[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? REMINDER = 3A_Solicitud_de_Come? == Iso-8859-1? Q? Ntarios = 3A_Proyecto_de_At-Large_Declaraci = F3n_de_la_Visi? == Iso-8859-1? Q? = F3n_ -_Fecha_l = EDmite_para_observaciones_17_de_mayo? = From: apisan@unam.mx Hi all, I consider it essential that the vision of At-Large include the construction of a network of trust between organizations and that based on this trust that we produce confidence in the voice of users an when we are not made with a formal global representation. The concept of "Web of Trust" is key to winning trust, transparency and accountability rendicin. No stas, the whole concept of At-Large is weakened to near collapse. If there is consensus on this issue, we must promote it. Alejandro Pisanty ! ! ! !! NEW PHONE NUMBER - NEW PHONE NUMBER FROM ABROAD +52-1-41444475 FROM +525541444475 MXICO Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, AvUniversity 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Ph. +52- (1) -55-5105-6044, +52- (1) -55-5418-3732 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of jam@jacquelinemorris.com [jam@jacquelinemorris.com] Posted on: Thursday, May 17, 2012 15:51 To: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: lac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org; LACRALO discussion list; NARALO Discussion List; ICANN At-Large Staff; alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: REMINDER: Request for Comments: At-Large Draft Declaration of the vision - closing date for comments 17 May [[- Translated text (in -> en) -]] Subject: Re: REMINDER: Request for Comments: At-Large Draft Declaration of the vision - closing date for comments 17 May From: jam@jacquelinemorris.com I agree with Alan, and I think the detail member of the Board assucesivamente selecciny are not particularly suitable for a Declaration of vision. However, the proposed Declaration is a bit awkward, in my eyes, especially in the use of the verb forms to refer to the singular plural subject ", ALAC and At-Large". With regard to the fact that vision is a Declaration of the At-Large, I see no need to explicitly include or RALO ALAC at all, given that both are integral parts of the Community. Jacqueline A. Morris The technology should be like oxygen: ubiquitous, necessary, invisible and Free. (AfterChris Lehmann) On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 15:04, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> escribitbNL> > I'm afraid that although I have some problems

with the proposed vision statement, I do not think that these changes go in the right direction. Two main reasons:

- To say that the At-Large Community (and not the upper case C as per the ICANN Bylaw definition) is there to strenghten the RALOs is a largely circular definition as the RALOs are a core integral part of the ALC.

- Listing that we exist to select a Board member sends a VERY wrong message in my mind. It is a perk of participating in the ICANN ecosystem, but is certainly not our raison d'être.

The issue of ALAC over At-Large can be addressed by simply reversing their order.

Regarding the original statement, I find "catalyzes" the perfect word here, from a point of view of meaning, but do question whether it will be as good in translation.

Alan

At 15/05/2012 09:39 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:

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Hi everyone,

Thanks for circulating this draft Vision Statement. I would have liked to see a clear plain language and easily translatable Vision. Phrases like "brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters" are just vague in my opinion. Vision Statements must have a mechanism of measurement as to whether they are being met or not and therefore must be precise.

Also I find it is inapt for the ALAC to be the first structure mentioned in an At Large Vision statement. Perhaps the intention is the mix the two? But I would advise against this route, and instead suggest providing a Vision Statement of ALAC separately.

My amended proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:

* The At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive, tangible and meaningful participation of Internet end-users worldwide in ICANN matters, particularly through its work in strengthening the RALOs, its representation by the ALAC and its selection of the ICANN At-Large Board Member.

Kind regards

Cintra Sooknanan

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff < staff@atlarge.icann.org> wrote:

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Dear All,

A friendly reminder that the comment period for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement closes on Thursday, 17 May.

The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:

* The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive, meaningful participation of Internet end-users world-wide, aggregates their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters.

Please use the comments function on this <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> wiki page to add any suggestions or send your comments to At-Large Staff at: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> staff@atlarge.icann.org.

Regards,

Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie Peregrine

ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC

E-mail: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> staff@atlarge.icann.org

From: ICANN At-Large Staff [mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM To: alac-announce@atlarge-lists.icann.org; 'afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org'; apralo; Discussion for At-Large Europe; LACRALO discussion list; 'lac-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org'; NARALO Discussion List Cc: 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond'; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'; ICANN At-Large Staff Subject: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement

Dear All,

The ALAC Improvements Review WG Final Report included a recommendation that "the ALAC should develop strategic and operational planning processes (including performance criteria and cost information) as part of ICANN's planning process." (Recommendation 5 <https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Recommendation+5> ).

As part of the implementation of this recommendation, the At-Large Improvements Implementation Work Team C created an action item to "articulate ALAC's and At-Large's vision and mission."

The At-Large Improvements Taskforce developed a proposed At-Large Vision Statement during their meeting at the 43rd ICANN Meeting in Costa Rica.

The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:

. The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive, meaningful participation of Internet end-users world-wide, aggregates their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters.

Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, and Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chair of the At-Large Improvements Taskforce, have outlined the following next steps for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement:

. 4-17 May 2012 - This proposed At-Large Vision statement is open for comments between 4-17 May 2012. Please use the comments function on this wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> to add any suggestions or send your comments to At-Large Staff at: staff@atlarge.icann.org.

. 21 May 2012 - The At-Large Improvements Taskforce will review and incorporate comments received during their 21 May meeting.

. 22 May 2012 - The ALAC will review the proposed At-Large Vision Statement during their 22 May ALAC meeting and vote whether to ratify it.

Regards,

Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie Peregrine

ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC

E-mail: staff@atlarge.icann.org

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