Acerca del documento a presentar por LACRALO sobre nombres geográficos de la WT5
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Acerca del documento a presentar por LACRALO sobre nombres geográficos de la WT5 Desde:Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar> Dear friends, until yesterday at 22.00 UTC we had time to comment and propose modifications to the document on geographical names made by Adrian Carballo on behalf of the Region. We have not seen any type of manifestation about it, which proves that this document should not have modifications and that it has gained the general consensus of the region, therefore we are in a position to proceed to send this document on behalf of LACRALO , so that regional opinion is taken into account. I will ask the secretariat to carry out the usual procedures to send this as soon as possible. I send you a fraternal greeting Sergio Salinas Porto President Internaut Argentina - LACRALO / ICANN Argentine Association of Internet Users / FeTIA FUILAC- Federation of Internet Users of LAC facebook: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinas Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano [[--Original text (es) Translated by transbot 2.18-2.04 http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/571a421519.html --]]
Been busy with TTIGF but what is this statement being proposed given that an ALAC statement on this topic is being voted on? What is the difference between the ALAC statement and the Lacralo one ? Given the statement wasnt widely shared or properly discussed and I suspect the vast majority of Lacralo isn’t aware, i do not support such a statement since it’s not been made clear what the differences are. Dev Anand On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 12:53 PM, Sergio Salinas Porto < presidencia@internauta.org.ar> wrote:
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Subject: Acerca del documento a presentar por LACRALO sobre nombres geográficos de la WT5 Desde:Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar>
Dear friends, until yesterday at 22.00 UTC we had time to comment and propose modifications to the document on geographical names made by Adrian Carballo on behalf of the Region. We have not seen any type of manifestation about it, which proves that this document should not have modifications and that it has gained the general consensus of the region, therefore we are in a position to proceed to send this document on behalf of LACRALO , so that regional opinion is taken into account. I will ask the secretariat to carry out the usual procedures to send this as soon as possible. I send you a fraternal greeting Sergio Salinas Porto President Internaut Argentina - LACRALO / ICANN Argentine Association of Internet Users / FeTIA FUILAC- Federation of Internet Users of LAC facebook: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinas Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano
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I share Dev’s concern and also his position. Best regards Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 1:13 PM Cc: lac-discuss-en@icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Acerca del documento a presentar por LACRALO sobre nombres geográficos de la WT5 Been busy with TTIGF but what is this statement being proposed given that an ALAC statement on this topic is being voted on? What is the difference between the ALAC statement and the Lacralo one ? Given the statement wasnt widely shared or properly discussed and I suspect the vast majority of Lacralo isn’t aware, i do not support such a statement since it’s not been made clear what the differences are. Dev Anand On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 12:53 PM, Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar<mailto:presidencia@internauta.org.ar>> wrote: [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Acerca del documento a presentar por LACRALO sobre nombres geográficos de la WT5 Desde:Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar<mailto:presidencia@internauta.org.ar>> Dear friends, until yesterday at 22.00 UTC we had time to comment and propose modifications to the document on geographical names made by Adrian Carballo on behalf of the Region. We have not seen any type of manifestation about it, which proves that this document should not have modifications and that it has gained the general consensus of the region, therefore we are in a position to proceed to send this document on behalf of LACRALO , so that regional opinion is taken into account. I will ask the secretariat to carry out the usual procedures to send this as soon as possible. I send you a fraternal greeting Sergio Salinas Porto President Internaut Argentina - LACRALO / ICANN Argentine Association of Internet Users / FeTIA FUILAC- Federation of Internet Users of LAC facebook: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinas Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano [[--Original text (es) Translated by transbot 2.18-2.04 http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/571a421519.html --]] _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
I also echo Dev sentiments Niran On Fri, Jan 25, 2019, 13:31 Lance Hinds <brainstreetceo@gmail.com wrote:
I share Dev’s concern and also his position.
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------------------------------ *From:* lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2019 1:13 PM *Cc:* lac-discuss-en@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] Acerca del documento a presentar por LACRALO sobre nombres geográficos de la WT5
Been busy with TTIGF but what is this statement being proposed given that an ALAC statement on this topic is being voted on?
What is the difference between the ALAC statement and the Lacralo one ?
Given the statement wasnt widely shared or properly discussed and I suspect the vast majority of Lacralo isn’t aware, i do not support such a statement since it’s not been made clear what the differences are.
