[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: 2011 election call for LACRALO to chair and secretariat From: apisan@servidor.unam.mx Ovid, I am speaking of the amplest frame since a reform sets out that sacraliza the re-election (although limited). Forced explanation; said that, I insist, I will avoid to participate in discussions procedural. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, [ iso-8859-1 ] Jose Ovid Salgueiro wrote:

Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:00:21 -0500 > From: "[ iso-8859-1 ] Jose Ovid Salgueiro" <salgueiro.jo@gmail.com> > To: ' Alexander Pisanty' <apisan@servidor.unam.mx>, > "[ iso-8859-1 ] ' Andrés Piazzá" <andrespiazza@gmail.com> > Cc: "[ iso-8859-1 ] ' LACRALO Español'" <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] 2011 election call for LACRALO > to chair and secretariat > > Dear Alexander: > > What I understand is that this is not the voting, simply Andrés and Dev > is indicating that candidates postulate themselves as and have been some supports > (among them mio), if there is another one wishes to postulate itself, this it is the moment > to do it. > > > > > Jose Ovid > > > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > Alexander Pisanty > Envoy: Friday, 25 of February of 2011 08:31 p.m. > For: Andrés Piazza > CC: Spanish ! LACRALO > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] 2011 election call for LACRALO > to chair and secretariat > > Andrés, > > said the aforista Mariana Frenk-Westheim, "is elegant to resign". > > Repeatedly in the ICANN history the authors of reforms we have ourselves > insured of which any apparent or real benefit of the reformsthat > we impelled are applied to the successors, and not to we ourself. Like > example is "term limits" and the terms counted for those who > we were in the Board of the 2003 reform, that was brief by more of > half period our stay. > > On the same base has occurred a very hard critic to Peter Dengate-Thrush > in the introduction of economic compensation by the service to the Board; no > was only this one debatable one, but that was taken very to badly that it did not leave it it stops > application only to its successors. > > Much less appropriate seems to consider that it occurs me without process, > postulations, debates and voting an ! automatic extension of the periods > of mandate present since ! it would exclude (or will exclude, or excludes, to > fast step which we go) a democratic evaluation of the effectiveness, > effectiveness and fulfillment of promises that is the minimum dose of surrender of > accounts. > > Subject of reflection only, given the answer of other representatives of > organizations. > > Añado which I anticipate to leave this discussion in this point, of not being compelido a > to return to participate, because neither I nor who we followed the subjects of > LACRALO in ISOC Mexico we would want to be responsible in nomeasurement for > that extends a procedural discussion more, in damage of > sustantivas. > > Buscaremos other channels to explore and to construct a collective opinion > on the subjects nouns. If there were doubt of which they canbe > excellent, a pair of examples where an opinion would be welcome > informed into the representatives of the users of Internet in > Latin America and the Caribbean is the overhaul (even audit)of > fulfillment of ! the responsibilities of ICANN in the matter of stability, > security and robustness of DNS (SSR-RT) and the request of opinions of > NTIA of the Department of Commerce of EU on the renovation of the contract > for the operation of IANA, that many consider the subject toral of > gobernanza of Internet in the field of the "critical resources of interest". > > I cannot omit my appreciation of which the conduction of theworks of > this community in subjects as those will be far better a test of leadership > of our elect civil employees who the overhaul of the regulations stops > the duration of its positions. > > Warm greeting. > > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/ap! isanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linke! din.com/ e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2011, [ ISO-8859-1 ] Andrés Piazza wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:23:07 -0300 > > From: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Andrés Piazza" <andrespiazza@gmail.com> > > To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan@servidor.unam.mx> > > Cc: "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" > <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] 2011 election call for > LACRALO > > to chair and secretariat > > > > Alexander, > > > > Necesito that you clarify east mail. > > > > and I explain myself. Today, positions of President and Secretary, * * do not have > > legal limitation for the re-election. Nevertheless, the propose reform > e > > impelled so fervent, aims