Re: [lac-discuss-en] =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Convocatoria_de_candidaturas_para? == Iso-8859-1? Q? _la_LACRALO_Presidente_y_la_Secretar = EDa_para_2012-? == Iso-8859-1? Q? 2013? =
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Convocatoria_de_candidaturas_para? == Iso-8859-1? Q? _la_LACRALO_Presidente_y_la_Secretar = EDa_para_2012-? == Iso-8859-1? Q? 2013? = From: fatimacambronero@gmail.com Cintra, For IF yoU a little lost in the discussion list LACRALO, makes more one-hour enviun mail with explanations. Pods found in the file of the version in Spanish LACRALO: http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-es/2012/003966.html and the version in English http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2012/005284.html If the machine translation does not serve you, USEL translator of your choice. In this estadjuntado mail a document in. Pdf and in addition comparttbNL> the link from where you download pods: http://www.box.com/s/kvd3e57po1tzkykp5jz0 I refer to this mail, where I explain that this document, in accordance with the requirements secrete LACRALO must be part of the proposed amendment to the Operating Principles LACRALO, so I request to arbitrate all means to achieve its Translation An inside period as he himself held: Monday March 5, 2012. When you read the full explanation, you'll understand that this proposal, no is part of the Working Group Modification of Operating Principles, but only a proposal submitted by a group of delegates from ALS LACRALO. If you're not adhered to this proposal, you send yours pods, to the time provided by the secreted, ie, on Monday, March 5. So far I saw only challenges to the only proposal submitted, but I see no one has sent any other. I hope that the document acompaado can understand all that so far there are clear entendsy you at last. Regards, Fatima 2012/3/4 <cintra.sooknanan@gmail.com>
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Asunto: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Convocatoria_de_candidaturas_para? == Iso-8859-1? Q? _la_LACRALO_Presidente_y_la_Secretar = EDa_para_2012-? == Iso-8859-1? Q? 2013? = De: cintra.sooknanan@gmail.com
Sí, es muy interesante Jacqueline,
Todavía estoy esperando con ansiedad una respuesta de Fátima, el escritor de las propuestas y el proponente de la Sylvia. Ambos de los cuales estaban al tanto de otros propuestas del Grupo de Trabajo.
Me parece que es inaceptable e insuficiente para decir "modificar las propuestas, si desea "en este momento tantos días después del engaño fue establecido y tan cerca a nuestra fecha límite.
Con la fe en un lacralo más brillante,
Cintra
El Sol, 04 de marzo 2012 a las 9:04 PM, Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> escribió:
I'm confused by all these references to working in secret. Is this a translation issue, or as Cintra indicated in her email this morning, a plan to deliberately sideline some members of the LACRALO? All these comments are tending to make me think there are some real shady activities going on in LACRALO? As far as I know, the rules are there, and even if they were suspended, ignored or broken in 2009, why should we continue doing the wrong thing in 2012?
Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann )
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 7:53 PM, <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:
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Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Convocatoria_de_candidaturas_para? ==
Iso-8859-1? Q? _la_LACRALO_Presidente_y_la_Secretar = EDa_para_2012-? == Iso-8859-1? Q? 2013? =
From: asoto@ibero-americano.org
Dear Dev and all
Dev, this is a paragraph shall send for you, "Asel artculo 13 is especfico with respect to the choice of representatives LACRALO required a two months' notice before any LACRALO Assembly convened for elect representatives of LACRALO. Given that The term of one year of the President and secrete ending April 14, 2012, the call for applications must have started before mid- February 2012 in LACRALO distribution list, but with the LACRALO planning of events in Costa Rica, this call does not was made. "
In fact, if The term of President and Secretary expires on 14 March 2012, according to these articles the choice should call for having made by the Secretary before February 9, 2012.And was not breach of the provisions of the ROP. If requested by the choice hubiramos the AG in Costa Rica, Cundo had made the choice? Despus of the date of term?
Also I have seen several comments requesting compliance with the rules, and including a possible veto According the last conference call, which only I will join Adobe and haltingly because of bad communication in my home. Unattested it were not veto or by whom. Also comments on misrepresentations mails or work in secret.