Dev Anand
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 12:53 PM, Sergio Salinas Porto < presidencia@internauta.org.ar> wrote:
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Subject: Acerca del documento a presentar por LACRALO sobre nombres geográficos de la WT5 Desde:Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar>
Dear friends, until yesterday at 22.00 UTC we had time to comment and propose modifications to the document on geographical names made by Adrian Carballo on behalf of the Region. We have not seen any type of manifestation about it, which proves that this document should not have modifications and that it has gained the general consensus of the region, therefore we are in a position to proceed to send this document on behalf of LACRALO , so that regional opinion is taken into account. I will ask the secretariat to carry out the usual procedures to send this as soon as possible. I send you a fraternal greeting Sergio Salinas Porto President Internaut Argentina - LACRALO / ICANN Argentine Association of Internet Users / FeTIA FUILAC- Federation of Internet Users of LAC facebook: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinas Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano
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This is interesting! I am asking the same questions put to the list by Dev. What is the basis of the objection LACRALO is being asked to support? Where is that resolved? I have read the ALAC Statement now in line for the vote and other than my own feeling that one could get lost in the weeds here, it appears thoughtful but breaks no new ground. However, this evinces why LACRALO policy WGs are not very useful for process. The ALAC Statement was developed from comments in the CPWG specific to the SubPRO WG Supplemental Report. Those of us who caucus with the GNSO-chartered SubPro WG would be familiar with the arguments raised there. If the intent of the unknown LACRALO statement is to influence the ALAC vote, this late run - and I cannot even extract what it means! - is too little and too late. To raise an objection now, at the time the ALAC vote is called, could properly be ignored by the rest of the At-Large world. If some members feel strongly that the ALAC is misguided and /or in disrepute, said members can make their individual comments on the public comment page associated with the Report. -Carlton Samuels The University of the West Indies On Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 12:13 pm Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com wrote:
Been busy with TTIGF but what is this statement being proposed given that an ALAC statement on this topic is being voted on?
What is the difference between the ALAC statement and the Lacralo one ?
Given the statement wasnt widely shared or properly discussed and I suspect the vast majority of Lacralo isn’t aware, i do not support such a statement since it’s not been made clear what the differences are.
Dev Anand
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 12:53 PM, Sergio Salinas Porto < presidencia@internauta.org.ar> wrote:
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Subject: Acerca del documento a presentar por LACRALO sobre nombres geográficos de la WT5 Desde:Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar>
Dear friends, until yesterday at 22.00 UTC we had time to comment and propose modifications to the document on geographical names made by Adrian Carballo on behalf of the Region. We have not seen any type of manifestation about it, which proves that this document should not have modifications and that it has gained the general consensus of the region, therefore we are in a position to proceed to send this document on behalf of LACRALO , so that regional opinion is taken into account. I will ask the secretariat to carry out the usual procedures to send this as soon as possible. I send you a fraternal greeting Sergio Salinas Porto President Internaut Argentina - LACRALO / ICANN Argentine Association of Internet Users / FeTIA FUILAC- Federation of Internet Users of LAC facebook: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinas Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano
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The most efficient part of the whole story is that your summary is just excellent. The only thing I need to read to find out how things stand! Cheers On January 25, 2019 2:33:57 PM CST, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
This is interesting! I am asking the same questions put to the list by Dev. What is the basis of the objection LACRALO is being asked to support? Where is that resolved?
I have read the ALAC Statement now in line for the vote and other than my own feeling that one could get lost in the weeds here, it appears thoughtful but breaks no new ground.
However, this evinces why LACRALO policy WGs are not very useful for process. The ALAC Statement was developed from comments in the CPWG specific to the SubPRO WG Supplemental Report. Those of us who caucus with the GNSO-chartered SubPro WG would be familiar with the arguments raised there.
If the intent of the unknown LACRALO statement is to influence the ALAC vote, this late run - and I cannot even extract what it means! - is too little and too late. To raise an objection now, at the time the ALAC vote is called, could properly be ignored by the rest of the At-Large world.
If some members feel strongly that the ALAC is misguided and /or in disrepute, said members can make their individual comments on the public comment page associated with the Report. -Carlton Samuels The University of the West Indies
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 12:13 pm Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com wrote:
Been busy with TTIGF but what is this statement being proposed given that an ALAC statement on this topic is being voted on?
What is the difference between the ALAC statement and the Lacralo one ?
Given the statement wasnt widely shared or properly discussed and I suspect the vast majority of Lacralo isn’t aware, i do not support such a statement since it’s not been made clear what the differences are.
Dev Anand
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 12:53 PM, Sergio Salinas Porto < presidencia@internauta.org.ar> wrote:
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Subject: Acerca del documento a presentar por LACRALO sobre nombres geográficos de la WT5 Desde:Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia@internauta.org.ar>
Dear friends, until yesterday at 22.00 UTC we had time to comment
and
propose modifications to the document on geographical names made by Adrian Carballo on behalf of the Region. We have not seen any type of manifestation about it, which proves that this document should not have modifications and that it has gained the general consensus of the region, therefore we are in a position to proceed to send this document on behalf of LACRALO , so that regional opinion is taken into account. I will ask the secretariat to carry out the usual procedures to send this as soon as possible. I send you a fraternal greeting Sergio Salinas Porto President Internaut Argentina - LACRALO / ICANN Argentine Association of Internet Users / FeTIA FUILAC- Federation of Internet Users of LAC facebook: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinas Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano
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participants (6)
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Carlos Raul Gutierrez -
Carlton Samuels -
Dev Anand Teelucksingh -
Lance Hinds -
Niran Beharry -
Sergio Salinas Porto