[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á_tarjeta_de_votaci=F3n = From: andrespiazza@gmail.com Considered, it confuses to me to read that it is spoken of "votes" in the list. It had consensus via teleconferencing (we took 45 minutes in obtainingit) to know that the one is not Directed Voto that we make the representatives, In my particular case, quedà hoping© to me up to 30 minutes before the closing of the term to vote. Voté being able to have leÃdo almost all the contributions to list. To be very honest, which inclines to me by Sebastien Bachollet is very slight, very fit. Each argument that I read, of Carlton, Vanda, of Evan, of each one of you, puts me in doubt. I have spoken with tens of people, leÃdo arguments, counter-arguments, on Alan, on Sebastien, written by them and others, I have seenhis file of participación (although I have followed them kindly in his races in 5 años to both). I create, like many, that Sebastiencan to us to represent suitably. But también I feel that Alan serÃa representative. I do not believe in the myth about that Alan "can not represent to the users ". In fact, although Carlos and Sylvia felt, thought and lisis concluded his in the same way anà that I, voting to Sebastien, one part of my is glad that Carlton (pointed at nomcom, can vote by quién it wants), has chosen Alan. It is a balance and I feel fact with justice. As far as mÃ, particularly the difference is very meager. Voté a Sebastien, but wanted to follow reading them. And I close with one reflexión that watches "the full average glass".I am contented with the level of participación, with cómo they have become jumbled, with the contributions that they have done. In this list, many complain and are crÃÂticos (I I am one of mà s crÃÂticos) by the level, quality and flight of participación. Today then, I want to congratulate them. And I am going them to continue reading until mañana. If somebody wants to add mà s elements of anà lisis, serà a pleasure. And if somebody wants to request to me to màthat it extends to me in my considerations, haré. MÃÂo is not a vote directed by LACRALO, but if attempt to be mà s representative possible on which I read acÃ. Less than I can do is to be widely available to give my explanations. Again, I congratulate and them breath to follow. I propose to them that the week próxima in Cartagena we break the remote record of participación of people of Thin in a ICANN meeting- data of Sydney, and has LACRALO- and,también, that we increase the quality of participación in subjects of Policy, like it did, at least in this debate of the Voting Director. Because architecture and elección of representatives in influence spaces, is certainlyPolicy (ademà s of Politics). :) A warm greeting for you. Andrés Piazza President of LACRALO The 27 of November of 2010 17:42, Jose Ovid Salgueiro <salgueiro.jo@ gmail.com > escribió:
I support Silvia to You. The votes that were emitted últimamente were made a > destiempo. > > Step the one of always, does not take acción until it is very late > > JOS > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry de Movistar > > -----Original Message > From: <sylvia@internautabrasil.org> > Sender: lac-discuss-it is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Date: The Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:55:30 > To: <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: card of votación > > Dear Jaqueline, > Disculpe to have responded to him before. > I am totally in agreement with you and you are why day 22 of > mail November© envià um to list soliciing one votación (Doodle) of > everything lacralo so that their representatives voted by mandate. > As that did not become and until 25 day mayoria of the commentaries was > in favor of Sebastien, I voté by él. > was not conjectures! And he is mà s, some ALSs of the Ca! ribbean thatwere pronounced > in favor of Alan did después of the voting schedule. > Greetings > Sylvia > _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > Secretary FLUI - www.fuilatin.org > LACRALO-ALAC Member > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > -----Mensagem original > Of: mailto lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [: > lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > jam@jacquelinemorris.com > Shipment command post: sixth-feira, 26 of novembro of 2010 12:02 > For: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: Re: card of votación > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: card of votación > Of: jam@jacquelinemorris.com > > of my spera account Ã, habÃÂa on equal levels of the aid stops > > both > Sebastien and Alan - conté 6 for Alan and 7 for Sebastien. Puedotener faltó > some, so! that porqué I am suitable with the order of Alex a civ! il emplo yee > counts, so that we know the vote true of the ALSes, and notas soon as one > conjectures. > > Jacqueline To Morris > tecnologÃÂa must be like the oxÃÂgeno: Ubicuo, necessary, invisible and > frees. > (después of Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) > > > > fri, of nov the 26 of 2010 in 9:52, <joseluis@barzallo.com> escribió: > > > [ [ - - translated text (is - >)--]] of in > > > subject: Re: > > > card of votación > of: joseluis@barzallo.com > > compañeros > > > wanted > > à > like one està leaving to vote, exists a certain mechanism to do it > directly? > since then > después of which a reacondicionamiento of > the received insumos we has to me decides to the aid to > Sebastien > Bachollet. > > Hot Greetings > > Jose Luis Barzallo > > AEDIT > > > www.aedit.org.ec > > Columbus 535 and 6 of December > Edif.Cristóbal > Columbus Of. 602 > T! elf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 > fax: 593 2 2564530 > > email: joseluis@barzallo.com > Exempt Ecuador > CONFIDENTIAL > INFORMACIÃ"n: > PROHIBE the DIFUSIÃ"n, COMMUNICATIONOr > PUBLICACIÃ"n > OF THIS INFORMACIÃ"n to > THIRD WITHOUT the EXPRESS AUTORIZACIÃ"n ÃÂL INSIDE > WRITING and OF > BARZALLO and > BARZALLO LAWYERS. THIS INFORMACIÃÂâÂÂN IS DUE TO KEEP WITH > SECURITIES > WHEN THE EAST THAT IS NOT USED. IF YOU ARE NOT THE ADRESSEE> OF THIS > email, YOU DEBERA TO ERASE IT and TO GIVE IT to DETRàS tothe TRANSMITTER > and > PODRA NOT TO READ, > To The Copy Or TO DISTRIBUTE ITS ANNEXED And CONTAINED SALARY. > CUALQUIEROPINIONEXPRESSED INSIDE >! > THIS MESSAGE, NOT NOT NECESSARILY CORRESPONDS to ITS AUTHOR and ToBARZALLO and > > BARZALLO. LAWYERS > > > original -----Mensaje > of: lacquer-to discuss is - > bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is - > bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] in n! ame of > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > sent: Friday, 2! 6 of Nov ember of 2010 > 7:51 > stops: ' Alexander Pisanty ' > CENTàMETER CÃÂà BICO: > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > subject: [ lacquer-discuss-is ] TRACK > OF CATTLES: QUARTER FOR LOSDOCE: cÃÂómo à ' à > is going to vote? > > > CompaÃÂñeros > wanted: > Segun all the post office sent to the list of LACRALO by you > COM > the commentaries in the candidates, and by my personal convictions, > I have > voted to Sebastien. immediately >, > Syliva > > _________________________________________________________ >Sylvia Herlein > Leite > secretary FLUI - www.fuilatin.org > Member of LACRALO-ALAC > > Latin©rich AmÃÂà and OrganizaciÃÂón En-Grande Of the Regional Caribbean > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > original of -----Mensagem > of: > lacquer-to discuss is - bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto: > lac-discuss-is - bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] commando post ! > nome > of Alexander > post of commando sent of Pisanty: fifth-feira, 25 of > novembro of 201021:08 > stops: sylvia@internautabrasil.org > centÃÂÃÂmetro > cÃÂúbico: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: [ > lacquer-discuss-is ] QUARTER FOR the TWELVE: to cÃÂómo goes à ' à > vote? > > hello > colleagues, and in the individual that is going to exert inthe of the vote > selecciÃÂón > > IN Great: > à ' à > we are not on the last hours to vote? >à ' à > > quÃÂé conclusions has reached that they are going to vote? > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av University. 3000, 04510 xico©MÃÂà DF xico©MÃÂà > > Tels. > +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * my blog of blog/My: > http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * you promarry of LinkedIn towards outside: > http:! //www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitte > ! r.com/ap isanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/ÃÂà '<http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/%C3%83%C6%92> > <http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/%C3%83> > ' 106C0C8614 > > * sees ISOC > xico©MÃÂÃ, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * participates in > ICANN, http://www.icann.org... . . . . . . . . . >. . . . .. . . . . . . >. . > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >[ [ - > - original text (it is) > > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/7ãbed77dd.html > --]]> > > > > _______________________________________________ > list thatenvÃÂÃÂa > lacquer-to discuss-the! > c-discuss-in > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_arc! hive/27df97be42.html > --]] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org >
