Dear Alejandro:You show a keen understanding of my views. Since the campaigning takes place in the ALAC, we would like to see our representatives given the room and positioned to cajole support for our favoured candidate even as we minimize alienating a prospective vote. I am absolutely certain that some serious campaigning is taking place, directly and indirectly. And in my view, you don't turn up at a gunfight with a knife. What I'm suggesting is that even as we campaign, we bear in mind that there are relatively few votes in play. And I rather suspect that these are likely more readily influenced by quiet one-to-one engagements by our representatives to sell the consensus in LACRALO. Best, Carlton On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM, <apisan@servidor.unam.mx> wrote:

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Carlton,

I agree pleanmente in not seeming parochial.

It seems to have total consensus as far as Vanda; to support requires more it than to give instructions or to vote by her. It is necessary to campaign; it is necessary to go with the other voting organizations and to expose its case. Althoughshe is well-known globally, in other regions not thorough soon appreciated its merits.

As far as the second candidate, I recognize many merits to him Allan, but I am not prepared to support it without one more a detailed dicusión of his person or race, and of its proposals and positions.

Alternative Comom I incline much more by Sébastien Bachollet, that also it is being proposed in other regions.

Sébastian far better knows the reality ICANN. It has made studies and works in different positions from the foundation nmisma from ICANN; it made technical and organizacionales studies about the first programof new gTLDs (a posteriori and like part of the preparations of second call, the one of 2003). It knows extensively what it happens around DNS, as much at technical level, as of civil socaiedad, like of businesses. It knows depth the European positions French and on the GAC, ICANN, and the JPA. And it has shown significant dowries of organizer.

Esteem much to Allan cfcreo Greenberg but that in all the aspects mentioned, that is vital for the function of that we are speaking, Sebastien is much more competent and esetá prepared to conduct battle immediately. And it is not that he has not been critical with respect to the system.

Warm greeting.

Alexander Pisanty

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico

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* They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm wrote:

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D? = > Of: carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm > > the wanted observations of Colleagues:Jacquelinés are well worthy of our reflection. > Our last objective is the best possible connection of the card paratodo En-Grande. > For the file, I believe that Alan is and that he continues being Canadian. >

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is not unusual so that the LACQUER supports to a North American for the connection of the card. > Afterall, Wendy was chosen with the aid of the LACQUER. The editing ahoraes that we > has two qualified candidates due name eminently, one outside > region. And whereas we would have a natural affinity for a candidate of ours > region, degrades our candidate if we give to the printing quela we supported > purely in regional solidarity. The knowledge and the experience of Vanda are more > that that. So bad political judgment would be and worse. It stops in the end > and comes to the vote, LACRALO can only command to 2 15 votes of how a > vote. We needed to construct collaborations and al!

liances ifour position > prevails. And now it is not a good sh! ort whil e to appear parochial to the rest of > world. > > This has been what for many of sense I. > > Carlton Samuels > > > 2009/9/17 Matías Altamira < matias@altamiragigena.com.ar> > > Jackie, > > I know that the chosen person will represent all we > > my only end is since both candidates are very well to have described, we like one > part of theEn-Grande world who represent the necessity of Latin America and > the users of the Caribbean of the Internet, proposes and adheres to the Latin American person > that is executing for that position > > after our supply, ALAC will have the task of decidirquién is the candidate > and our LACRALO Reps in ALAC before voting will have an understanding clear > of ours to want > > more more good possible, > > Representing Matías > of IIISI. > > > > Matías Altamira > Lawyer > ALTAMIRA GIGENA - Legal Study > Bv. San Juan 101 Floor 2° "To" > Cordova - Republic Argentina > t!

