[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Let us give to return the pagina From: apisan@servidor.unam.mx Carlos, your exposition seems wonderful to me and would make two notes to journey forwards: 1. we add the capacities of many of between us, and institutions with which we worked, to produce the qualificationthat you propose, and to put it in line decently. Let us take advantage of the possible ones sinergias with Diplo, the new program of ISOC leaders (of whichI am looking for the details to make them similar public) and other projects. 2. I believe that we must choose "issue" that is alive to focus ours intervention; this has been made successfully previously, if Iam not mistaken in the process of new gTLDs and other subjects. That focuses the attention, gives opportunity in which experienced people more participate simultaneously and serves like one it leaves from the qualification process when doing patent important his necessity and the specificities of the subjects that to take care of. In this it would return to the question of what subject is the one that better combines importance of the subject and capacity of our community. Warm greeting to all. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Carlos Aguirre wrote:

Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:14:45 +0000 > From: Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com> > To: apisan@servidor.unam.mx > Cc: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] returned Demos the pagina > > > Dear Alex. You agree with me in the 3 points mentioned in your mail. That is what I meant and your you reflected it with an excellent clarity. > > responding to your question, particularly I create the work must be centered in the qualification of you lead them regional to travez of outreach which we pruned to do from ALAC, and with the long aid of those who as Your and others are past anuses within the structure of ICANN and in all the related one to Internet. This qualification (naturally, it must count on the commitment of you lead them), traera a prepared without doubt greater and better participation than the existing today, where you lead them of the single region are limited to participate in questions related to electoral aspects and of! smaller document preparation (mainly), due tothat little knowledge of the questions that treats ICANN. Lamentably it has much to do with lack of document translation, lack of budget toinvite to you lead them to the ICANN meetings, the users need of an effective politica of communication on the part of ICANN, and of course also partly by the little will of many you lead to add itself to discucion. > > seems that we must give force him to the accomplishment of courses in each one of the subjects and using the tools that the Web gives us and that are many. This estare raising to the New Senior Director of Participation and Compromiso the friend Nick Ashton Hart in Nairobi. > > Nevertheless this is my humble version (summarized) and obvious podra to have other visions and gustaria to listen to them to us, by then to take that plan from action that you propose. I create is necessary that discussion of I diagnose to be able then to provide the remedy. > > With the participation ! and as subsequent result arrived the commitment that ICANN req! uests to you lead them. > > My two cents. > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > lawyer - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - > > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > > to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar > > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > > > > > Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:48:28 +0000 > > From: apisan@servidor.unam.mx > > To: carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com > > CC: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] returned Demos the pagina > > > > Carlos, > > > > I believe that all we would have to agree in: > > > > 1, to be thankful to all the equipment that lay down in shoulders the task of the pamphlet > > and made it successful; > > > > 2, to use the pamphlet; > > > > 3. if we already have one herramiienta that it invites to work... then pongámonos > > to work, with the same intensity, in the noun. > > > > In your analysis - and Andrés, the question I also do it for you - which is > > the best combination of a! ttention than gives to the rest of community ALAC and his > > leadership to certain subjects with the capacity of actionwithin LACRALO, > > to decide in what we put ourselves to work? > > > > Warm greeting. > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Carlos Aguirre w! rote: > > > > > Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:17:36 +0000! > > From: Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62@hotmail.com> > > > To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] returned Demos the pagina > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends. Despues of goings and comings as I wanted to show in my previous mail. The subject brochure is a surpassed subject,important the this fact and now to work with that important tool. I create is sufficient already with the innumerable amount of post office on the subject, gratefulness, congratulations, etc. to continuethis becomes Spam and detrimental for the work that must continue, with other many important things. > > > the work follows with Studying and knowing on other central aspects, we waited for much but of LACRALO, that single to make a goodpanfleto. > > > > > > hug > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > > > lawyer - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - > > > > > > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > &! gt; > > > > to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar > > > > > > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:35:41 +0000 > > > > From: to presidencia@internauta.org.ar > > > > To: lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > CC: priscila@internautabrasil.org; lac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org; lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org; lac-discuss-it is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Folleto/brouchure > > > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: HEAD OF CATTLE: Folleto/brouchure > > > > From: to to presidencia@internauta.org.ar > > > > > > > > Considered, with respect to last mails which they have been sent to the list I believe that there is > > > > ! to make some explanations with respect to the same one. > >! > &g t; > > > > 1º) to remove to any veil that opaque the work that we plows making: > > > > The images put in the pamphlet were the same ones from the beginning (dog be observed > > > > this in this pagina where they plows all the sent pamphlets: > > > > https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?lacralobrochure) I do not understand to that images > > > > it refers Fátima. > > > > > > > > for Except the first photo to which it makes Dev reference, and that by suggestion of Andrés > > > > Piazza - said by its spokeswoman Fátima, in our meetings (that did not seem to him good that > > > > photo, under that it showed single to parcialidad of the region working) was changed by this > > > > to another one in where if there were consensus in the work partyin putting it and which it reflected to all > > > > (almost all under that Jose needed Ovid) the members of the LACRALO. > > > &! gt; > > > > The same ones were approved by the majority of the members of the LACRALO in Time and forms > > > > when it