document can be better read, understood and discussed.

I have several proposals in mind, some include

- introducing diversity requirements for chair and secretariat similar to current diversity requirements for the ALAC - introducing additional diversity requirements for the ALAC positions - allowing individuals or unaffiliated persons to be full members (with the same privileges) in LACRALO

and will have more details on these in time for the next WG call.

Kind Regards,

Dev Anand

On 12 March 2014 15:41, At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:

...

Please confirm your dial-out and preferred number to:

staff@atlarge.icann.org.

...

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número

...

preferido) o se unirá a través delcaudio Adobe Connect (Espanol).

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The LACRALO Governance WG conference call is scheduled for Wednesday 12 March 2014 at 2300 UTC

For other times: http://tinyurl.com/pt8l2bs

The draft agenda for this call details are available at: https://community.icann.org/x/KBbRAg

Adobe Connect: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo

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From: At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org> Date: Thursday, 27 February 2014 01:20 To: At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org>, Sylvia Herlein Leite <sylvia@internautabrasil.org>, Raul Bauer <raulbauer@yahoo.com.ar>, Raul Bauer <raulbauer@gmail.com>, Raul Bauer <raulbauer@yahoo.com.ar>, Oscar Garcia <oscargarciacomtron@gmail.com>, Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar>, José Francisco Arce <josefranciscoarce@gmail.com>, Vanda Scartezini <vanda@uol.com.br>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfs@fulton-fulton.com>, Juan Manuel Rojas <jumaropi@yahoo.com>, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com>, Dev Anand Teelucksingh < admin@ttcsweb.org>, Wladimir Davalos <wladimirds@gmail.com> Subject: DOODLE/ LACRALO Governance WG

Dear All,

Please complete the attached Doodle poll to schedule the next LACRALO Governance Working Group.

http://doodle.com/m2uv8drhm9wimwn2

Please note that we are in the process of setting up the mailing list for this group!

Thank you. Regards,

Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC

E-mail: staff@atlarge.icann.org

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