elephone: +54351 4281624 - 4257923 > to matias@altamiragigena.com.ar> to www.altamiragigena.com.ar > > Original message > of: lac-discuss-in-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto: lac-discuss-in-bounces@atlarge-lists.! > icann.org ] to name of > Jacqueline To Morris > sent: Thursday, 17 of September Of 2009 3:06 P.M. > a: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > subject: Re: > [ lac-discuss-en]=?iso-8859-1?q?Recordatorio=Á_Candidatos_de_LAC > = =?iso-8859-1?q?RALO_for=3D=3Fx-unknown=3FQ=3Fposici=3DF3n_=3D_de_l = >=?iso-8859-1?q?a_conexi=F3n_de_la_tarjeta_de_ALAC = > > the person whois chosen by the ALAC whereas enlacede the card must be to > representing of the GLOBAL one in great, and not of LACQUER or EU or NA or AFRI > or > AP. To me, this class of thought is to have matteredvery parochial and narrow, and > will probably not lead to a decision that is in losmejores interests of great ALAC > and > > es!

teem the ends of Alex re its aid of Vanda, but I reiterate tha! t > & gt; the LACRALOdocument can enumerate multiple names, yel EURALO has in fact > already put under 2-name that enumerated to the ALAC. > > is not either/or. > > once again in view of the number of candidates in the selection! >, almost is > safe that there will be no a clear winner in prioritizes it! > ra balot > to, and > the process of the selection that is used by the ALAC requires that the members of ALAC > who > will vote choose to MORE of a candidate in the ballot > > Jacqueline > > Original message > of: lac-discuss-in-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto: lac-discuss-in-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] to name of > amedinagomez@gmail.com > sent: Thursday, the 17 Of September 2009 01:04 of P.M. > a: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Recordatorio=Á_Candidatos_de_LAC = > =?iso-8859-1?q?RALO_for=3D=3Fx-unknown=3FQ=3Fposici=3DF3n_=3D_de_l = >=?iso-8859-1?q?a_conexi=F3n_de!

_la_tarjeta_de_ALAC = > > > [ [ - - translated text (is - >)--]] of in > > > subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Recordatorio=A_Candidatos_de_LAC = > =?iso-8859-1?q?RALO_for=3D=3Fx-unknown=3FQ=3Fposici=3DF3n_=3D_de_l = >=?iso-8859-1?q?a_conexi=F3n_de_la_tarjeta_de_ALAC = > of: amedinagomez@gmail.com > > I believe that the vector is relatedin excellent of several aspects same > for análi! > sis. The supply of ACUI in the sense that thename that it suggests of > Vanda Scartezini so that he is our representative in the card of Icann, he > comtempla its excellent professional formation, that makes> exceptional stops to make of impeccable way this task noble, and specially because he > counts on the knowledge and the experience for solucionarproblemas in a scene > complex, like mentions of Alexander Pisanty.Y without the doubt, no we broad nor we > must let to the stepthe opportunity have representantede Latin America and > the!

Caribbean, in the card of Icann. This has an interpretation o! f > t he significant importance for our ALS and has great sense, when > is regional the development one is. Also they please to me the words of Matmas Altamira and > I congratulate it, because the written being he has been very exact in his > esteems > hot greeting > Antonio Medina Go'mez > president > Colombian association of users of the I! > nternet. ACUI. > > the 16 of September of 2009 19:35, Alexand! > er Pisan > ty < > apisan@servidor.unam.mx > escribió: > > Jackie, > > thanks for the thousands by this explanation > >Sostengo that > the management of Wendy has been deletirea for ALAC; previously > I have discussed > with the detail the successes of the managements of the a that > previously took > to the voice from En-Grande and generalusers from > Internet to > card, like Vittorio Bertola and Roberto Gaetano, > independently of > the formal titles that had in their positions > > I have had opport!

unity, > for example in the meeting of ICANN no. 34, in > city of Mexico, to discuss > directly with Wendy and encounterlittle > productive their positions prefixed > and of a very near row > > thus not only I consider necessary to use > an effective candidate but > to do it of the decisive way that it allows to return > to give effectiveness, > representation, capacity to solve to problems in a > complex context, > buys! > nsión of the aspects técnicosde the problems > that face in > ICANN, and other characteristics in the cualesconsidero that > > Vanda is one > crystalized! > date proven in multiple battles and with superior mirtios. > > for that > reason I believe that our aid to Vanda is due to decide, open, > > jeopardizes and veryactive > > hot greeting > > Alexander Pisanty > >. >. >. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av Un!

