NETmundial - Important
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: NETmundial - Important From: josefranciscoarce@gmail.com Dear, Many members of our region and traveling to Netmundial ESTN first I wish them well regret not being able acompaarlos ally, recent Fatherhood made my priorities changed. 1) Trado also regret not having this issue before and so little time, but would have been nice to make a declaration on LACRALO Documents Netmundial and members representing the region with a solid document instead of going as individuals. With aclaracin that it would be difficult to find consensus in the comments perhaps all principles dems and documents, but the debate would have been productive. However, you can comment even as they close on April 21 at 12:00 UTC. Already received more than 188 documents of 46 passes different. http://document.netmundial.br Principles: <http://document.netmundial.br/1-internet-governance-principles/
Roadmap: < http://document.netmundial.br/2-roadmap-for-the-future-evolution-of-the-inte...
2) Likewise this period pblicos comments in the document group "ICANN Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance's Submission to NETMundial "which expires on April 29, I consider some logical since Netmundial serel 23 and April 24. Not understand the true scope of the group as they must have a job Preview Netmundial ready before and no later. Hopefully one of its members will not store in the list (Olivier, Leon Felipe) Here the other Member https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+th... Comment Period: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ccwg-ig-netmundial-08apr14-en.ht... Regards - Arce, JosF. http://lnkd.in/bPdTThz _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/28673433a2.html --]]
Dear José, thank you for your kind email. As you correctly say, the Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance has submitted a document to NetMundial. During the public session of the Working Group with the community, the audience suggested that we send the document out for a public comment. This was agreed by the group. The only problem is that a formal public comment period is minimum 21 days initial comment period and 21 days reply comment period = 42 days.... and Netmundial was less than 30 days away!!! The working group was not allowed to make the comment period shorter. Some members of the working group reminded us that NetMundial is not the start and the end of the discussion. There will be other meetings on Internet Governance after NetMundial, so it was decided by the working group members that it should launch an ICANN-wide formal public comment and that working group members could use the input received to expand on any points during NetMundial and could also use the information after NetMundial for future meetings. That said, it also looks like many cross community working group members are going to NetMundial to defend their own point of view, as a member of their community or sometimes as a member of their company or organisation, independently from the working group. I will be going to São Paulo and frankly, I do not know what hat I need to wear. Do I need to wear the hat of the coordinator of the cross community working group? Do I need to wear the ALAC Chair hat? There will also be many members of At-Large at NetMundial and specifically several members from LACRALO. I will look forward to meeting with them and to coordinate the points that we want to defend together. Our community have local ALSes and several members who are very experienced in Internet Governance - I hope we can make use of them. Kind regards, Olivier On 19/04/2014 15:41, josefranciscoarce@gmail.com wrote:
2) Likewise this period pblicos comments in the document group "ICANN Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance's Submission to NETMundial "which expires on April 29, I consider some logical since Netmundial serel 23 and April 24. Not understand the true scope of the group as they must have a job Preview Netmundial ready before and no later. Hopefully one of its members will not store in the list (Olivier, Leon Felipe) Here the other Member https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+th...
Comment Period: http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ccwg-ig-netmundial-08apr14-en.ht...
Dear Olivier, Thanks for your email and your explanation about the Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance and the document elaborated to NetMundial. Regarding the hat that you need to wear to the meeting, in my opinion you should wear the ALAC Chair hat. The CCWG on IG has not Charter yet and as you explain the document has not received input from the community yet. I will look forward to meeting with you and LACRALO's colleagues attending Sao Paulo meeting. Have a safe trip. Best Regards, Fatima 2014-04-20 12:44 GMT-03:00 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com>:
Dear José,
thank you for your kind email. As you correctly say, the Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance has submitted a document to NetMundial. During the public session of the Working Group with the community, the audience suggested that we send the document out for a public comment. This was agreed by the group. The only problem is that a formal public comment period is minimum 21 days initial comment period and 21 days reply comment period = 42 days.... and Netmundial was less than 30 days away!!! The working group was not allowed to make the comment period shorter.
Some members of the working group reminded us that NetMundial is not the start and the end of the discussion. There will be other meetings on Internet Governance after NetMundial, so it was decided by the working group members that it should launch an ICANN-wide formal public comment and that working group members could use the input received to expand on any points during NetMundial and could also use the information after NetMundial for future meetings.
That said, it also looks like many cross community working group members are going to NetMundial to defend their own point of view, as a member of their community or sometimes as a member of their company or organisation, independently from the working group.
I will be going to São Paulo and frankly, I do not know what hat I need to wear. Do I need to wear the hat of the coordinator of the cross community working group? Do I need to wear the ALAC Chair hat? There will also be many members of At-Large at NetMundial and specifically several members from LACRALO. I will look forward to meeting with them and to coordinate the points that we want to defend together. Our community have local ALSes and several members who are very experienced in Internet Governance - I hope we can make use of them.
Kind regards,
Olivier
On 19/04/2014 15:41, josefranciscoarce@gmail.com wrote:
2) Likewise this period pblicos comments in the document group "ICANN Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance's Submission to NETMundial "which expires on April 29, I consider some logical since Netmundial serel 23 and April 24. Not understand the true scope of the group as they must have a job Preview Netmundial ready before and no later. Hopefully one of its members will not store in the list (Olivier, Leon Felipe) Here the other Member
https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+th...
Comment Period:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ccwg-ig-netmundial-08apr14-en.ht...
