Re: [lac-discuss-en] =? Utf-8? Q? Fwd = 3A_Declaraci = C3 = B3n_sobre_la_Estra? == Utf-8? Q? Tegia_Reuni = C3 = B3n_de_ICANN? =
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Utf-8? Q? Fwd = 3A_Declaraci = C3 = B3n_sobre_la_Estra? == Utf-8? Q? Tegia_Reuni = C3 = B3n_de_ICANN? = From: jumaropi@yahoo.com Hi Fatima, Natalie and Jose, Very good to have a statement LACRALO. I only corrected some things according to the texts and suggested sending the call corrected texts. In this paragraph: "In the current system (...) since each one and a half meetings are held approximately in the region of Latin America and Caribbean. With the proposed consolidation strategy, inthe region meetings would be held every three years affected the equity in the rotation regional, as members of the local community should expect more time to have a chance to participate personally in these meetings. This is a very long life cycle taking into account that Officers of the main mandates of our region have a duration one and two years. ' I suggest reads: "(...) Because about every year and a half meetings are held in the region of Latin America and Caribbean. "(...) "With the proposed consolidation strategy, our meetings in the region would be held every three years affected equality in the rotation regional. A relevant fact is that members of our local communities will have to wait longer to have involved such meetings personally. " Mainly the change has to do with the word equity. If we check their meanings, almost no sense to apply what we mean. According to the Dictionary of the Royal Spanish Academy of Language means: 1. f. Equanimity. 2. f. Temperance Benevolent usual. Propensity to be guided, or failure, of a sense of duty or conscience, rather than by the strict requirements of the law or by the final text of the law. 3. f. Natural justice, as opposed to the letter of the positive law. 4. f.Moderation in the price of things, or the conditions of the contracts. 5. f. Disposition of the mind which moves to give everyone what they deserve The word equality: As SAR means "pick and proportion that results from many parts that make up a whole evenly." That's why I consider the latter more suitable for what you want to say. The next paragraph begins: "This form of rotation (...) also hinder effective participation in public meetings of those individuals and organizations that need to attend financed by their own means, as every year should travel cities and remote regions, and hence more costly, than the hometowns. " I suggest that it looks like: "It hinder effective participation in public meetings of those people and organizations that need to be financed to attend on their own, because all the years must travel from their home cities and remote regions, and therefore more costly. " My two cents. Sincerely, JUAN MANUEL ROJAS Social Communicator President - AGEIA DENSI Colombia Twitter: @ JmanuRojas Join LACRALO: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es ________________________________ From: Fatima Cambronero <fatimacambronero@gmail.com> To lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: LACRALO discussion list <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Posted: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:29 a.m. Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: Statement on ICANN Meeting Strategy Dear, Regarding the Proposed Consolidation Strategy Meetings ICANN is open for public comment until tomorrow (November 16 at 23:59 UTC), with Natalia Enciso we have developed the following statement (is copied below) that we refer to it consideration. In this statement we have considered the various comments been some LACRALO members on our list and further statement prepared by Tijani AFRALO. We have talked to our LACRALO President Jose Arce, and as we time is short, we kindly ask that you please review this statement and make their comments throughout the day, so we have time tomorrow to pass into English and included as public comment LACRALO name. Also because of the shortness of time, I want to ask for Please if you disagree with any part of the text, proposed the wording preferring instead, since comments general will take to be developed and included. Thank you very much. Best regards, Fatima Cambronero * LACRALO Statement on the Proposed Consolidation Strategy ICANN Meeting * LACRALO understands the difficulties that the staff responsible for the ICANN meetings are having to find suitable places for ICANN global meetings in some regions, especially since the community has grown in recent times in size and scope. Rate efforts to revise the current selection system. However considers that it is the right time to do so considering that is open review process Framework Regions ICANN Geographic where splitting criterion ICANN regions could be considerably modified depending on the outcome of this process. Also, considering the speech of the new CEO of ICANN, Fadi Chehade in Toronto, one of the objectives is focused on ICANN internationalization of the organization. Therefore, the lack of rotation equitable regional proposal in this consolidation strategy Meeting this goal would be attacking the new central management. In the current system of selection of meeting venues rotation regional respected equally, because each one and a half meetings are held approximately in the region of Latin America and Caribbean. With the proposed consolidation strategy, meetings the region would be held every three years affected the equity in the rotation regional, as members of the local community should expect more time to have a chance to participate personally in these meetings. This is a very long life cycle taking into account that Officers of the main mandates of our region have a duration one and two years. This rotation is not equal between regions impact the actual and user engagement members in the region of ALS Latin America and Caribbean, the necessary interaction that must exist in ICANN public meetings between community members and Board, affecting the transparency that should guide these meetings. Also hinder effective participation in public meetings of those individuals and organizations that need to attend financed by their own means, as every year should travel cities and remote regions, and hence more costly, than the hometowns. Importantly also considered in most countries Latin America and Caribbean visa is not required for admission. This should be considered an advantage alongside countries like the United States and Canada, and for this reason not be denied to countries in our region possibility to host ICANN meetings, only three years. We also consider it important to include other possible negative impact of the Proposed Consolidation Strategy Meetings and is referred to ICANN Fellowship Program. One of the most important criteria and has been responsible for the success of this program is based on the geographical diversity of its participants and its proximity on the venues of the meetings.This has allowed the program has been enriched with participants from all regions of ICANN participating in meetings equally through their years of life. With the proposed consolidated affect the possibility of fellows from the Latin America and Caribbean are selected to participate in the program, having to wait three years to have the opportunity to be part of it and that ICANN meets the Outreach and empowerment that are part of their objectives. LACRALO is convinced that an equal rotation between regions is important to meet the functional, geographic and cultural Internet enshrined in the ICANN Bylaws. Therefore, to comply consider equitable regional rotation to be followed using selection system meeting current branches and that in the case of play for a region not present options that meet headquarters ICANN requirements needed to host a meeting, you must move to the region next in the meeting schedule stipulated.The region concerned, in turn lose this opportunity, having to wait to ensure compliance with the cycle of the five regions, in order to re- apply. Thus, the criterion is respected regional diversity equitably. Also consider necessary to revisit this criteria once approved the Framework for Geographic Regions be adjusted to the new regional reality. 2012/11/15 <carlton.samuels@gmail.com>
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Asunto: Re: Fwd: Declaración sobre la Estrategia Reunión de ICANN De: carlton.samuels@gmail.com
Estoy totalmente de aprobar todos estos comentarios. El proporcionar lejos y más evidencia de mi posición como enviado.
