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[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: in the translations From: sylvia@internautabrasil.org Dear Jam That good it is to see that to pronounce command post our region is not necessary to learn another language and yes to make it command post our native language. At least that it is what I deduce that the translation that arrived from yourmessage. "In addition, I do not think that we broad nor I must require any person to learn to new language (Spanish or English) to participate inLACRALO." Another thing that confirms that is the result of the made survey, where 65% of LACRALO say to express Spanish command post, 25% commandpost ingles and 15% command post Portuguese. Greetings Sylvia _________________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein Leite Secretary FLUI - www.fuilatin.org LACRALO-ALAC Member Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization sylvia@internautabrasil.org -----Mensagem original Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of jam@jacquelinemorris.com Shipment command post: second-feira, 22 of novembro of 2010 15:13 It stops: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] in the translations [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] Subject: Re: in the translations Of: jam@jacquelinemorris.com Hi Carlos Like me, this is looked like a supply for the separation of the language in lists. The loudspeakers Not-Spaniards will lack towards outside in many of the discussion in Spanish and the not-English loudspeakers will lack towards outside in the discussion in English. In addition, I do not think that we broad nor I must require any person to learn to new language (Spanish or English) to participate in LACRALO. the region has many languages, and we decided in the principle to workby the minus in two of them, Spanish and English. I am suitable that the translation is not perfect in this time, only ICANN's the supply to watch the alternatives that can be better must to use, and is no necessity to change how the whole system of the list it works until this is put in execution and the initiative is evaluated. Jacqueline To Morris The technology must be like oxygen: Ubicuo, necessary, invisible and it frees. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) Mon, of nov the 22 of 2010 in 12:50 P.M., <cveraq@gmail.com> it wrote: > > [ [ - - translated text (is - >)--]] of in > > > subject: Re: in translations > of: cveraq@gmail.com > > I understand thanks you kill > > I propose to the members of the list: > > 1. If we spoke Spanish unless it is necessary (for example to answer > an email somebody loudspeaker anglian) it stops to send the email in equal Spanish > > ingles speaks but podria can to communicate in Spanish to be good to use > this > the language and of passage of progresión improves its use > > 2. The email in español to send it to the list in español. Emailin > ingles > to the list in ingles. > > 3, kill: Deberia of the system to admit that ready subscribing and not > receiving > the translations of the system, éste can be obtained from waycreating simple > the new translations of the list in which quià envien the email translated shutdowns >©nes decideon this opción. Then three lists habrian:! One in español, > another one in ingles and another one of translations. This way email > translated > español does not enumerate inside or ingles envian they mismospero to theone of > translations > > looks like impossible to evade to mà of the familiar thing when speaking or > to write... if > we put respect it warms up and the system translates it has gustode hot greetings... > I create that this solución serious simple to put in execution and aliviariamuch > distribution and discusión unnecessary > > Expensive De Carlos > > > > _______________________________________________ [ [ - - Original text (in) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/cf2ãed026.html --]] _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f7d16485d7.html --]]
I am amazed that we continue to beat this dead horse. Fact: we do not now have a good automated translation engine for this list; Google Translate is better. Process: Send your content to the list supporting your language; lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org for English, lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org for Spanish. Alternative: For Spanish speakers, if you want a better translation for the original English content contributed, subscribe to the English list, get the content in English, cut and paste it to Google Translate and get your translation. If you use Gmail as your mail service it is even easier; you translate it directly by simply setting a switch in your mail setup. For native English speakers, substitute Spanish in all places you see English in the preceding instruction. The language issue and your facility in use - becomes acute in the ICANN world when general discussions and 'hallway talk' becomes important to acquiring information and knowledge. LACRALO fought hard for translation services and we are light years ahead of where we began. All this aside, English remains the working language in the ICANN world and translation services cover only one VERY small portion of engagements. This is one that we must continue to fight for even as we recognize that we are going against the general stream here. Carlton
Yes, and that is why I support the ICANN staff's idea to look for a better tool, Google translate or whatever. But I need the translation, as do others, and so I will not support losing it. No way should this become a no translation list, where I cannot read 60% of the emails and others cannot read the other %. Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:37 PM, SAMUELS,Carlton A < carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm> wrote:
I am amazed that we continue to beat this dead horse. Fact: we do not now have a good automated translation engine for this list; Google Translate is better.
Process: Send your content to the list supporting your language; lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org for English, lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org for Spanish.
Alternative: For Spanish speakers, if you want a better translation for the original English content contributed, subscribe to the English list, get the content in English, cut and paste it to Google Translate and get your translation. If you use Gmail as your mail service it is even easier; you translate it directly by simply setting a switch in your mail setup. For native English speakers, substitute Spanish in all places you see English in the preceding instruction.
The language issue and your facility in use - becomes acute in the ICANN world when general discussions and 'hallway talk' becomes important to acquiring information and knowledge. LACRALO fought hard for translation services and we are light years ahead of where we began.
All this aside, English remains the working language in the ICANN world and translation services cover only one VERY small portion of engagements. This is one that we must continue to fight for even as we recognize that we are going against the general stream here.
Carlton
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