Re: [lac-discuss-en] CROP quitado del presupuesto de ICANN
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] [[--This message had format issues and was not translated properly--]] Subject:Re: CROP quitado del presupuesto de ICANN Desde:"Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan@unam.mx> Hello, There is so much that can not be understood if it is not understood that Leon was already exposed to the limit with what he wrote ... Preparing the community for the undeniable possibility that the counterpart has arguments: 1. What effect does the cancellation of the program have? less travel or just less bureaucracy? If travel is reduced, Is it the cancellation effect of the program or a budgetary readjustment? 2. if you were to argue in defense of the program, What would be the essential points of your contribution that would stand out? What I record by heart is the incorporation of ONE Haitian organization that can be attributed to the CROP (P) activity of Alberto Sot. And during the years that CROPP was in force, in what did LACRALO improve as part of ICANN? (as a reference: the situation of LACRALO reached the point of requiring the intervention of two professional mediators, one year after its inception remains unfinished).And the participation of a sub-region that has the most votes has practically vanished in that same year. 3. punctually, What can be noted as an increase in LACRALO interventions in the ICANN PDPs attributable to CROPP? what other objectives of the program were satisfied, and could not be without it? Objective arguments for greater success, if possible. 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Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From: lac-discuss-es [lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of DIEGO ALFONSO ACOSTA BASTIDAS [dacostabastidas@dtech.ec] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 15: 47 To: León Felipe Sánchez Ambía CC: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] CROP removed from ICANN's budget Dear Le + on Felipe What do you think if we jointly prepare a draft for discussion, evaluation and contributions from the community. Atte Diego Acosta Bastidas On February 14, 2018, 13:25, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx> wrote: Hi Humberto and Alberto, I think a joint statement plus one from the ALAC would have a lot of weight. On this side I am also following up. regards Lion Sent from my iPhone Feb 14, 2018, at 10:29 am, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob@gmail.com> wrote: Alberto, Even when I'm on vacation, I've been reviewing this issue and pending emails. We agree that we must make the respective claim. We'll see if we can do all the RALOS together too. regards Humberto Carrasco Blanc Lawyer Associate Professor Economic-Commercial Law Universidad Católica del Norte - Coquimbo LLM Queen Mary University of London PhD University of Edinburgh On 02-14-2018, at 12:43, Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote: Dear, it has been confirmed that the CROP program will no longer be in the next ICANN budget. I suggest to the leadership of LACRALO to consider this situation, in order to make a claim to be considered necessary. Below the explanation after a query. Best regards Alberto Soto Do not.In considering the cost of support to constituent travelers in the draft FY19 budget, as the locations of ICANN Public meetings in FY19 are more expensive than in FY18 and I CAN s resources are stable, ICANN has suggested to preserve the core constituent travel support to SOs / ACs to participate in ICANN Public meetings but eliminate the fund of the CROP, among other reductions. 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Alejandro, regarding #1, According to https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-fy19-opplan-budget-questio..., #13, CROP was eliminated this year, to compensate for the higher costs of the ICANN meeting locations and in order to not reduce the number of funded travellers to ICANN meetings. Of course, once it is gone this year, it will be easy to not restart it even if meeting costs go down. When the meeting strategy group said we should travel to various parts of the world and not just use hub cities, I do not think that they understood that this might be a result. Perhaps the answer would be different if it was understood. One can ask lots of questions here, about what other parts of ICANN are having reduced travel funding. At the same time, the overall SO/AC budget was cut in half, and that is another source that has been used for travel in the past. Your Question #2 is key. Can we show that there were real benefits from past CROP(P) trips. And of course I mean not only for LACRALO but other RALOs and other parts of ICANN as well. Alan At 14/02/2018 04:55 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:
Subject:Re: CROP quitado del presupuesto de ICANN Desde:"Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <<https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en>apisan at unam.mx>
Hello,
There is so much that can not be understood if it is not understood that Leon was already exposed to the limit with what he wrote ...
Preparing the community for the undeniable possibility that the counterpart has arguments:
1. What effect does the cancellation of the program have? less travel or just less bureaucracy? If travel is reduced, Is it the cancellation effect of the program or a budgetary readjustment?
2. if you were to argue in defense of the program, What would be the essential points of your contribution that would stand out? What I record by heart is the incorporation of ONE Haitian organization that can be attributed to the CROP (P) activity of Alberto Sot. And during the years that CROPP was in force, in what did LACRALO improve as part of ICANN? (as a reference: the situation of LACRALO reached the point of requiring the intervention of two professional mediators, one year after its inception remains unfinished).And the participation of a sub-region that has the most votes has practically vanished in that same year.
3. punctually, What can be noted as an increase in LACRALO interventions in the ICANN PDPs attributable to CROPP? what other objectives of the program were satisfied, and could not be without it?
Objective arguments for greater success, if possible.
Alejandro Pisanty
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