[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: = =?iso-8859-1?q?Recomiendo_lectura_RE=Á_Resumen _ =?iso-8859-1?q?de_lac-discuss-es=2C_Vol_11=2C_Env=EDo_5 = From: cristiancasas@hotmail.com I recommend to read the contributions on the final declaration of report IRT of the Dres Carlos Dionisio Aguirre - ALAC member LACRALO and of Dr Konstantinos Komaitis - these commentaries serve like introduction the subject for those who wish to have a base conceptual.https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?statement_of_the_alac_on_the_irt_s_... CRISTIAN CASAS-CETIC AJB > From: lac-discuss-it is -request@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Summary of lac-discuss-is, Vol 11, Shipment 5 > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:00:19 -0500 > > Envi'e the messages for the list lac-discuss-is a > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > to subscribe themselves or to annul its subscription throughthe WEB > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists... > > > Or by electronic mail, sending a message with the text "help" in > the subject (subject) or in body a: > lac-discuss-is -request@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Can contact with the person in charge of list writing a: > lac-discuss-is -owner@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > If it responds to some content of this message, please, publishes > line of the subject (subject) so that the text is but I specify that: > "Re: Contents of lac-discuss-is digest... ". In addition, please, itincludes > in the answ! er only those parts of the message to which it is > responding. > > > Subjects of the day: > > 1. Re: Term for the public commentary on IRT report > (carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm) > 2. Re: Term for the public commentary on IRT report > (Andres Piazza) > 3, commentaries public in Report of ITR: (Cristian Hernan Houses) > 4. Re: Term for the public commentary on IRT report > (langdonorr@gmail.com) > > > > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:25:34 -0700 > From: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > Subject: Re: Term for the public commentary on IRT report > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: <200907071825.n67IPYRV003223@mm2.icann.org> > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: Term for the public commentary on IRT report > Of: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > > Dear Colleagues: > If only because it offensive encounter to reason, I have raised before > now my strong opposition to the elements of the IRT report, specia! lly > this matter of global-protected marks. The university o! f thewes t > Indians ALS also have commentd out public to the consultation. > > Creo that would be instructive and to animate all LACRALO ALS goes a > wiki and endorses this declaration of joint ALAC-NCUC. > > good Respect, > Carlton Samuels > the university of Indians of the west > > In Tue, 7 of July of 2009 in 7:39, revealer Anand Teelucksingh > <admin@ttcsweb.org> it wrote: > > the common declaration on the report of IRT of ALAC and NCUC: > https://st.icann.org/gnso-liaison/index.cgi?joint_statement_on_the_irt_repor...; > Revealing T > > the Seat of Andres wrote: > > > > wanted everything, is today the term to present/display commentaries public in > > Report of ITR. This one is the connection: > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#irt-report > > you can remember that ALAC has been very active in Sydney(y before) on this, where this document was done: https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?s! tatement_of_the_alac_on_the_irt_s_final_report_al_alac_st_0609_1> > > > in fact, in the forum, the Cheryl (ALAC chair) and the robinpúblicos heavy (NCUC chair) provided to a declaration together >> > > I consider interesting of the advice provided by Carlos certain Aguirre (he has been insisting on this from the meeting of Paris, whennew GTLD were announced! >), that you will find in the commentaries in the connection which I fixed above. Personally and something of a legal perspective, I consider east advice as an alternative important to avoid legal conflicts > > > > during this week we provide to certain feedback of Sydney and work with the agenda > > > > Hot Respect, > > > > Seat of Andrés > > Chair of LACRALO > > _________________________________________________________________ > > stay updated in its PC, the Web, and its movable telephone with alive Windows > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT! /go/119462413/direct/01/ > > ___________________________! ________ ____________ > > list that sends lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists...; > _______________________________________________ > list that sends lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > lac-discuss-en@atlarge! > - lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/list! > info/lac > - discuss-en_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/a6c7788b4b.html > --]] > > > > > > > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:43:07 +0000 > From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Term for the public commentary on > IRT report > To: <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Message-ID: <SNT102-W128796C07A840CB206207AA4280@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-88! 