[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? RES = 3A__Toda_Am = E9rica_Latina? = From: apisan@unam.mx Sylvia, amme seems very clear to Roosevelt's message in an translation. Now, if not understood, tcomo translator and can secrete responsible for providing a translation since Roosevelt's message, supplemented by Jackie's worth ledo by all. Who ESTN according podrn whether manifest or not, and who have responsibilities in questioning POLICIES Roosevelt and Jackie would do well to express their positions. Alejandro Pisanty ! ! ! !! NEW PHONE NUMBER - NEW PHONE NUMBER FROM ABROAD +52-1-5541444475 FROM +525541444475 MXICO SMS +525541444475 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, University Avenue 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Ph. +52- (1) -55-5105-6044, +52- (1) -55-5418-3732 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of sylvia@internautabrasil.org [sylvia@internautabrasil.org] Posted on: sbado, May 26, 2012 9:22 To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Any Latin America Thanks Dev for re-send this message. This is another of the problems we have to solve in the mailing list. One sends a message to your mailing list, thinking that automatically saldren the other list and sometimes they are not. And thanks Alberto, to confirm that you really can not understand a Translation An like this, until you lose the original meaning of the text. Luckily we are working seriously on this to fix it. Greetings to all, Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein sylvia@internautabrasil.org LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2013 - http://atlarge.icann.org 2009-2012 Secretary FLUI sylvia_leite = Skype ----- Mensagem Original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of Alberto Copse Posted in: sbado, May 26, 2012 00:55 To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] A Latin America Dear Dev, it means absolutely nothing for the poor translation. Best Regards Alberto Soto ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of devtee@gmail.com Posted on: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:44 pm To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: All America Latina [[- Translated text (in -> en) -]] Subject: Re: All America Latina From: devtee@gmail.com Dear All, Think of this message has not reached the list of ES, so re-Envo back "as is" with the hope that the list veren ES - Dev Anand ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <admin at bango.org.bb> Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 18:31 Subject: [lac-discuss-en] all of Latin America To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Hello to all members, It has become difficult not to notice what may be called a demonstration of American Msculo America.First an attempt to ignore the fact that the official language is English Course and I am seeing statements of the working groups a the decision must be made on the language that the group would work in. If the official language ICANN is Ingls, it is important that the Ingls is used and not a mixture of words in German, Spanish, French or otherwise have different meanings and connotations in different idiomas.Esto is ascomo important to be consistent. No matter the language, what language is used, should not be compromised. There can be something as comprehension Inglsy then let someone more the comprehension of a way different due to differences of language or interpretation. For example, I'm listening reference to the President, as President, which is said Trasnlation into Spanish for "the President" is "the President". In English, there is a clear distinction between a President and a President, and there is a difference between "sovereign" and "higher making organ "of an organization. The highest organ of decision in any organization is also subject to rules. Or can even break their own rules and as a matter of fact, will be judged by how well it has been able to observe its own rules. First, when I look at the rules of LACRALO, the President is erroneously known as the President. This is where the corruption of the President begins term as it moves from the President of the president, the president. Then, upon taking office, President begins to act like he is a president, but when you look at the ROP, the president's role is clearly an executive, but the role, a task to perform. Second, the sovereign word has no place in the process democratic.Democracy is not about sovereignty but rather cooperation, dialogue, collaboration, consultation and consensus. The sovereignty connotes arbitrary rule, an absolute rule, a divine right to rule, etc., while democracy is on the status of people and completely contrary to the beliefs popular, not about majority rule either. This is the rule of the people. In any society, there are many different people. People do not tend to be of one mind. They have diverse interests and at both have to come together, consultation, dialogue and continue working with others for the benefit of all. In any democracy, especially minorities should have a voice and it seems that the LEA, although they are saying democracy obviously do not understand what palabra.Esto means was demonstrated by the President of the Joseph General Assembly in one of many incidents when he refused questions on a motion and stated that the vote will take place only.A then after the vote, someone proceeded to ask clarification on what was just voted. That in itself is crazy and, certainly a lack of appreciation for democratic procedure, since After voting, no one should ask for clarification. Everyone should be clear about what they are voting before vote. Therefore, do not support his election as President of LACRALO and given the dictatorial behavior of the Secretariat, I lay in doubt their knowledge of democracy. While these people as personalities are very hospitable and friendly, this race to politicize LACRALO unwelcome. As a person who is accustomed to democratic procedures and process (which is my daily life), which is below my dignity to participate in any organization where elected believe they have a single autocratic and democratic rules procedures are unknown.We're not used to not esto.Nosotros We are accustomed to people trying to make enforceable decisions that affect others and rely on its authority to tease rules and do what they like. These issues are too simple and I have no intention of participate in meetings where people are not respected and is expected to do what they are told. I left my childhood more than for 40 years, never to return. So my participation in LACRALO will be minimal if any. Not I can take the infantilism associated with the politicization of LACRALO. Finally, in the same way as the coefficients of the countries have applied to ensure that each country has one vote, is the same so that Los Angeles should not hold all elected officials. It This LA & C. It is now only in Los Angeles. The C is missing and I am among the many C.of my colleagues have taken the same position including those who were in CR and at Therefore, when the after CR should be greater participation, or we can achieve even this proposal. Therefore, oppose this politicization of LACRALO and give notice of not participate is not for lack of interest, but to protest the politización.Voy to sit with you at a party, sit down to talk, but not in the meetings of LACRALO to those charged with their management understand how to manage in a democratic manner. South Korea Roosevelt O. King Secretary General of the Barbados, the Association of Non Governmental # 10 Garrison, St. Michael Barbados Tel: 247-822-7707 / 254-5815 e-mail: admin in bango.org.bb Network: http://bangoonline.igloocommunities.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/cbbc58ffa5.html --]]