[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: VOTE NOTICE: VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE 2015 LACRALO ALAC / 2015 REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE FOR LACRALO ALAC From: asoto@ibero-americano.org Thank you very much Chris. Humberto we are working right now on it. Habrun summary of the proceedings. Best regards Alberto Soto -----Original Message----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of chris.lahatte@icann.org Posted on: Thursday, 10 September 2015 24:26 To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] NOTICE FEEDBACK: 2015 VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE LACRALO ALAC / 2015 REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE FOR LACRALO ALAC [[Translated text (en -> en) -]] Subject: Re: VOTE NOTICE: VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE 2015 LACRALO ALAC / 2015 REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE FOR LACRALO ALAC From: chris.lahatte@icann.org I continued to read messages in this list. It is always useful to have passion for their ideas, but sometimes it's a good idea to be careful when you ARE disagree with someone and discuss cuestiny not the person. Partly list members have recognized standards for ICANN civil discourse. I hope this continues I have also seen the movement that has sent through Carlton Samuels seeking a vote of no confidence in the leadership of LACRALO. Also I have seen the suggestion that this should stop voting now execution, to be completed. It is not my place to give a jurdica opinin on the constitutionality and whether this should bring votacina high. But I notice that a vote of no confidence in the leadership, and Voting procedures are ongoing issues realize separadas.Me the ballot is considered as a set for some, but a vote of no confidence in the leaders is more properly the subject of a process separately, rather than a measure that will stop the ballot. There will be just to stop the current ballot, when estcasi over, and when many have taken the trouble to discuss candidates comment and the placement of the vote. I recognize that many ALS's in LACRALO (including, but not exclusively Caribbean ALS) estn distressed Hinds Lance estn Caribbean distressed that the candidate had no success in the last round, and is Tomla regrettable that decision to reject the nomination in the round current, and the Caribbean without leaving the voice they estn looking.I understand Senta completely by quse way that after the rejection in the previous round, and I am disappointed that there had many criticisms l unfair. I am sure that this criticism was unfair at least in part by qudeclinla nomination. But there are still two candidates, and I would like to encourage everyone to consider their funds, and place Rating before closing. If members want to continue with the mocin of no confidence, then That tendrque be considered at a duly convened meeting. The Members have the absolute right to bring such motions, and habrun course debate. In view of more time, I am concerned that some members of LACRALO RALO feel excluded. I hope that all participants address has strong opinions and think for this perception of quexiste exclusiny the marginalization.Each Regional At-Large Organization tendrmuy various members, who have very different views on many issues. Have different points of view is really very important, because then it ensures that subjects are fully discussed. We all have different and sometimes passionate opinions, but my goal as the defender the village is working with everyone to reconcile different points of sight where possible, and to ensure also that the groups receive fair treatment to preserve their right to express different points of sight. I am ready at any time to listen to YOU \u200b\u200bSPECIFIC issues, and You can meet even those of you who Serenity Dubln for try Awareness some different views liar. Chris LaHatte Ombudsman Blog https://omblog.icann.org/ Http://www.icann.org/en/help/ombudsman web page Notice All matters submitted to the Ombudsman Sern treaties confidentially. The Ombudsman also adoptartodas the reasonable steps to preserve privacy and to avoid damage to, those parties not involved in the complaint being investigated by The Ombudsman Ombudsman.The podrn only ask questions about, or advise staff or Board members existence and identity of a complainant in order to advance the resolution of the complaint. The defender People you adoptartodas reasonable steps to ensure if the staff and the Board are aware of the existence and identity of a complainant undertake to maintain confidentiality of such information, except as necessary to promote the resolution of a complaint From: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of Carlton Samuels Posted on: Thursday, September 10, 2015 7:12 a.m. To: Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob@gmail.com> Cc: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] NOTICE FEEDBACK: 2015 VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE LACRALO ALAC / 2015 REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE FOR LACRALO ALAC Humberto: I'm not sure what you gave TRANSLATION, but the version in English is authoritarian. I started the whole thread plaininly pointing out the words "point order "so that he could not be wrong. Esperhasta that call the election - and the General Assembly ARE session - a question that needed to be asked and debate ensue. The cuestin is the vote. The period of seven days is the time to discuss the cuestin. What you are quoted is perfectly clear that the movement is placed correctly and the President has an obligation to make the move. That you pidiuna translation of the movement is evidence that mocin is accepted. Now you come to this rule of Pinochet style of the Order! Qute happens? Meanwhile, the President, the President of LACRALO, dumb, maybe with malice. Ritz-Carlton Samuels. ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Planning on, Government, evaluation and delivery ============================= Thu, September 10, 2015 at 7:20 AM Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob@gmail.com <mailto:hcarrascob@gmail.com> > I wrote: Sr.Samuels, To clarify our position even more, we want to explain the nature of which is a matter of order. The rules of procedure of the UNGA, in particular Article 79 Annex IV (a) of the Rules of the General Assembly, gives a concept of what It is a matter of order: 79. ComitEspecial recommends to the General Assembly the adoption following a description of the concept as a matter of order [Para. 229]: "(A) A question of order is basically a targeted intervention to President requesting him to make use of an inherent power or charge that specifically confers regulation. It can, for example, refer to the way in which is performed the debate, the maintenance the order, the observance of the rules of procedure or in the way which presiding officers exercise the powers conferred on them by rules. Under a matter of order, a representative podrpedir to presiding officer to apply a certain rule of procedure or can questioning the way in which the officer applies regla.Por Therefore, within the scope of application of the rules of procedure, estn representatives authorized to direct the attention of official presiding violacines or misapplications of the rules by other representatives or by the President himself.A question of order has precedence over any other matter, including procedural motions (Rules 73 [114] [Rule 71 [113] of this Regulation] and 79 [120] [Rule 77 [119] of this regulation]). "(B) Points of order raised under rule 73 [114] n entraan matters requiring a decision of the presiding officer, subject to apelacin possible. They are therefore distinct from the procedural motions under rules 76 [117] [Rule 74 [116] of the present regulation] and 79 [120] or that can be solved only by a vote and the that more than one motion may be entertained at the same time, the article 79 [120] or the primacy of such sets.Also motions are various requests for aclaracin informacino, or the observations on materials (seats, arrangements system interpretation, room temperature), documents, translations, etc., - If they may have to be dealt with by the president - not required l.Sin resolutions but in practice the United Nations established a representative of the intention to file a motion of procedure or to inform search aclaracin acino often rises to "a question of order" as a means of obtaining the floor. This latter usage, which is based on reasons practices should not be confused with the raising of points of order under rule 73 [114]. If your application is reviewed, you may notice that the application is not He directed to the President requesting him to make use of a power inherent his office or specifically gives you the rules, "but asks "That the General Assembly demonstrate their lack of confidence in the Voting LACRALO leadership and this mocin. In simple terms, what you say is a matter of order, not really is. It is therefore not possible to provide such treatment. Cheers The one 09/10/2015 03:39, Carlton Samuels wrote: Humberto: With the greatest of patience, you're wrong. Again. Please read the motion again Next, see Rule Procedural closely. Rule 18 contains the authority and guidance for the action. The mocin was scheduled for a General Assembly. The pertinent question votaciny the distribution of credentials to the members did so. The vote is a matter of decision. All the reasons for the move are concatenated; unlawful assembly, a failure of the process, etc. The vote is the cuestin debated. If you do not understand the reason for not invoke Rule 8, I can explicrtelo. Redactlas original Rules of Procedure and stay to the authority competent. Ritz-Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 <tel:876-818-1799> Strategy, Planning on, Government, evaluation and delivery ============================= On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 5:32 pm, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob@gmail.com <mailto:hcarrascob@gmail.com> > I wrote: Dear Jacqueline, For this e-mail we respond to his petition. Overall, it is estimated that you can not suspend the election by the following reasons: 1. Voting process is iniciel Thursday, September 3, 2015, and prolongarhasta Thursday, September 10, 2015 until 23:00 hours. 2. mocin the Lord Samuels was presented on Friday, September 4 2015. In his email, the Sr.Samuels planteuna matter of order and ofreciuna mocin of no confidence in the leadership of LACRALO. Sealalgunos arguments to justify their acciny then termincon: "Resolved: That the General Assembly demonstrates its lack of confidence in leadership Voting LACRALO and this mocin ". Therefore, this paragraph shall not say anything about any suspension. 3. On 5 September, Mr. Samuels informally ask a translation Spanish its official mocin to be sent to the Spanish list LACRALO. 4. Subsequently, on September 7, 2015 Alberto Soto had informque sought the legal advice of jurdico ICANN staff mocin regarding this censorship. 5. Rule of Procedure in Articles 8.1 and 8.2 indicates the following: 8.1 During a discussion, any delegate podrplantear a matter of order; a question of the order as pronunciarinmediatamente President. 8.2 podrapelar against the decision of the President. The apelacin be votaciny immediately put to the decision of the President will keep, unless it is overruled by a simple majority of those present and ALS voters. These rules say nothing about any suspension. Nor has apelacin been no. In any case, an appeal shall not suspendila Current ballot. 6. There are articles relating to the suspension of Regulation 9 provides: Rule 9 - Procedural Motions 9.1 During a discussion, any delegate podrproponer the suspension or Rising SESINO adjournment or closure. 9.2 Voting Such motions shall be submitted immediately. Subject to Rule 8.1, such motions They will have precedence in the following order over all dems proposals or motions: (A) Suspension of the session; (B) To adjourn the session; (C) To adjourn the debate on the subject in discussion; (D) To close the debate on the question under debate. 7 - Finally, with regard to the arguments and accusations of Mr. Samuels, Sern answered that once the official translation into Spanish is sent to the Spanish LACRALO list. Regards. Alberto Soto Humberto Carrasco The one 09/09/2015 15:39, Jacqueline Morris wrote: Hello Humberto I'm confused - there was no movement in the table Carlton - the mocin censorship. According to the Rule of Procedure, this motion has to be debated and voted on before the ballot ALAC representative may continue (which takes precedence). This has not been done, how can the asque I vote in ALAC representative be ending tomorrow? Or had one ballot on mociny me what forgiveness? I worry especially given the number of procedural errors They seem to have occurred recently. We do not want more problems with this Voting. Jacqueline A. Morris The technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, necessary, invisible, Free. (After Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) 09/09/2015 9:18 GMT-04: 00 <hcarrascob@gmail.com <mailto:hcarrascob@gmail.com> >: [[--Translated Text (es -> en) -]] Subject: Re: VOTE NOTICE: VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE 2015 LACRALO ALAC / 2015 REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE FOR LACRALO ALAC From: hcarrascob@gmail.com <mailto:hcarrascob@gmail.com> Dear, Do not forget that within Voting ends tomorrow Thursday 10 September 2015 at 23:00 UTC. Health The 04/09/2015 at 0:00, staff@atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:

