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ORGANIZER;CN=Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:MAILTO:pitinan.koo@icann.org
ATTENDEE;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE;CN=Latin GP:M
 AILTO:latingp@icann.org
ATTENDEE;ROLE=OPT-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE;CN=Sarmad Hus
 sain:MAILTO:sarmad.hussain@icann.org
ATTENDEE;ROLE=OPT-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE;CN=Mirjana Ta
 sić:MAILTO:Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs
ATTENDEE;ROLE=OPT-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE;CN=Tran Canh 
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ATTENDEE;ROLE=OPT-PARTICIPANT;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;RSVP=TRUE;CN=Fahd Batay
 neh:MAILTO:fahd.batayneh@icann.org
DESCRIPTION;LANGUAGE=en-US:Dear Latin GP members\,\n\n\nThis is a gentle re
 minder for the Latin GP meeting on 7 May 2020\,  16.00UTC.\nPlease join th
 e meeting at the updated link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/95395839226?pwd=ZGx
 pYmRqV2E2NjloWTFHZWNGbkJWZz09\nPassword: 096517\n\n\n--------------\nTo jo
 in via phone\, please find your local number at https://icann.zoom.us/u/aw
 6COk4xD\nMeeting ID: 953 9583 9226\nPassword: 096517\n\n\nPlease find the 
 Agenda and the note from the chair below.\n\n\nRegards\,\nPitinan\n\n\nDea
 r GP members\,\n\n\n\nPlease find enclosed the proposal of Agenda for our 
 call. Any comments\, corrections and suggestions are welcome.\n\n\n\n\n\nR
 egards Mirjana\n\n\n\n____________________________________________________
 ___________________________________________\n\nAGENDA for the GP call on M
 ay the 7th      2020\, 16:00UTC\n\n\n\n  1.  Latin Small Letter I () and L
 atin Small Letter Dotless I () the analysis is already documented\, it onl
 y requires the final conclusion. Please find the relevant section in the p
 roposal below.\n\n  2.  Next tasks- discuss the priorities:\n\n        *  
  Thorough reading and finalization of In-Script variant analysis\n\n      
   *   Review proposed confusables for Similarity review\n\n        *   Rep
 ort finalization\n\n        *   XML production and correction of possible 
 errors\n\n        *   Test data production\n\n  3.  Next meeting  May  the
  14th  2020\, 16:00 UTC\n\n  4.  AOB\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nD.5.2 Latin Small Lett
 er Dotless I (Äą) 0131\n\n\n\nThere are four Latin code points that have
  a special case (upper case/lower case) relationship:\n\n   Âˇ         U
 +0069 Latin Small Letter I ("i")\n\n   Âˇ         U+0049 Latin Capital L
 etter I ("I")\n\n   Âˇ         U+0131 Latin Small Letter Dotless I ("Ä
 ą")\n\n   Âˇ         U+0130 Latin Capital Letter I with Dot Above ("Ä
 °")\n\n\n\nIn most locales Latin Small Letter I is lower case of Latin Ca
 pital Letter I\, and reverse Latin Capital Letter I (U+0069) is upper case
  of Latin Small Letter I (U+0069). In those locales\, Latin Capital Letter
  I (U+0049) is also upper case of Latin Small Letter Dotless I. It could b
 e described as in the following chart:\n\n\n\nTable D.8. Case Relationship
 s for 0069\, 0049\, 0130\, and 0131\n\nCharacter\n        Process\n       
  Resulting Character\n        Process\n        Resulting Character\n\nLati
 n Small Letter I\n\nU+0069\n        up case â†’\n        Latin Capita
 l Letter I\n\nU+0049\n        down case â†’\n        Latin Small Lett
 er I\n\nU+0069\n\nLatin Small Letter Dotless I\n\nU+0131\n        up case 
 â†’\n        Latin Capital Letter I\n\nU+0049\n        down case â
 †’\n        Latin Small Letter I\n\nU+0069\n\nLatin Capital Letter I w
 ith Dot Above\n\nU+0130\n        down case â†’\n        Latin Small L
 etter I\n\nU+0069\n        up case â†’\n        Latin Capital Letter 
 I\n\nU+0049\n\n\n\nIn two locales\, Turkish and Azeri\, respectively\, the
  case relationship is different. In those two\, Latin Small Letter I and L
 atin Capital Letter I with Dot Above are in mutual upcase/downcase relatio
 nship to each other\, as well as Latin Small Letter Dotless I and Latin Ca
 pital Letter I\, which could be described as in the following chart:\n\n\n
 \nTable D.9. Case Relationships in Turkish and Azeri Locales\n\nCharacter\
 n        Process\n        Resulting Character\n        Process\n        Re
 sulting Character\n\nLatin Small Letter I\n        up case â†’\n     
    Latin Capital Letter I with Dot Above\n        down case â†’\n    
     Latin Small Letter I\n\nLatin Small Letter Dotless I\n        up case 