In principle, I am attached to the rules, and therefore particularly I demand. I see that in the General Assembly of Mxico not filled in so, now the call for elections of President and Secretary, either. In turn we ask flexibilizacin so they can register two LAs than most think that should not be released. And estexigiendo the compliance, but to the letter. There an obvious contradiction ... Really, I insist, I'm stuck to the rules, but to require must first be met and became aquno or esthaciendo.No groups working in secret or misrepresenting things, only people working, setting an example to other members of the LAs. Pro other hand, there another course of action, require no foundation and unfulfilled, really removes the desire to work. And that was not settled with a session of concientizacino knowledge with us in Costa Rica. Only conducciny transparent management in the example, must motivation for it. I think they've completed all the orders that had secreted done, and I would like to see this track in a good way, not intiles confrontations and hostile comments that do not lead absolutely nothing. If this is ace, I have thought about my trip and desist from removing the Institute as ALS. I want to work, I will not discuss intilmente and no results. And really want to get, for the sake of Internet users, not by us. Best Regards
Alberto Soto Director IIISI
----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of devtee@gmail.com Posted on: Sunday, March 4, 2012 1:05 a.m. To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Call for nominations for President and LACRALO Secreted for 2012-2013
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Subject: Call for nominations for President and LACRALO Secreted for 2012-2013 From: devtee@gmail.com
Hi all,
According to the Organization of LACRALO Documents ( https://community.icann.org/x/Oo0i), LACRALO and secrete LACRALO is one year each. The terms of the current president and secrete LACRALO finalizarel April 15, 2012.
The current president is JosFrancisco LACRALO Maple Ageia Densi Argentina's current LACRALO is secreted Teelucksingh of Dev Anand Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society
If there is any representative of an ALS accredited LACRALO vlidas that wishes are for either - The president of LACRALO. or - The position of secreted LACRALO,
ENVE an email to the Secretariat in admin@ttcsweb.org.
Note: In accordance with the Rules of Procedure of the LACRALO, nominations will be accepted by a period minimum of 4 weeks from the date of the call for Nominations, with the choice that no tendrlugar within 48 hours after the expiry of 8 weeks from the date of the call for nominations. (Rules 13.1, 13.2, 13.3)
However, a GA was carried out LACRALO for the ingathering of ICANN Costa Rica, Wednesdays from March 14, 2012.
Several ALS have expressed their intention to submit motions to the Assembly General allow the election of President and secrete LACRALO to take place during the General Assembly. If these motions are approved by the Assembly then presented the list of candidates considered for this type choice.
---
Best regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat
_______________________________________________
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Thank you for your clarification Fatima. You are right, the translation of your last email did not serve me well and also the documents you have sent are in spanish (even the english link) so I will try to download, pray that the translation is accurate and read. I am disappointed that your proposals did not capture everything the Working Group discussed, but only parts. I must admit that there was some expectation from me, that you and Sylvia (being intimately knowledgeable of the WG proposals and also being core members of the WG) would make the representations and inform the Ralo accurately of the work done especially as we have spent so much time discussing these by laws. I apologise for making this assumption. The 5 March deadline is upon us and even if this is a missed opportunity, I hope we will make the working group's proposals known and solicit comments from the rest of Lacralo before the GA. Regards Cintra On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:36 PM, <fatimacambronero@gmail.com> wrote:
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Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Convocatoria_de_candidaturas_para? == Iso-8859-1? Q? _la_LACRALO_Presidente_y_la_Secretar = EDa_para_2012-? == Iso-8859-1? Q? 2013? = From: fatimacambronero@gmail.com
Cintra,
For IF yoU a little lost in the discussion list LACRALO, makes more one-hour enviun mail with explanations. Pods found in the file of the version in Spanish LACRALO: http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-es/2012/003966.html and the version in English http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2012/005284.html
If the machine translation does not serve you, USEL translator of your choice.
In this estadjuntado mail a document in. Pdf and in addition comparttbNL> the link from where you download pods: http://www.box.com/s/kvd3e57po1tzkykp5jz0
I refer to this mail, where I explain that this document, in accordance with the requirements secrete LACRALO must be part of the proposed amendment to the Operating Principles LACRALO, so I request to arbitrate all means to achieve its Translation An inside period as he himself held: Monday March 5, 2012.
When you read the full explanation, you'll understand that this proposal, no is part of the Working Group Modification of Operating Principles, but only a proposal submitted by a group of delegates from ALS LACRALO. If you're not adhered to this proposal, you send yours pods, to the time provided by the secreted, ie, on Monday, March 5. So far I saw only challenges to the only proposal submitted, but I see no one has sent any other.
I hope that the document acompaado can understand all that so far there are clear entendsy you at last.
Regards,
Fatima
2012/3/4 <cintra.sooknanan@gmail.com>
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Asunto: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Convocatoria_de_candidaturas_para? == Iso-8859-1? Q? _la_LACRALO_Presidente_y_la_Secretar = EDa_para_2012-? == Iso-8859-1? Q? 2013? = De: cintra.sooknanan@gmail.com
Sí, es muy interesante Jacqueline,
Todavía estoy esperando con ansiedad una respuesta de Fátima, el
escritor
de las propuestas y el proponente de la Sylvia. Ambos de los cuales estaban al tanto de otros propuestas del Grupo de Trabajo.
Me parece que es inaceptable e insuficiente para decir "modificar las propuestas, si desea "en este momento tantos días después del engaño fue establecido y tan cerca a nuestra fecha límite.
Con la fe en un lacralo más brillante,
Cintra
El Sol, 04 de marzo 2012 a las 9:04 PM, Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> escribió:
I'm confused by all these references to working in secret. Is this a translation issue, or as Cintra indicated in her email this morning, a plan to deliberately sideline some members of the LACRALO? All these comments are tending to make me think there are some real shady activities going on in LACRALO? As far as I know, the rules are there, and even if they were suspended, ignored or broken in 2009, why should we continue doing the wrong thing in 2012?
Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann )
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 7:53 PM, <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Convocatoria_de_candidaturas_para? ==
Iso-8859-1? Q? _la_LACRALO_Presidente_y_la_Secretar = EDa_para_2012-? == Iso-8859-1? Q? 2013? =
From: asoto@ibero-americano.org
Dear Dev and all
Dev, this is a paragraph shall send for you, "Asel artculo 13 is especfico with respect to the choice of representatives LACRALO required a two months' notice before any LACRALO Assembly convened for elect representatives of LACRALO. Given that The term of one year of the President and secrete ending April 14, 2012, the call for applications must have started before mid- February 2012 in LACRALO distribution list, but with the LACRALO planning of events in Costa Rica, this call does not was made. "
In fact, if The term of President and Secretary expires on 14 March 2012, according to these articles the choice should call for having made by the Secretary before February 9, 2012.And was not breach of the provisions of the ROP. If requested by the choice hubiramos the AG in Costa Rica, Cundo had made the choice? Despus of the date of term?
Also I have seen several comments requesting compliance with the rules, and including a possible veto According the last conference call, which only I will join Adobe and haltingly because of bad communication in my home. Unattested it were not veto or by whom. Also comments on misrepresentations mails or work in secret.
In principle, I am attached to the rules, and therefore particularly I demand. I see that in the General Assembly of Mxico not filled in so, now the call for elections of President and Secretary, either. In turn we ask flexibilizacin so they can register two LAs than most think that should not be released. And estexigiendo the compliance, but to the letter. There an obvious contradiction ... Really, I insist, I'm stuck to the rules, but to require must first be met and became aquno or esthaciendo.No groups working in secret or misrepresenting things, only people working, setting an example to other members of the LAs. Pro other hand, there another course of action, require no foundation and unfulfilled, really removes the desire to work. And that was not settled with a session of concientizacino knowledge with us in Costa Rica. Only conducciny transparent management in the example, must motivation for it. I think they've completed all the orders that had secreted done, and I would like to see this track in a good way, not intiles confrontations and hostile comments that do not lead absolutely nothing. If this is ace, I have thought about my trip and desist from removing the Institute as ALS. I want to work, I will not discuss intilmente and no results. And really want to get, for the sake of Internet users, not by us. Best Regards
Alberto Soto Director IIISI
----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of devtee@gmail.com Posted on: Sunday, March 4, 2012 1:05 a.m. To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Call for nominations for President and LACRALO Secreted for 2012-2013
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Subject: Call for nominations for President and LACRALO Secreted for 2012-2013 From: devtee@gmail.com
Hi all,
According to the Organization of LACRALO Documents ( https://community.icann.org/x/Oo0i), LACRALO and secrete LACRALO is one year each. The terms of the current president and secrete LACRALO finalizarel April 15, 2012.
The current president is JosFrancisco LACRALO Maple Ageia Densi Argentina's current LACRALO is secreted Teelucksingh of Dev Anand Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society
If there is any representative of an ALS accredited LACRALO vlidas that wishes are for either - The president of LACRALO. or - The position of secreted LACRALO,
ENVE an email to the Secretariat in admin@ttcsweb.org.
Note: In accordance with the Rules of Procedure of the LACRALO, nominations will be accepted by a period minimum of 4 weeks from the date of the call for Nominations, with the choice that no tendrlugar within 48 hours after the expiry of 8 weeks from the date of the call for nominations. (Rules 13.1, 13.2, 13.3)
However, a GA was carried out LACRALO for the ingathering of ICANN Costa Rica, Wednesdays from March 14, 2012.
Several ALS have expressed their intention to submit motions to the Assembly General allow the election of President and secrete LACRALO to take place during the General Assembly. If these motions are approved by the Assembly then presented the list of candidates considered for this type choice.
---
Best regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat
_______________________________________________
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