-- * Andrés Piazza * www.andrespiazza.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6711311f62.html --]]
Dear Andres, It appears that you are attempting to decorate this flaw in the process and convince us that we should adhere to and appreciate it. You have stated --- "*In fact, while Carlos and Sylvia felt, thought and concluded their analysis the same way as me, voting for Sebastien, a part of me is glad that Carlton (NomCom targeted, you can vote for who he wants), has elected Alan. It is a balance and I feel justice done."* It is clear the Caribbean ALSes believe that Alan is the better choice, while our Latin American colleagues have identified a preference for Sebastien. It is a little insulting for Caribbean ALSes to accept that our viewpoint be represented by Carlton, as he is voting on behalf of NOMCOM and should not at all be bound by LACRALO. If there were balance (that you stake Justice has been done upon), then we would suggest that the LACRALO vote be split down he middle to represent aptly these two differing views. Otherwise just say that you have voted on your own accord and keep Justice out of it! I understand that second round voting is yet to come, but it is necessary that our representation is not only felt but also demonstrated. Cintra Sooknanan Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society En Espanol: Querido Andrés, Parece que está intentando para decorar esta falla en el proceso y convencernos de que debemos respetar y apreciar. Usted ha dicho --- "De hecho, mientras que Carlos y Sylvia sentía, pensaba, y concluyó su análisis de la misma manera que yo, el voto a Sebastien, una parte de mí se alegra de que Carlton (NomCom específica, usted puede votar por quien quiere ), ha elegido a Alan. Es un equilibrio y creo que se haga justicia. " Está claro que el Caribe ALSes creen que Alan es la mejor opción, mientras que nuestros colegas de América Latina han señalado su preferencia por Sebastien. Es un poco insultante para ALSes el Caribe a aceptar que nuestro punto de vista de ser representado por Carlton, como lo es el voto en nombre del Comité de nominaciones y no debería en absoluto ser obligado por LACRALO. Si hubiera equilibrio (que juego se ha hecho justicia a), entonces le sugerimos que la votación LACRALO se divide por él medio para representar adecuadamente estos dos puntos de vista diferentes. De lo contrario sólo decir que han votado en su propia justicia y mantener fuera de él! Entiendo que la segunda ronda de votación está por venir, pero es necesario que nuestra representación no sólo se siente, pero también demostró. Cintra Sooknanan Trinidad y Tobago Soceity Informática On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 5:37 PM, <andrespiazza@gmail.com> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á_tarjeta_de_votaci=F3n = > From: andrespiazza@gmail.com > > Considered, it confuses to me to read that it is spoken of "votes" in the > list. It had > consensus via teleconferencing (we took 45 minutes in obtainingit) to know > that the one is not Directed Voto that we make the representatives, > > In my particular case, quedà hoping© to me up to 30 minutes before the > closing > of the term to vote. Voté being able to have leÃdo almost all the > contributions to > list. To be very honest, which inclines to me by Sebastien Bachollet is > very slight, very fit. Each argument that I read, of Carlton, Vanda, of > Evan, of each one of you, puts me in doubt. > > I have spoken with tens of people, leÃdo arguments, counter-arguments, > on Alan, on Sebastien, written by them and others, I have seenhis > file of participación (although I have followed them kindly in his > races in 5 años to both). I create, like many, that Sebastiencan to us > to represent suitably. But también I feel that Alan serÃa > representative. I do not believe in the myth about that Alan "can not > represent > to the users ". In fact, although Carlos and Sylvia felt, thought and > lisis concluded his in the same way anà that I, voting to Sebastien, one > part of my is glad that Carlton (pointed at nomcom, can vote by quién > it wants), has chosen Alan. It is a balance and