[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Los números son simplemente erróneo. De: carlton.samuels@gmail.com Gracias Jacqueline, pero no sirve de nada. He explicado pacientemente demasiadas veces. Todavía estoy atónita que la gente realmente serios NUNCA se preguntan por qué el nombre y la dirección del representante de cada ALS se verifica y eso que cada ALS se SIEMPRE enviar un boleta de votación! Ahora reconozco públicamente que tenías razón al insistir en que democrática principios y reglas de orden que regula las instituciones democráticas no era tan ampliamente entendido y respetado como me imaginaba en esta América Latina y el Región geográfica Caribe. Yo llevaba el día en que el argumento, pero en gran medida de la esperanza y la confianza. Es uno de mis pesares duraderos. Ritz-Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton Un Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega * ============================= El Lun, 14 de septiembre 2015 a las 6:31 de la tarde, Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com

wrote: Hi Alberto I would like to insert some factual historical information into this discussion.

The concern when developing the RoP was to ensure that a minority of the organisation could not agree to motions without a majority present and voting. Hence, the rule for a virtual assembly is that every ALS is considered to be present as each is issued voting credentials. And so a motion cannot be carried on a minority voting on a motion if the majority abstains or don't vote.

I don't know when the change was made, but it is counter to the established and documented process. I believe if such a fundamental change were to be made to the established voting process, it should have been discussed and voted upon by the membership. It may be that the Big Pulse system was wrongly programmed to calculate, but it certainly should have been double checked!

Sincerely

Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:21 PM, <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:

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Subject: The Numbers are Plain Wrong. From: asoto@ibero-americano.org

Lord Samuels, a continuation transcribe Rule 12.2 of the Common Rules LACRALO Procedure: In accordance with the provisions of the Rules 6.2 and 16, decisions shall be by a majority of decidirn Large Structures present and voting; for the purposes of these Rules, the expression Large Structures present vote will refer the Large Structures casting an affirmative or negative vote. At Large Structures refrain from voting if they considerarcomo they would not have voted.

In English: 12.2 Subject to the Provisions of Rules 6.2 and 16, decisions Shall be taken by a majority of the At Large Structures present and voting; for the purpose of the present Rules, the expression "At Large Structures present and voting "shall mean At Large Structures casting an affirmative or negative vote.At Large Structures abstaining from voting Shall Be Regarded Having Voted as not.

As see, you have to count the number of ALS present, it is, they have cast their vote, whatever its option. We understand that Large structures who voted for the abstention option, have issued one vote, which even can be considered negative. Positive votes are those who go sb candidate.

The rule saying abstaining, we understand that concern Scope those structures that have not No single act. In simple terms did not vote for any option.

The Big Push system is automatic, no intervention of any person. The percentage taken are correct.

Years ago that the system works the same way, and has never been observed or rejected.

Made the clarification, I ask again please not to issue grievances and insults on the list.

If you observe or perform a critical, please, just doing hgalo s reference to the fact in citing the article and reference standard.

Cheers

Alberto Soto

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