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Asunto: VOTO ANUNCIO: 2015 VOTO PARA LACRALO ALAC REPRESENTANTE / 2015 De: staff@atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>

[ES] Queridos todos,

LACRALOs Presidencia y Secretaría gustaría anunciar el inicio de la al Representante LACRALO ALAC para el período de dos años a partir de Al final de la reunión de Dublín ICANN en octubre de 2015. Esta desde jueves 03 septiembre 2015 hasta Jueves 10 de septiembre 2015 a las

*** PREGUNTA: ¿A quién apoyas a convertirse en el ALAC Representante el período de dos años a partir de finales de la reunión de la ICANN 10 2015? Por favor, seleccionar un candidato de la lista de abajo (que por orden alfabético del nombre de la familia) o abstenerse: * Harold Arcos * Juan Manuel Rojas * Abstenerse *** Información adicional se puede encontrar en la página de elecciones https://community.icann.org/x/moAQAw.

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[ES] Hola a todos,

El Presidente y secretario de LACRALOs quisieran anunciar el inicio del por voto párrafo Elegir al Representante de LACRALO ante el ALAC EL PERIODO DE 2 aos Empezando al final de de la reunin de Dubln en del 2015. La votacin estarabierta desde el Lunes 03 de Setiembre 2015 al Viernes 10 de Setiembre 2015 a las 23:00 UTC.

*** PREGUNTA: A quien Elige Usted Para Ser Representante del LACRALO ante el ALAC POR EL PERIODO DE 2 aos Comenzando en la reunión de la ICANN en del 2015? Por favor ELIJA UN Candidato de la Lista Abajo (en Orden alfabtico) o abstngase: * Harold Arcos * Juan Manuel Rojas * Abstencin *** Informacin Adicional Se Puede Encontrar En La pgina WIKI: https://community.icann.org/x/moAQAw.

Saludos,

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