I feel fact with > justice. > > As far as mÃ, particularly the difference is very meager. Voté a > Sebastien, but wanted to follow reading them. > > And I close with one reflexión that watches "the full average glass".I am > contented > with the level of participación, with cómo they have become jumbled, > with the contributions > that they have done. In this list, many complain and are crÃÂticos (I I > am one of > mà s crÃÂticos) by the level, quality and flight of participación. > Today > then, I want to congratulate them. And I am going them to continue reading > until mañana. If > somebody wants to add mà s elements of anà lisis, serà a pleasure. And > if > somebody wants to request to me to màthat it extends to me in my > considerations, haré. > MÃÂo is not a vote directed by LACRALO, but if attempt to be mà s > representative possible on which I read acÃ. Less than I can do is > to be widely available to give my explanations. > > Again, I congratulate and them breath to follow. I propose to them that the > week > próxima in Cartagena we break the remote record of participación of > people of > Thin in a ICANN meeting- data of Sydney, and has LACRALO- > and,también, > that we increase the quality of participación in subjects of Policy, > like > it did, at least in this debate of the Voting Director. Because > architecture and > elección of representatives in influence spaces, is certainlyPolicy > (ademà s of Politics). :) > > A warm greeting for you. > > Andrés Piazza > President of LACRALO > > The 27 of November of 2010 17:42, Jose Ovid Salgueiro <salgueiro.jo@ > gmail.com > escribió: > > I support Silvia to You. The votes that were emitted últimamente were > made a > destiempo. > > Step the one of always, does not take acción > until it is very late > > JOS > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry de > Movistar > > -----Original Message > From: <sylvia@internautabrasil.org> > > Sender: lac-discuss-it is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Date: The > Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:55:30 > To: <lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; > <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: > card of votación > > Dear Jaqueline, > Disculpe to have responded to him > before. > I am totally in agreement with you and you are why day 22 of > > mail November© envià um to list soliciing one votación (Doodle) of > > everything lacralo so that their representatives voted by mandate. > As > that did not become and until 25 day mayoria of the commentaries was > in > favor of Sebastien, I voté by él. > was not conjectures! And > he is mà s, some ALSs of the Ca! > ribbean thatwere pronounced > in favor of Alan did después of the > voting schedule. > Greetings > Sylvia > > _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein > Leite > Secretary FLUI - www.fuilatin.org > LACRALO-ALAC Member > Latin > America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > -----Mensagem original > Of: mailto > lac-discuss-is -bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [: > lac-discuss-is - > bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > > jam@jacquelinemorris.com > Shipment command post: sixth-feira, 26 of > novembro of 2010 12:02 > For: lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Assunto: Re: card of votación > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: card of votación > Of: > jam@jacquelinemorris.com > > of my spera account Ã, habÃÂa on equal > levels of the aid stops > > both > Sebastien and Alan - conté 6 > for Alan and 7 for Sebastien. Puedotener faltó > some, so! > that porqué I am suitable with the order of Alex a civ! > il emplo > yee > counts, so that we know the vote true of the ALSes, and notas soon as > one > conjectures. > > Jacqueline To Morris > tecnologÃÂa must be like the > oxÃÂgeno: Ubicuo, necessary, invisible and > frees. > (después of > Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) > > > > fri, of nov the > 26 of 2010 in 9:52, <joseluis@barzallo.com> escribió: > > > [ [ - > - translated text (is - >)--]] of in > > > subject: Re: > > > > card of votación > of: joseluis@barzallo.com > > > compañeros > > > wanted > >  > like one està leaving to > vote, exists a certain mechanism to do it > directly? > since then > > después of which a reacondicionamiento of > the received insumos we > has to me decides to the aid to > Sebastien > Bachollet. > > Hot > Greetings > > Jose Luis Barzallo > > AEDIT > > > > www.aedit.org.ec > > Columbus 535 and 6 of December > > Edif.Cristóbal > Columbus Of. 602 > T! > elf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 > fax: 593 2 2564530 > > email: > joseluis@barzallo.com > Exempt Ecuador > CONFIDENTIAL > > INFORMACIÃ"n: > PROHIBE the DIFUSIÃ"n, COMMUNICATIONOr > PUBLICACIÃ"n > > OF THIS INFORMACIÃ"n to > THIRD WITHOUT the EXPRESS AUTORIZACIÃ"n > ÉL INSIDE > WRITING and OF > BARZALLO and > BARZALLO LAWYERS. THIS > INFORMACIÓN IS DUE TO KEEP WITH > SECURITIES > WHEN THE EAST > THAT IS NOT USED. IF YOU ARE NOT THE ADRESSEE> OF THIS > email, YOU > DEBERA TO ERASE IT and TO GIVE IT to DETRà S tothe TRANSMITTER > and > > PODRA NOT TO READ, > To The Copy Or TO DISTRIBUTE ITS ANNEXED And > CONTAINED SALARY. > CUALQUIEROPINIONEXPRESSED INSIDE >! > THIS MESSAGE, > NOT NOT NECESSARILY CORRESPONDS to ITS AUTHOR and ToBARZALLO and > > > BARZALLO. LAWYERS > > > original -----Mensaje > of: lacquer-to > discuss is - > bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto: > lac-discuss-is - > bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] in n! > ame of > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > sent: Friday, 2! > 6 of Nov > ember of 2010 > 7:51 > stops: ' Alexander Pisanty ' > CENTà METER > CÃÅ BICO: > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > subject: [ > lacquer-discuss-is ] TRACK > OF CATTLES: QUARTER FOR LOSDOCE: cómo à > '  > is going to vote? > > > Compañeros > wanted: > > Segun all the post office sent to the list of LACRALO by you > COM > the > commentaries in the candidates, and by my personal convictions, > I have > > voted to Sebastien. immediately >, > Syliva > > > _________________________________________________________ >Sylvia Herlein > > Leite > secretary FLUI - www.fuilatin.org > Member of LACRALO-ALAC > > > Latin©rich Amàand Organización En-Grande Of the > Regional Caribbean > > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > > > > > > original of -----Mensagem > of: > lacquer-to discuss is - > bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto: > lac-discuss-is - > bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] commando post ! > > nome > of Alexander > post of commando sent of Pisanty: > fifth-feira, 25 of > novembro of 201021:08 > stops: > sylvia@internautabrasil.org > centÃÂÂmetro > cúbico: > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: [ > > lacquer-discuss-is ] QUARTER FOR the TWELVE: to cómo goes à '  > > vote? > > hello > colleagues, and in the individual that is going > to exert inthe of the vote > selección > > IN Great: > à ' >  > we are not on the last hours to vote? >à '  > > > qué conclusions has reached that they are going to vote? > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av University. > 3000, 04510 xico©MàDF xico©Mà> > Tels. > > +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * my blog of blog/My: > > http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * you promarry of LinkedIn towards > outside: > http:! > //www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitte > ! > r.com/ap > isanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/ÃÃ<http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/%C3%83%C6%92%C3%82%C6%92%C3%83>† > '<http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/%C3%83%C6%92> > < > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/%C3%83> > ' 106C0C8614 > > * > sees ISOC > xico©MÃÂ, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC > http://www.isoc.org > * participates in > ICANN, http://www.icann.org... > . . . . . . . . . >. . . . .. . . . . . . >. . > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >[ [ > - > - original text (it is) > > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/7Ã<http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/7%C3%83>£bed77dd.html > > --]]> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > list thatenvÃÂÂa > > lacquer-to discuss-the! > c-discuss-in > > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original > text (in) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_arc! > hive/27df97be42.html > --]] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing > list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > -- > * Andrés Piazza * > www.andrespiazza.com > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [[--Original text (es) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6711311f62.html > --]] > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > >
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