iversity. 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. > +5! 2-(1)-55 -5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * my blog of blog/My: > http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * you promarry of LinkedIn towards outside: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: > http://twitter.com/apisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > >http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/B106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, > http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * participates inside > ICANN, > http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . ... . . . . >. > > > > > in Wed, the 16 of sept! > 2009 jam@jacquelinemorris.com wrote: > > date: Wed, 16 > Sept 2009 Of 17:29:24 -0700 > > Of: jam@jacquelinemorris.com > > > Contestar-A: lacquer-discuss - es@atlarge! > - lists.icann.org > > a: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann! > org > and > gt; Subject: Re: Reminder: Candidates of LACRALO [ x-not known ] > > > for=?x-unknown?Q?posici=F3n =!

of the connection [ x-not known ] of thecard > > > > of > > > > ALAC > > > > > > [ [ - - text translated (in -> > is)--]] > > > > > > subject: Re: Reminder: Candidatosde > LACRALO for=?x-unknown?Q?posici=F3n > > = of the connection of the ALAC > card> > of: jam@jacquelinemorris.com> > > > really no, since then > Wendyhas been known by EURALO and has validated > > we can anywhere use > any person within the world, and ALAC > > will make their decision > we can also send no!

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mbresmzltiplesfront - no > > we needed to send single! > mind > > one > > correcting re member and connects of the advice alsowas > clarify > > previous - the position NOW is connection. Positin of > the card will be > > classified more next - there are many of thematter to be > solved before > > the seat of the card of AtLarge really is put ins!

ide > > execution > > Espere that this h! > elps &! gt; > Jacqueline > > sent of my device® without the cords of spiral of > > zarzamora available of > > bmobile. > > > > original message > > > > of: apisan@servidor.unam.mx > > > > date: Wed, the 16 Of Sept. Of 2009> of > 17:06:19 > >: <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > subject: > re: [ lacquer-discuss-lacquer-discuss-in ] reminder: Candidates > > > deLACRALO > for > > =?x-unknown?Q?posici=F3n = of theconnection of the ALAC card > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - translated text (is - >)--]] of in > > > > > > > subject: Re: Reminder: Candidates of the LACRALO shutdown > > > =?x-unknown?Q?posici=F3n = ofthe connection of the card deALAC > > of: > apisan@servidor.unam.mx > > > > hello, > > > > if > > the requirement is regional, he requests only Vanda, is not > > surely? > > !

> > > also I understand that posicisnde one is discusiónsobre > change of > > of the connection ("it connects") to one of > member > > directory of ofthe (card! >). I create > > that > > untilinterior as much that she i! ficial > s not of >, is necessary to do this > > the selection > > > > > > > > Andris, you can clarify it totally? > > > > Agrego that seems me > that useless she is the ideal person to do > > this > > task and > endorsement totally its postulation if the same one comes >> > > > > warms up > Slaudo to all > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > >. . . . >. >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > > > UNAM, University Of the American System of pesos. 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > Tels. > +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > &!

gt; > * my blog of > blog/My: http://pisanty.blogspot.co! m > & gt; * Procases de outer LinkedIn towards >: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > * Twitter: > http://twitter.com/apisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > >> > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/B106C0C8614<; > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gi > s/22285/%C3%82106C0C8614 > > > > > * > Ve ISOC Mexico, > > http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.o! > rg > > * participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > >. . . . . . >. >. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > > > in Wed, the 16 > of > sept. 2009 admin@ttcsweb.org wrote: > date: Wed, > > 16 Of Sept. Of 2009 > 16:59:22 Of -0700 > Of: admin@ttcsweb.org > > > Contestar-A: > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > a: > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > subject: Re: Reminder: > > > candidates of LACRALO for the position [ x-not known ] > of > connection >!