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Dear Fatima, thank you for your kind follow-up. You make a very good point about the WG having no charter yet so I should wear the ALAC Chair hat. See you in São Paulo! Kind regards, Olivier On 20/04/2014 18:32, Fatima Cambronero wrote:
Dear Olivier,
Thanks for your email and your explanation about the Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance and the document elaborated to NetMundial. Regarding the hat that you need to wear to the meeting, in my opinion you should wear the ALAC Chair hat. The CCWG on IG has not Charter yet and as you explain the document has not received input from the community yet. I will look forward to meeting with you and LACRALO's colleagues attending Sao Paulo meeting.
Have a safe trip.
Best Regards, Fatima
2014-04-20 12:44 GMT-03:00 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>>:
Dear José,
thank you for your kind email. As you correctly say, the Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance has submitted a document to NetMundial. During the public session of the Working Group with the community, the audience suggested that we send the document out for a public comment. This was agreed by the group. The only problem is that a formal public comment period is minimum 21 days initial comment period and 21 days reply comment period = 42 days.... and Netmundial was less than 30 days away!!! The working group was not allowed to make the comment period shorter.
Some members of the working group reminded us that NetMundial is not the start and the end of the discussion. There will be other meetings on Internet Governance after NetMundial, so it was decided by the working group members that it should launch an ICANN-wide formal public comment and that working group members could use the input received to expand on any points during NetMundial and could also use the information after NetMundial for future meetings.
That said, it also looks like many cross community working group members are going to NetMundial to defend their own point of view, as a member of their community or sometimes as a member of their company or organisation, independently from the working group.
I will be going to São Paulo and frankly, I do not know what hat I need to wear. Do I need to wear the hat of the coordinator of the cross community working group? Do I need to wear the ALAC Chair hat? There will also be many members of At-Large at NetMundial and specifically several members from LACRALO. I will look forward to meeting with them and to coordinate the points that we want to defend together. Our community have local ALSes and several members who are very experienced in Internet Governance - I hope we can make use of them.
Kind regards,
Olivier
On 19/04/2014 15:41, josefranciscoarce@gmail.com <mailto:josefranciscoarce@gmail.com> wrote: > 2) > Likewise this period pblicos comments in the document > group "ICANN > Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance's Submission to > NETMundial "which expires on April 29, > I consider some logical since Netmundial serel 23 and April 24. Not > understand the true scope of the group as they must have a job > Preview Netmundial ready before and no later. > Hopefully one of its members will not store in the list (Olivier, Leon Felipe) > Here the other Member > https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+th... > > > Comment Period: > http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ccwg-ig-netmundial-08apr14-en.ht...
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Olivier, Fatima, Thanks for your comments. It seem that formal public comment period does not fit in some situation (like this), so maybe is one thing to review or discuss. Regarding Netmundial i am very happy to see so many friends involved. I agree with Fatima regarding the hat, and we have to trust our member as individuals or represenring their company or organisation, independently. Because as we have tryed to reach from Buenos Aires meeting, have a formal place in netmundial , but ICANN does not think we are part of civil society and they did not take At-large into in acount. Wish you all the best in the meeting See you remotly Jose El abr 20, 2014 1:40 PM, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl@gih.com> escribió:
Dear Fatima,
thank you for your kind follow-up. You make a very good point about the WG having no charter yet so I should wear the ALAC Chair hat. See you in São Paulo! Kind regards,
Olivier
On 20/04/2014 18:32, Fatima Cambronero wrote:
Dear Olivier,
Thanks for your email and your explanation about the Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance and the document elaborated to NetMundial. Regarding the hat that you need to wear to the meeting, in my opinion you should wear the ALAC Chair hat. The CCWG on IG has not Charter yet and as you explain the document has not received input from the community yet. I will look forward to meeting with you and LACRALO's colleagues attending Sao Paulo meeting.
Have a safe trip.
Best Regards, Fatima
2014-04-20 12:44 GMT-03:00 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com>:
Dear José,
thank you for your kind email. As you correctly say, the Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance has submitted a document to NetMundial. During the public session of the Working Group with the community, the audience suggested that we send the document out for a public comment. This was agreed by the group. The only problem is that a formal public comment period is minimum 21 days initial comment period and 21 days reply comment period = 42 days.... and Netmundial was less than 30 days away!!! The working group was not allowed to make the comment period shorter.
Some members of the working group reminded us that NetMundial is not the start and the end of the discussion. There will be other meetings on Internet Governance after NetMundial, so it was decided by the working group members that it should launch an ICANN-wide formal public comment and that working group members could use the input received to expand on any points during NetMundial and could also use the information after NetMundial for future meetings.
That said, it also looks like many cross community working group members are going to NetMundial to defend their own point of view, as a member of their community or sometimes as a member of their company or organisation, independently from the working group.
I will be going to São Paulo and frankly, I do not know what hat I need to wear. Do I need to wear the hat of the coordinator of the cross community working group? Do I need to wear the ALAC Chair hat? There will also be many members of At-Large at NetMundial and specifically several members from LACRALO. I will look forward to meeting with them and to coordinate the points that we want to defend together. Our community have local ALSes and several members who are very experienced in Internet Governance - I hope we can make use of them.
Kind regards,
Olivier
On 19/04/2014 15:41, josefranciscoarce@gmail.com wrote:
2) Likewise this period pblicos comments in the document group "ICANN Cross Community Working Group on Internet Governance's Submission to NETMundial "which expires on April 29, I consider some logical since Netmundial serel 23 and April 24. Not understand the true scope of the group as they must have a job Preview Netmundial ready before and no later. Hopefully one of its members will not store in the list (Olivier, Leon Felipe) Here the other Member
https://community.icann.org/display/CPMMB/ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+th...
Comment Period:
http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ccwg-ig-netmundial-08apr14-en.ht...
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-- Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhDhttp://www.gih.com/ocl.html
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Fatima Cambronero -
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José Francisco Arce
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Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond