Be my guest and propose something constructive. Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez _____________________ email: crg@isoc-cr.org Skype: carlos.raulg +506 8837 7173 (cel) +506 4000 2000 (home) +506 2290 3678 (fax) _____________________ Apartado 1571-1000 San Jose, COSTA RICA

On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Roosevelt King <rok@bango.org.bb> wrote:

Really? LACRALO under scrutiny? And this is how they behave? And whose face would Lance be saving f he participates? This is not something to sweep under the carpet. If ICANN cannot properly manage this, then it deserves to be under scrutiny. This behaviour did not start today. This is years. How long will it continue?

The Ombudsman is less than becoming in his dealings with the issue of governance and interpretation of the rules in relation to LACRALO over the years. There is no justice for us in ICANN, so let the scrutiny begin.

ROK   <> From: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 17:20 To: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> Cc: LACRALO discussion list <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Nomination of the LACRALO representative to the ALAC

Lance, I voted the first round for you I was happy to see you again in the list and I´m sitting here waiting for the call

I don’t like the idea of you pulling out last minute ICANN is under close scrutiny of the WHOLE WORLD right now If there is something that didn´t go well, we will wait until we can fix it.

Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez _____________________

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On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com>> wrote:

Lance: I totally understand this decision and applaud your stand for principle.

I am now convinced the electoral process was hijacked. And we are asked to accept it was a result of ignorance of the rules. The intent is for us only to pity the result achieved under colour of ignorance.

That is not acceptable to The University of the West Indies and on this record, that objective is summarily rejected.

When the general assembly - the election - is called, I shall, on a point of order, offer a motion of no confidence in the LACRALO leadership with all of the supporting details.

Kindest regards, -Carlton Samuels

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On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Lance Hinds <brainstreetceo@gmail.com <mailto:brainstreetceo@gmail.com>> wrote:

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Dear All,

Let me first sincerely thank Jose Arce for nominating me and my friend Antonio Media Gomez for supporting this nomination. After some deep reflection and soul searching however I wish to advise Staff and the membership that I will not seek election as LACRALO's representative to the ALAC.

I believe firmly that if a process for nomination and election has been established it should be followed. The fact it can be upturned because persons did not participate in a timely manner is something I continue to find deeply distressing. I am also not prepared to be accused further of a conflict of interest because I engage in a business activity for my livelihood that has nothing to do with my long term interest and commitment to this RALO.

I have seen the requirements for being an ALAC representative and know I meet and indeed exceed those requirements. I have demonstrated that I have collaborated to my at-large colleagues regardless of location or language. I still feel, however, that the rollout of this process, was in the end, a subversion of the very democratic process we have committed to uphold in LACRALO and ICANN as a whole.

I am now convinced that the Caribbean Constituency face and will continue, an extraordinary challenge in being selected for regional service. Someone else may be willing to fight this fight. I however cannot summon the energy to contest in an election that I have already won. I wish all the candidates in this election the very best as they seek to represent “LA RALO”.

My very best regards

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What is there to understand? In cases where there is only one nomination, confirmation of the nomination is not necessary. To allow this confirmation is unfair in itself. However, if it is allowed under the circumstances where the entire constituency is present, then it cannot be a simple first past the post of those voting. It should be determined the quota of votes to nullify the confirmation and those votes should be half plus one of the entire constituency. In other words more than half the constituency should vote against the candidate. It should also be noted that abstentions are not votes against the candidate. This is how we do it globally at meetings and within organisations. It is therefore bizarre that a decision to hold over the process could be arrived at. The process should only be abandoned when it cannot be saved. You are the ombudsman and hence you should know that in law, if a situation can be saved, then it is the duty of the officer to save the situation. Furthermore it is a waste of time telling me that you do not have legal jurisdiction. If that were so, how could you determine that the process should go over? Hence, to abandon the process when it could have been saved is to help perpetrate an injustice. The results were clear, but it would seem that certain people do not want to see any Caribbean reps within LACRALO and of course the ombudsman helped them along. Where is the justice for the Caribbean? ROK From: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Chris LaHatte Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2015 17:32 To: 'LACRALO discussion list' <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Nomination of the LACRALO representative to the ALAC I think you need to understand the role of the Ombudsman in this situation. I do not have judicial authority to rule on whether or not an election was fair or not. My jurisdiction is limited to issues of fairness within the ICANN community. So if something occurs during the course of an election which is unfair, then I do have the power to investigate and recommend changes. I cannot order anything to be done. I only ever suggest that something be changed. In the context of the first election, where there was a dispute over the fairness, the only alternative was to run the election again. That was my recommendation, although I believe it was generally accepted, albeit reluctantly, as the best way to review what had happened. In terms of representation of the Caribbean constituency, there is clearly a divide between the different groups as to representation. It would not be appropriate for me to comment on an ongoing process, until the process is completed. If the process was again found to be unfair, I could then recommend some further action. I am always ready to try to mediate between the different groups so that instead of the present distrust and disharmony, LACRALO could address some of the significant issues such as the IANA transition and accountability. But of members of the constituency think I should be doing something else, then please reach out to me, in confidence if you wish. Regards Chris LaHatte Ombudsman Blog https://omblog.icann.org/ Webpage http://www.icann.org/en/help/ombudsman Confidentiality All matters brought before the Ombudsman shall be treated as confidential. The Ombudsman shall also take all reasonable steps necessary to preserve the privacy of, and to avoid harm to, those parties not involved in the complaint being investigated by the Ombudsman.The Ombudsman shall only make inquiries about, or advise staff or Board members of the existence and identity of, a complainant in order to further the resolution of the complaint. The Ombudsman shall take all reasonable steps necessary to ensure that if staff and Board members are made aware of the existence and identity of a complainant, they agree to maintain the confidential nature of such information, except as necessary to further the resolution of a complaint