 â†’\n        Latin Capital Letter I\n        down case â†’\n    
     Latin Small Letter Dotless I\n\n\n\nIf we look at the repertoire of La
 tin code points for the root zone\, as proposed by the Latin Generation Pa
 nel\, Latin Small Letter I and Latin Small Letter Dotless I are included\,
  whereas the capital letters are excluded. Capital letters are not even va
 lid in IDNA2008\, so the question is\, is the case relationship described 
 here a problem or even relevant?\n\n\n\nBefore IDNA2008\, there was IDNA20
 03. Even though IDNA2003 has been replaced by IDNA2008 it is still impleme
 nted. For example\, the web browser Google Chrome to date remains IDNA2003
  compliant but not fully IDNA 2008 compliant. In IDNA2003 there is a pre-p
 rocess\, normalization\, of domain names before conversion to Punycode. Th
 at normalization includes down casing of Latin characters. For ASCII label
 s there is already an equivalence between upper case and lower case letter
 s. And this is what users\, based on decades of experience\, expect to hap
 pen.\n\n\n\nIn an IDNA2003-compliant web browser it is expected that "EXĂ
 „MPEL" and "EXAMPLE" are equivalent to "exĂ¤mpel" and "example"\, resp
 ectively. In an IDNA2008 browser "EXAMPLE" must be accepted\, but "EXĂ„
 MPLE" could be rejected since "Ă„" is not valid\, but that is not how e
 .g. Mozilla Firefox and Apple Safari have been designed to handle the prob
 lem. They also do down case before the formal IDNA2008 process.\n\n\n\nEve
 n though down casing is not part of the formal IDNA2008 process\, one of t
 he IDNA2008 documents\, RFC 5894\, states that the user interface of an ap
 plication\, before IDNA2008 processing\, can do normalization. The down ca
 sing in IDNA2008 browsers should probably be seen in that light.\n\n\n\nWh
 ile "TĂ„T" will probably be down cased to "tĂ¤t" in the browser\, wha
 t should the browser do with "TIT"? Depending on the locale that the brows
 er is running in\, it may be down cased to either "tit" or "tÄąt" (with 
 or without the dot).\n\n\n\nThe casing\, in an application\, is expected t
 o go in one direction\, from upper case to lower case. When domain names a
 re presented in text\, however\, it is common that domain names are presen
 ted in upper or mixed case. So "ice" might become "Ice" or "Ä°ce".\n\n\n
 \nIt is quite obvious from the text above that case shift of dotted or dot
 less I could create erroneous lookup\, but the question is how large threa
 t it would be to the users. Since the applications are expected to go from
  upper case to lower case\, when they handle domain names\, we should cons
 ider a situation where down casing could result in different lower case le
 tters\, i.e. when CAPITAL LETTER I is down cased.\n\n\n\nWith a non-Turkis
 h and non-Azeri locale\, a Latin CAPITAL LETTER I in a domain name is eith
 er down cased to Latin Small Letter I (IDN label) or equivalent to Latin S
 mall Letter I (ASCII label).\n\n\n\nWith a Turkish or Azeri locale\, a Lat
 in Capital Letter I is expected to be down cased to Latin Small Letter Dot
 less I\, but in an ASCII label in a domain name\, it is still expected to 
 be equivalent with Latin Small Letter I\, because that is what the DNS sta
 ndards says.\n\n\n\nThere is an obvious risk that\, in a Turkish or Azeri 
 locale that the two letters are confused or mistreated due to the case fol
 ding\, and this confusion could be misused. To be on the safe side Latin S
 mall Letter I and Latin Small Letter Dotless I should be variants. Accordi
 ngly\, the following variant set could be the optimal solution:\n\n\n\nTab
 le D.10. Possible Variant Relationships for 0069 and 0131\n\n\n\nGroup\n  
       Dotless i vs. i\n\nTarget\n        Source\n        Variant Candidate
  [Yes/No]\n        Disposition [Allocatable/\n\nBlocked]\n        Rational
 e\n\nCode Point\n        Glyph\n        Name\n        Code Point\n        
 Glyph\n        Name\n\n0069\n        i\n        Latin Small Letter I\n    
     0131\n        Äą\n        Latin Small Letter Dotless I\n        YES\
 n        Blocked\n        Risk of confusion due to inconsistent case foldi
 ng\n\n0131\n        Äą\n        Latin Small Letter Dotless I\n        00
 69\n        i\n        Latin Small Letter I\n        YES\n        Blocked\
 n        Risk of confusion due to inconsistent case folding\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\
 n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
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