> of the ALAC card > > > [ [ - - the text translated > (in - > is > >)--]] > > > subject: Re: Reminder: Candidates > of the LACRALO shutdown > > laposicisn of the connection of the ALAC card > >of: > > admin@ttcsweb.org > > wished all, > > today, > LACRALO > needs> > to put under the list of nombr! > is of the candidates to the ALAC card > > of > > Liasion to the public TheEn-Grande list. Hastaesto > > moment, > > loscandidatos that > has been the u! > thirstnames and in this list it is: > > > > Vanda Scartezin! > i > To > the LAN Greenberg > > more information is > > available in > > paginations of the call of selectionof LACRALO:! > > > > > > https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?2009_election_call_lacralo_en>more > next >, LACRALO will endorse these appointments formally > > > > > > Anand!

that reveals the secretariat of Teelucksingh > deLACRALO! ! > > ; > > > > > > revealer Anand Teelucksingh wrote: > Deseo ' > all: > > > > LACRALO must up to 15 of September of 2009 endorse > and > puts under list of > > > the names of the candidates to the increase > of > theconnection of ALAC that > > represents the ALAC and > > En-Grande-Grande-Grande-Grande > in the level of the cardof > > ICANN. > > of how the connection > the ALAC card will be chosen: > > > > the ALAC adopted > slightly the amended process of theselection for > > > connects dela card > according to specified by process2009 of the connection of > > the card > > > (> > https://st.icann! > org/alac-docs/index.cgi?board_liaison_process_2009), > > > in his > the meeting of August of the 4, > > each asks for > > FINE > tosend a list of the names of the candidates who have > > > > > p endorsed! > &g!

t; or the THINone. The ALAC of then will vote on the list > of > and > > gt; > > candidates who use the system of the voting of > instantaneous exit > > > > ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting), > that > > > > mediosque will align each candidate, or! > > f preferred more > > > favorite more less possible > >! > >; to the hor > > ar! > io > of the selection of Liasion of the ALAC card: > > > > during his > the meeting of August of the 4, the ALAC adopted the following schedule > > > > for the selection of the connection of the card: > > * > the appointments > > of the FINE is even opened: fifteenth > published > ready September > * > > of the candidate: 17moSeptember > * called of > > sincere! > ate of ofthe of > > conference with the community: Between! > 18 - 20 > of September > * period of > >!

; the selection of ALAC: 21- 30 of > September > * annou! ncedresu lts: 1r > > October > > also sees > process 2009 of the connection of the card > >> ((> > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?board_liaison_process_2009) >> > > > for a detailed description of which > is of the indispensable process > > > and > > lasobligaciones of the connection of the ALAC card: > > > for one > > description in the general obligations and requirements > for ALAC > > > connection according to the thing specified by > > the instruments of the adjustment, > > considers >! > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac! > > - > > docs/index.cgi?obligations_and_requirements_of_alac_liaisons > >! >

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> > > > interested candidates can also wish repasarel docum! > > > > > entos if > guientes: > > - the description of the position > > > sketch for the members and of the connections of forwhich of !

ALAC he > > was > >! > > preparedby the member Alan Greenberg of ALACand is at the moment > > > opened > the commentaries of theTheEn-Grande community: > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_alac_pd > > - > level > of >> laconsolidacisn of the connection of the card > of > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?board_liaisons_election_2009_commitment_...; of_board_liaison > > > > according to the message proposed of > called of the connection of forthe of > > the selection of the ALAC card > > of > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?Proposed%20Election%20Call%20Messag...; e%20for%20ALAC%20Board%20Liaison > > > > > > the LACRALO > the participants can indicate their appointments > > cualquierpersona that> applications > > &g! > > t; button of the commentary in wikis of LACRALO: > https! > > >!

>://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?2009_election_call_lacr! alo_e! & gt; > >n > > or > > > > > > > https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?2009_electi! > > on_call_lacralo_es>o > the ready use Laca-Discute IN of a! > nd ofIS > > > >! > > > > also, is other selections which follows, > the information can be found > > in > > > > > https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?2009_election_call_lacralo_en>(ADE>; NTRO)or > > > > https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?2009_election_call_lacralo_es (IT > IS) > > > > > revealing T > LACRALO secretariat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > the list > > > lacquer-discuss-lacquer-discuss-in which > sends > > > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists...; ican!

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