to create that limitation. > > > > the time has pr! evented that we obtain the approval of thereform (although > > we have been having consensus, for a year, in the points that we want to reform). > > This caused that we must, fulfilling the Statutes, to make the call > > that Dev made the day of yesterday, so that any candidatewho > wishes, > > is pronounced like possible President or Secretary. > > > > This also forced to declare to us, as much Dev as I, our will > of > > to continue. And as this exists, now we are ourselves surprised with the support > of > > numerous organizations. They can choose not to participate from ISOC Mexico and > > to avoid to pronounce itself on the individual, freely. But I do not include/understand your > > democratic reference in this individual. > > > > Greetings, > > > > Andrés > > > > > > 2011/2/25 Alexander Pisanty <apisan@servidor.unam.mx> > > > > > Andrés, > > > > > > by our part, not even we will participate in ! the discussion if > > > people who at the moment hold th! e positi ons does not announce that NO > will participate > > > in the selection in case that the re-election is allowed. > > > > > > This one is a custom that occurs by done in many democratic means. > > > > > > Viene? > > > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. > > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.o! rg > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > >. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, [ ISO-8859-1 ] Andrés Piazza wrote: > > > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:43:59 -0300 > > > > From: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Andrés Piazza" <andrespiazza@gmail.com> > > > > To: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <admin@ttcsweb.org> > > > > Cc: "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" < > > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ lac-discuss-in ] 2011 election call for > > > > LACRAL > > > > to chair and secretariat > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus is. > > > > > > > > Pensaba that with the modification of the Statutes, ayear would be included of > > > > continuity mine and of Dev, until 2012. It was still not obtained, we are advanced > and > > > > in just a short time we ! will be able. > > > > > > > > the law forces! to us t o make this call, but I must confirm that I am > > > > arranged to serve more by a year. > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > Andrés > > > > > > > > 2011/2/24 Dev Anand Teelucksingh <admin@ttcsweb.org> > > > > > > > > Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> According to the LACRALO Operating Principles and the Rules of > Procedure >>>>> ( >>>>> > https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+Organising+Documents >>>>>) >>>>> the term of the president of LACRALO and the secretariat of LACRALO is >>>>> one to year each. >>>>> >>>>> The terms of the current LACRALO president and secretariat will end on >>>>> April 14th, 2011 (see announcement from April 15th, 2010: >>>>> > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2010/002631.html >>>>>) >>>&! gt;> >>>>> The current president is Andres Piazza from AGEIA DENSI, and is >>>>> willing to serve to another term. >>>>> >>>>> The current secretariat is Dev Anand Teelucksingh from Trinidad and >>>>> Tobago Computer Society and is willing to serve to another term. >>>>> >>>>> While there was agreement in the run-up to the elections in 2010 to >>>>> having such officers serve for to two to year term, therelevant Bylaw >>>>> provisions have not yet been endorsed by the LACRALO membership. >>>>> >>>>> Since these officers general dog only be elected by to LACRALO >>>>> assembly, it is the intention to have to virtual assembly if there is >>>>> any to other representative from an accredited ALS in LACRALO who wishes >>>>> to stand for either >>>>> >>>>> - the post of LACRALO president.! >>>> or >>>>> - the post of LACRALO ! secretar iat. >>>>> >>>>> These candidates MUST email the secretariat AT admin@ttcsweb.org >>>>> within four weeks from the dates of this posting (by March 24, 2011). >>>>> >>>>> If there plows not to other candidates, then the president and secretariat >>>>> will be considered re-elected to serve to another to year from April 15th >>>>> 2011 and the virtual assembly would not be held. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Dev Anand Teelucksingh >>>>> LACRALO Secretariat >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> lac-discuss-in mailing list >>>>> lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in >>>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >! > > > * Andrés Piazza * > > > > www.andrespiazza.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > * Andrés Piazza * > > www.andrespiazza.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > >

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