59-1" > > > > > Dear Carlton. > > Agregue a commentary in wiki of the joint declaration (ALAC-NCUC) supporting it as much in a personal view as being President of LACRALO. > > For which they have not seen it, the connection is the following one (Dev put it in the today same list): > https://st.icann.org/gnso-liaison/index.cgi?joint_statement_on_the_irt_repor... > > Greetings > > Andrés Piazza > President of LACRALO > > > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:25:34 -0700 > > From: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > CC: > > Subject: Re: Term for the public commentary on IRT report > > > > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > > > > Subject: Re: Term for the public commentary on IRT report > > Of: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > > > > Dear Colleagues: > > If only because it offensive encounter to reason, I have raised before > > now my strong opp! osition to the elements of the IRT report, specially > > t! his matt er of global-protected marks. The university of the west > > Indians ALS also has commentd out public to the consultation. > > > > Creo that would be instructive and to animate all LACRALOALS goes a > > wiki and endorses this declaration of joint ALAC-NCUC. > > > > good Respect, > > Carlton Samuels > > the university of Indians of the west > > > > In Tue, 7 of July of 2009 in 7:39, revealer Anand Teelucksingh > > <admin@ttcsweb.org> it wrote: > > the common declaration on the report of IRT of ALAC and NCUC: > https://st.icann.org/gnso-liaison/index.cgi?joint_statement_on_the_irt_repor...; > Revealing T > > the Seat of Andres wrote: > > > > wanted everything, is today the term to present/display commentaries public in > > Report of ITR. This one is the connection: > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#irt-report > > you can remember that ALAC has been very ! active in Sydney(y before) on this, where this document was done: https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?statement_of_the_alac_on_the_irt_s_...; > > > in fact, in the forum, the Cheryl (ALAC chair) and the robinpúblicos heavy (NCUC chair) provided to a declaration together >> > > I consider interesting of the advice provided by Carlos certain Aguirre (he has been insisting on this from the meeting of Paris, whennew GTLD were announced! > >), that you will find in the commentaries in the connection which Ifixed above. Personally and something of a legal perspective, I consider east advice as an alternative important to avoid legal conflicts > > > > during this week we provide to certain feedback of Sydney and work with the agenda > > > > Hot Respect, > > > > Seat of Andrés > > Chair of LACRALO > > _________________________________________________________________ > > ! stay updated in its PC, the Web, and its movable telephone wit! h alive Windows > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > list that sends lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists...; > _______________________________________________ > list that sends lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > lac-discuss-en@atlarge! > > - lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/list! > > info/lac > > - discuss-en_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/a6c7788b4b.html > > --]] > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% to faster. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/H! otmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008 > > > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:35:13 -0300 > From: Cristian Hernan Houses <cristiancasas@hotmail.com> > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] commentaries public in Report of ITR: > To: <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Message-ID: <BLU111-W1192EB4E0AAEBC92A96D3CB5280@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > > gave the printing Me that the attached archives did not appear in the list of public discussion, by such reason shipment my opinions to commentaries public in > Report for ITR: > is due to put to defense to that, of good faith, a dominion registers that collides with a mark, since kind the amount of existingmarks, is probable that this situation of in more than an occasion > In these cases has been discussed if commercial use of the mark exists, being solved that in principle the fact to register a dominion name, to per, is not in the commercial use of the name, although can! be in a dilution form of the mark. Anyway the jurisprudence i! s not un iform since in the Intermatic.com case it was solved that the fact to register a dominion soon to try to commercialize constituted it?uso in the commerce? and therefore was one?infringement? tipificada by the Law of Marks. An express declaration is due to do about?uso in the commerce, like in the cases if the dominions will be object of single use or will keep for the sale the holder from the mark. > In case the dominion is registered but not used, is to say that there is not pagina Web lodged in the direction at issue, evidently will not be able to be judged the services that will distinguish. In this case hóminis could establecese a presumption that the registry of the dominion has been carried out of bad faith, is to say for its later commercialization to the holder of the mark. > The same if the case of a holder occurs who registers great amounts of dominions without an industrial activity or commercial he makes specific and that cannot justify its procedure. > Anyway we! understand that Argentine justice will incline to establish that the registry of a dominion is to per a commercial act and therefore can give rise to the marcaria infraction. Anyway, even though the registry is not a transaction commercial, if the same one is carried out of bad faith, is evident that he would be of application mentioned art. 24 (?conocía or had to know the existence the mark), art. 6 to ter of the Agreement of Paris (marks of the agent) or to go to art. 953 of the Civil.