- Carlton
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El Miércoles, 14 de noviembre 2012 a las 1:34 PM, Natalia Enciso < natalia.enciso@gmail.com> escribió:
(these are notes from the papers, icann bylaws etc, that can be used as a base for the statement if You all considered it appropiately)
Today the ICANN meeting serves the following purposes: • Engages local communities in various regions on issues affecting them (outreach). ICANN needs to do more to encourage outreach and involvement from the global community. Taking one meeting every 3 year in LAC wont help achieving this goal, all the contrary. They are an important foundation of the ICANN multi-stakeholder model.
• It reinforces ICANN’s global character – it increases and widens participation from different countries.
Icann bylaws. Section 2 core values. 4. Seeking and supporting broad, informed participation reflecting the functional, geographic, and cultural diversity of the Internet at all levels of policy development and decision-making.possible.
Section 3. NON-DISCRIMINATORY TREATMENT
ICANN shall not apply its standards, policies, procedures, or practices inequitably or single out any particular party for disparate treatment unless justified by substantial and reasonable cause, such as the promotion of effective competition.
Fellowship: adding to What Dev said, The Fellowship program is designed toward ensuring geographic diversity and to include representatives from multiple ICANN regions. Following the New strategic plan would diminish LAC possibility to apply.
And, Fadi in his Torontos speech emphasized about the New internalization of Icann. Taking Icann to the Community and not the Other way a round.
http://www.icann.org/en/news/press/kits/toronto45/video-chehade-15oct12-en.h...
Looking forward for your comments,
Natalia
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El 14/11/2012, a las 15:04, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> escribió:
Perhaps this point could be made by a separate LACRALO statement:
According to the ICANN Fellowship page at http://www.icann.org/en/about/participate/fellowships , Fellowships are awarded based on a mix of criteria including geographic proximity to meetings. Thus, more fellowships are awarded to persons in the geographic region of the ICANN meeting.
With the proposed Consolidated Meeting Strategy impacting when ICANN meetings are held in Latin America and the Caribbean (LAC) and Africa,
this
"geographic proximity to meetings" criterion for the award of ICANN fellowships for the meetings in Europe and Asia/Pacific from 2014-2016 should be adjusted to allow for more fellowships from persons in Africa and the LAC regions.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Carlton Samuels < carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Natalia: There has been a change in the original plan for a joint AFRALO/LACRALO statement.
Tijani held the pen on the draft ALAC statement. And so ensured the AFRALO perspective is adequately covered. Their main concern was about visa for African attendees.
If we think LACRALO issues are not properly addressed, we could add to that draft ALAC statement.
Best, - Carlton
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Natalia Enciso < natalia.enciso@gmail.com
wrote:
I agree to have a joint statement. But do we still have time? The vote announce have been made. Nati
2012/11/13 Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com>
Recall the AFRALO Leadership proposed a joint AFRALO/LACRALO Statement.
Is there any interest? - Carlton
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <alac-announce-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:00 AM Subject: ALAC-Announce Digest, Vol 52, Issue 5 To: alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org
VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: ALAC Statement on the ICANN Consolidated Meetings Strategy Proposal (At-Large Staff)
Message: 1 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:23:50 +0000 (UTC) From: "At-Large Staff" <staff@atlarge.icann.org> Subject: [ALAC-Announce] VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: ALAC Statement on the
Dear All,
Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, has asked that a vote be
held
by the ALAC on the proposed "ALAC Statement on the ICANN Consolidated Meetings Strategy Proposal<https://community.icann.org/x/_5MoAg>" for communication to the relevant parties.
***** Question: Do you support the ratification of the "ALAC Statement on the ICANN Consolidated Meetings Strategy Proposal< https://community.icann.org/x/_5MoAg>" for communication to the relevant parties? *****
Additional information on this Statement can be found on the At-Large ICANN Consolidated Meetings Strategy Proposal Workspace< https://community.icann.org/x/_5MoAg>.
Please note that the poll will be open from 10-November-2012 00:01 UTC to 15-Novemeber-2012 23:59 UTC.
Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff@atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>
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