was sent the preliminaries and were not suggestion on that. > > > > > > > > 2º) the disposition of the members speaking is not capricious but thatresponds to an to order > > > > aesthetic and of layout, since the to greater text boxes were putin with > > > > minors, in fact under that text enters the text of our Dev companion (who I arrive > > > > outside Time having had sufficient Time to emit it), it was necessary to request to to him > > > > Antonio Medina Go'mez who trims to their text in order that the text box of Dev enters - > > > > for Antonio thanks your greatness and understanding -. > > > > > > > > 3) With respect to the image in where it appears Fatimata, it is exactly for illustrates the box > > > > of text of the AT Large and not of th! e LACRALO mail ace it were put in the previous - this photo wa! s > > > > seizure in opportunity of ours summit and its commissions of work -. > > > > I must add that that photo is the "unique one that was not necessary to do processing to him of any type > > > > under that it was of excellent suitable quality and for the preparation and printing of the pamphlet). > > > > Warm Greetings > > > > Sergio > > > > Original Message > > > > From: "Fatima Cambronero" <fatimacambronero@gmail.com> > > > > To: "sylvia@prontocl" <sylvia@prontocl.com.br> > > > > Cc: "Priscila Marks Audi - Brazil" <priscila@internautabrasil.org>; > > > > <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; > > > > <lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; "LAC Discuss" > > > > <lac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:24 P.m. > > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Folleto/brouchure > > > > ! > > > > > > > Dev and all, > > > > > > > > in the first pleases I want to be thankful by the congratulations of > > > > all and to give back them, because it is to work which we obtained between all, > > > > with the different contributions, observations, corrections, details, > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > With respect to the last changes that Dev proposes: > > > > > > > > - If it seems to me that the to order in which could be modified they to appear > > > > members of LACRALO giving his opinión/frase, accommodating them by to order > > > > alphabetical, I to consider that it would be dwells tedious. > > > > > > > > - I a.m. not in agreement with which the first photo (of the column is eliminated > > > > # 4 of the tríptico) where they plows many of the members of LACRALO, > > > > unemployed and front. They PLOWS LA! CRALO. > > > > If ace suggests Dev would be necessary! to incl ude to photo of LACRALO in > > > > activity, working, in any marries could be eliminatedthe photo of > > > > Column # 5 (where it says "AT Large") and where they plows Fatimata and Sergio, > > > > since that photo is not LACRALO. In addition, I a.m. safe (and to this not it > > > > I talked with Sergio) who Sergio does not go to have problems in which there am is not > > > > its photo. With Sergio we worked to communicate to substantial idea > > > > about LACRALO and to their work (and we obtained it with the textof > > > > pamphlet), under it does not seem to that I have to me there are some "divismo" to leave > > > > in all the photos:) > > > > In photos addition Is sent to Mathias to mail to him with the text and the > > > > original and they plows not these that plows being published. > > > > > > > > With the rest of the pamphlet I agree in agreement and, and to co! nsider that > > > > it express what is our region. And I agree with whichSylvia says > > > > in mail a previous on the importance of "our" pamphlet. > > > > Probably when we see form it and in our hands and we pruned > > > > to make him act the diffusion ace, we realize there of which > > > > we obtained working all to together ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm greetings. > > > > > > > > Fà tima > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Day 11 of February of 2010 16:26, sylvia@prontocl > > > > <sylvia@prontocl.com.br> it wrote: > What the good news! > Tenemos to celebrate much! Perhaps now we do not realize the great one > importance that it thereare to have this pamphlet under that the community knows something of > what is ICANN and of which we do in ALAC. Single with real Time we will! see > importance when for example we plows able to arrive ! AT the t o diver ones > communities of end users of Internet and they plows united to ours > work. > All paises that forms LACRALO is being considered since > pamphlet will be printed in Spanish, English and Portuguese, fantastic! To great one > profit for the region, and that must without to doubt to the great work that all > we specially made but to Fatima and Sergio that had one to U.S. > Barbarian patience with the downtimes, the changes of material, with > translation, etc. Although also I cannot forget to me the great work > voluntary of our companion Accepts of Argentina Internaut, which I know very > well that passed tens of hours ace! > > > > opposed to compu to give "the phase him" that > today there are the pamphlet and also having much patience to U.S. with all > relaizados changes. Thanks, Accept! > Greetings to all and I hope thatthis there am is one of the many works that > we make to together by LACRALO. > Sylvia &! gt; _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large original Organization > sylvia@internautabrasil.org> > > > > -----Mensagem > Of: lac-discuss-it is - bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is - bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > Presidency Internaut > Shipment command post: fifth-feira, 11 of fevereiro of 201011:32 > For: lac-discuss-it is - bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org; > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org; LAC Discuss > Assunto: [ lac-discuss-is ] Folleto/brouchure > > Dear companions: > > Now if we dog to festejar! pamphlets these plows the finished inthe three > language! > > > > s (Spanish, Portuguese Ingles and) > https://st.icann.org/lacr! > > > > alo/inde > > > > x.cgi?lacralobrochure > > In name of Fà tima and mines, we! want to thank for all the companions of > LACRALO that the! reare co llaborated in the process of accomplishment of the same one. > >to special gratefulness to Accepts Garay de Internauta Argentina and to its equipment > of design and to Matthias to to langenegger by its unconditional work stops > to help to solve difficulties U.S. > > warmGreetings > > Sergio Saline I carry > Internaut > Argentina Association de Usuarios de Internet to to http://www.internauta.org.ar>; > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists...; icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists...; > HTTP://! > > > > www.lacralo! .org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fà tima Cambronero > > > > Lawyer-Argentina > > > > > > > > http://ar.ageiadensi.org/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (it is) > > > > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c96cff56c8.html > > > > --]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Now chateá from the beach with your celu. Registrate free to SMS Messenger. > > > http://www.somosmessengersiempre.com/?ocid=TWLH > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mai! lman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > &g! t; > > ; > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Now chateá from the beach with your celu. Registrate free to SMS Messenger. > http://www.somosmessengersiempre.com/?ocid=TWLH

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