[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia From: asoto@ibero-americano.org Alejandro, I understand how debatable the introduction to information systems. But it happens that in the survey that makes the our group, there were people who did not know our ALS initial details. That is why I took it as a pedagogical course with the need for leveling, progressive knowledge. If not, then do not understand the need for generating policies in certain aspect. For the rest of the observations, and will take into account the corrections. Just remember that I wanted to form a working group to make these submissions, and there was only one applicant who had a lot of work, so I had to do it alone, in record time ... Best regards and thanks Alberto Soto From: Alejandro Pisanty [mailto: apisanty@gmail.com] Posted on: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:21 pm To: Alberto Soto CC: LACRALO Spanish Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia Alberto, Thanks for sharing this item preliminarily. Question: Is this "tour" blades are also necessary introduction to information systems? Beyond that also commented that other organizations we are avoiding defining the Internet as an information system, even as a "system" because it produces some undesirable reflex reactions - as refine the system, structure it, own it and rule it. There is some semantic argument here, of course, since what is meant by "system". Second observation recently (eg by reviewing for the third or fourth book Laura de Nardis on "war for Internet governance") is turning me loud the term "hierarchical" in the description of the DNS IP addresses, and administration of both. While both systems are well described as "hierarchical" in their structures, the same is not strictly true to its governance. Speaking of "hierarchical governance" to uninitiated also produces adverse reflexes; created image of a control system, from top to bottom, in which each party receives orders from a boss. What really is, especially in the DNS, is to delegate authority completely independent. This leads to the principle of subsidiarity, the importance of the bank, and character surprise! non-hierarchical, horizontal, internet. Third, to describe the organization of the "At Large" seems essential from the very beginning to exhibit the concept of "Web of Trust" in which the entire system is based.This concept is also the basis of the admission process for new organizations or ALS. By exposing the system to organizations invited to join, it is important to explain why they will be subject to inspection and by whom. And it is important to be known by other organizations, ALS recognized that close support based on information and confidence on its compliance with the requirements. Finally, on this last point: let them know that it is better to have tough skin. Best regards to all / as Alejandro Pisanty 5/12/2014 10:30 GMT-05: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >: Dear, yesterday finally received the approval of both projects, which will be held between 03 and June 7, 2014. We had requested an exception to Sebastien Bacholet could travel, but were not awarded.For this reason his replacement and suggestions of the working group, I will travel in my capacity as President of LACRALO, and held at Sylvia Herlein Laite. Haiti will have the support of Jean Marie Altema (Native Languages \u200b\u200bFrench, English and Spanish), ICANN fellowship. This contact gave it timely Cambronero Fatima, whom I thank. I attached the presentation that your modifications thereto, will be used in both places. Currently being translated into French, and we already have the copy in English. You see, this presentation is made in Bolivia. While there was involvement was not desired. The event was under, not accessible to the entire organization, or to the general public. He simultaneously within the same university, another issue that was obviously more important for Congress convened public. For this experience maybe if I have time, I'll CROPP clarification on the program.I think an event like this, should not be content delivery in another major event, with several simultaneous thematic conferences, loses effectiveness. Anyway, three people came to ask about the possibility of certain organizations. I'm hoping that they contact via mail, but two almost certainly not certify. Best Regards Alberto Soto From: Dev Anand Teelucksingh [mailto: devtee@gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com> ] Posted on: Sunday, May 11, 2014 8:08 a.m. To: Alberto Soto; Humberto Carrasco CC: sylvia @ prontocl; Silvia Vivanco; At-Large Staff; Juan Manuel Rojas Subject: Re: RV: ICANN monitoring workshop Dear Alberto, As a FYI, Rodrigo gave his approval on Thursday evening and I filed the proposal on the wiki ICANN on Friday. https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Prop... https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Prop... Also, With These Proposals now using slots 4 travel out of travel LACRALO's 5 slots, instead of 2 as was originally Proposed by the end of the conference calls, the third proposal with 2 Travelers to the ICT event in Suriname will Have To Be To Have adjusted only 1 traveler. Dev Anand 7/5/2014 11:23 GMT-04: 00 Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com><mailto:devtee@gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com> >>: Dear Alberto, There have not been any CROPP Concerns from RT so I've sent to Rodrigo and Albert for approval. Once Obtained That is, we'll file the proposal on ICANN's wiki. However, to be very, very clear, Alberto, I'm not responsible for the delay in This. Your initial proposal Lacked clarity and detail from the beginning and required Eventually multitude numerous emails and conference calls to sort out the information needed for the trip Proposals after They Were not forthcoming. Then there were many changes to the various Travelers Themselves That You requested, including different combinations of Travelers traveling to Haiti and the Dominican Republic Proposed by you. This proposal was formally submitted to the CROPP RT twice and withdrawn YOU Because of changes requested. I've always been diligent in working with you to see LACRALO succeed in any outreach efforts. Please remember that. Kind Regards, Dev Anand 07.05.2014 8:32 GMT-04: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org><mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >>: FYI Dev, over two months ago I presented the project as it is today, and WITH THIS, if you really concrete, are endangering the goals. We can confirm asap? thanks Alberto From: Amparo Arango [mailto: amparo.arango @ gmail.com <mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com><mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com <mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com> >] Posted on: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 8:39 a.m. To: Yacine Khelladi; Alberto Soto Subject: ICANN monitoring workshop Estimates: we're to May 7 and we do not yet have a date for the workshop ICANN. But also not been made formal contact with the university that this workshop would. I suggested three options: PUCMM, APEC INTEC. During NETmundial will speak informally with Clara Hill of PUCMM, she'll stay interested at first but he said he would send a communication to all the details. Not if you can make an extra workshop on Governance Group lNDOTEL ... If so you have to organize it now. Yacine, you have to decide who would and if there already Clara Colado give formal request. You should also inform the group of ISOC so that they are also conveners ... You have to prepare the invitation and talk with other universities .. Finally we are at the limit to do everything we need to do. I go on a trip the first week of June and this month also have a complicated agenda. So I remember them accelerate this process because this all done. 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