(fuente Code of study: The REGISTRY OF DOMINIONS OF Internet IN ARGENTINA(DOS QUESTIONS About theREGISTRY OF DOMINIONS OF Internet ACCORDING TO the VISION OF the JURISPRUDENCE ARGENTINA.)Autores:Gabriel Martinez Medrano, Lawyer and Masters in Right and Economy of the New Technologies, National University of Sea of the Silver and Masters in Industrial and Intellectual Property by the University of Alicante (España).GabrielaSoucasse. Lawyer and Agent of the Industrial Property (Argentina). Ma! sters in Industrial and Intellectual Property by the Universit! y of Ali cante (Spain). > > Creo that to request to him to a ONG to validate the existence of a mark once to the year is expensive, troublesome and bureaucratic. > the Center of intellectual property would have to make available of the operators in a minimum registry or without cost some. The operating conditions, specially in relation to the rates, would have to be clarified. The center of the intellectual property must be designed to diminish Costos.-Coincido and this one commentary of the citizenship seemed to me very intersante: ... Center of the intellectual property - ICANN nonpaper. ICANN the participation is notnecessary in the period of Clearinghouse investigation, that can be created and be financed by the holders of marks, the national offices of intellectual property or even the private sector. Mandate of the ICANN can be that the data provided by the operators of the registry to the public to gratuitous price of cost or to allow that the deprived sector to create the s! olution. G. Kirikos (6 of May of 2009).He would not be more appropriate for the ICANN like a technical coordination agency to postpone the authority and the control of the intellectual Property to a more suitable center and qualified international organization? This could also increase the potential that the use of the center of the intellectual property is approved inampler international. Palage M. (11 of May of 2009IP Clearinghouse - paper of ICANN in doubt. Why it would have to be the center of contracted by ICANN? What possibilities there are of the legal responsibility from the ICANN, and the costs associated for the defense that? Which is the global impact in the resources of the ICANNand the budget? They really fit within the ICANN mandate of the technical coordination? Is created another monopoly of the ICANN to manage? Why they are not going away to privatize and subjects to the competition already the forces of the market (he is really useful, effective, etc)? If ! the ICANN established initially through supplies of center or ! otherwis e, it must only have a not deprived temporary character in order that the center becomes totally independent and in more than two years. GoDaddy (6 of May of 2009) > CRISTIAN CASASCETIC-AJB > > > From: lac-discuss-it is -request@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Summary of lac-discuss-is, Vol 11, Shipment 4 > > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:00:16 -0500 > > > > Envi'e the messages for the list lac-discuss-is a > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > to subscribe themselves or to annul its subscription through the WEB > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists... > > > > > > Or by electronic mail, sending a message with the text "help" in > > the subject (subject) or in body a: > > lac-discuss-is -request@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Can contact with the person in charge of list writing a: > > lac-discuss-is -owner@! atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > If it responds to some content of this message, please, publishes > > line of the subject (subject) so that the text is but I specify that: > > "Re: Contents of lac-discuss-is digest... ". In addition, please, it includes > > in the answer only those parts of the message to which itis > > responding. > > > > > > Subjects of the day: > > > > 1. Re: Today Term (English) (admin@ttcsweb.org) > > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:40:31 -0700 > > From: admin@ttcsweb.org > > Subject: Re: Today Term (English) > > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Message-ID: <200907071240.n67CeVYF031312@mm2.icann.org> > > > > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > > > > Subject: Re: Today Term (English) > > Of: admin@ttcsweb.org > > > > the common declaration on the report of IRT of ALAC and NCUC: > > https://st.ic! ann.org/gnso-liaison/index.cgi?joint_statement_on_the_irt_repo! rt_from_ alac_and_ncuc > > > > Revealing T > > > > the Seat of Andres wrote: > > wanted everything, is todaythe term to present/display commentaries public in > Report of ITR. This one is the connection: > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#irt-report > > you can remember that ALAC has been very active in Sydney (and before) on this, where this document was done: https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?statement_of_the_alac_on_the_irt_s_...; > in fact, in the forum, the Cheryl (ALAC chair) and robin heavy public (NCUC chair) provided to a declaration together > > I consider interesting of the proporcionadopor advice certain Carlos Aguirre (it has been insisting on this from the meeting of Paris, when new GTLD were announced), that you will find in the commentaries in the connection which I fixed above. Personally and something of a legal perspective, I consider east advice as an alternative important to ! avoid legal conflicts > > during this week we provide to! > > certain feedback deSydney and we will work with the agenda > > HotRespect, > > Seat of Andrés > Chair of LACRALO > > _________________________________________________________________ > stay updated in its PC, the Web, and its teléfonomóvil with alive Windows > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > list that sends lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists... > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/cëde4bc35.html > > --]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mai! ling list > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > >! http:// atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > Aim of Summary of lac-discuss-is, Vol 11, Shipment 4 > > ************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ > east Enamorate winter with MSN Love and Friendship > http://amor.ar.msn.com/channel/index.aspx?trackingid=1004365 > > > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:46:33 -0700 > From: langdonorr@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Term for the public commentary on IRT report > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: Robin Gross <robin@ipjustice.org>, ICANN AtLarge Staff > <staff@atlarge.icann.org>, AT-Large Worldwide > <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Message-ID: <200907072046.n67KkXep005022@mm2.icann.org> > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: Term for the public commentary on IRT report > Of: langdonorr@gmail.com > > Is my plan (that I hope that ExCom endo ! in our meeting the next week, so > we can begin activity to formalize The sooner before the meeting of ALAC in the end > of this month) to take this (it atrévase say the signal tome) important common declaration > with the same endorsement and process of the vote that we did with the vario > Declarations of the summit... So that one becomes a piece of formal policy of ALAC > the then advice and sends to the CARD then advice of the ALAC that we can do > in any end in time but is useful as they consider losresultados of > ' roadshow ' of process re IRT that is on the verge of alsobeginning... This means that > whereas they do not alter the given text of common declaration by itself, we can add a > consolidates and makes ALAC the specific ends En-Grandes (e.g.agregue the specific one > endorsement of the etc. of THIN ALSes and) and cualquieres additional commentaries and > notes like appendices to ad hoc made work common in ICANN 35... > Also desire the entrance of! specific information of the WG of swimming pool IRT of the ta! lent tha t we joined so (* > can provide with personnel assure this leaves to that list *) also and will request that > ' of the common fields we installed for these activities, nosutilicemos for ' theEn-Grande commentary > period ' in him we can obtain so as much entrance of individual information as it is possible (in nobodies > language) that this said that it means the necessity of THIN and of ALSes to mobilize to obtain these > POV's adicionales/suplementarios ready to go... Also I willwrite to Robyn/ > NCUC formally lets them know what we are making cómonecesitamos do it and > that annexed work to the declaration can finish upon being associated to our end > Advice of ALAC to the card... > CLO (who will be absent of the office for a pair of days soof the acts of Vanda like > Chair of ALAC) > > > > 2009/7/8 Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm> > > Dear Colleagues: > if only because it offensive encounterto reason, there are levantadoantes >! now my strong opposition to the elements of the IRT report, specially > this matter of global-protected marks. The deloeste university > Indians ALS also hascommentd out public to the consultation > > I believe that they would be instructive and to animate all LACRALO ALS goes to > wiki and endorses this declaration of joint ALAC-NCUC. > > good respect, > Carlton Samuels > the university of Indians of the west > > in Tue, 7 of July of 2009 in 7:39, revealer Anand Teelucksingh > <admin@ttcsweb.org> it wrote: > > > > the common declaration on the report of IRTof ALAC and NCUC: > > > https://st.icann.org/gnso-liaison/index.cgi?joint_statement_on_the_irt_repor...; > > > Revealing T > > > > the Seat of Andres wrote: > > > > > > wanted everything, is today the term to present/display comentariospúblicos in > > > Report of ITR. Ést! > to is the connection: ! > > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#irt-rep! ort > > > you can remember that ALAC has been very active in Sydney (and before) > on this, where this document was done: > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?statement_of_the_alac_on_the_irt_s_...; > > > > > in fact, in the forum, the Cheryl (ALAC chair) and robin heavy public (NCUC > chair) provided a declaration together > > > > > > I consider interesting of the advice provided by Carlos certain > Aguirre (it has been insisting on this from reuniónde Paris, when newGTLD > was announced), that that you will find in the commentaries in the connection I fixed > above. Personally and something of a legal perspective, I consider east advice > as alternative important to avoid legal conflicts > > > > > > during this week we will provide tocertain feedback of Sydney and > having worked c! > on the agenda > > > > > > Hot Respect, > >! > > >! ; > > > Seat of Andrés > > > Chair of LACRALO > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > stay updated in its PC, the Web, and its movable telephone with Windows > lives > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/>; > > _______________________________________________ > > > list that sends lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > > > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists...; > > > _______________________________________________ > > list that sends lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists...; > _______________________________________________ > list that sends lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > lac-discu! ss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.i! cann.org /mailm! > an/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > -- > Cheryl Langdon-Orr > (CLO) > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/9bed9de1a3.html > --]] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists... > > > Aim of Summary of lac-discuss-is, Vol 11, Shipment 5 > ************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Free Internet optimized Explorer 8 for MSN http://www.ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/es-ar/ie8.aspx _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/b616fc5722.html --]]