Mats, 

I think it depends on the language and it's use.  If we find another language which meets the criteria we set out (for example, 1 million native speakers), but which we do not already include, then I think we should include it.  

The alternative is that we say (implicitly, if not explicitly): "We think nobody else will notice that we made a mistake.  We think we can get away with it.  So we won't bother."  I don't think we want to do that. 

Note that I'm not advocating relaxing the criteria we set.  Just that we correct oversights.  And I do not agree with Mirjana that this leave us with something that will never be finished.  Yes, there are languages which are on the margin which might grow to be "big enough".  But really, there just aren't that many.  Not enough to pose a significant threat.  

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On Thursday, October 8, 2020, 09:01:21 AM PDT, Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg@internetstiftelsen.se> wrote:


That is a new language, isn't it? I think we should be hesitant on including new languages now.

 

Mats

 

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From: Meikal Mumin <meikal@mumin.de>
Date: Thursday, 8 October 2020 at 17:44
To: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo@icann.org>, ICANN Latin GP <latingp@icann.org>, Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg@internetstiftelsen.se>
Subject: Re: [Latingp] Use of diacritic code points in Kirundi.

 

All except for 01D4 and 00EC seem to occur in Lingala, a major language of Congo. All the other languages listed are less known and would need research regarding their status which is not possible because of the paywall introduced by ethnologue.com
https://scriptsource.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=character_detail_use&key=U0001CE
https://scriptsource.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=character_detail_use&key=U0001D2
https://scriptsource.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=character_detail_use&key=U0001D0
https://scriptsource.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=character_detail_use&key=U0001D4


Best,

Meikal

Am 8. Okt. 2020, 17:14 +0200 schrieb Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg@internetstiftelsen.se>:

My proposal is that we remove them from the repertoire (except for U+00EC).

 

 

Mats

 

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From: Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo@icann.org>
Date: Thursday, 8 October 2020 at 12:57
To: ICANN Latin GP <latingp@icann.org>
Subject: [Latingp] Use of diacritic code points in Kirundi.

 

Dear Latin GP members,

 

We have got some response from our colleagues in Africa on the usage of Kirundi. It seems like the characters with diacritics are not generally used, please see the Kirundi news website, http://ubumwe.ppbdi.com [ubumwe.ppbdi.com].

 

They might be used in poems or other special purposes. However, based on the LGR procedure, it is clear to follow the conservatism and these could be exclude from the repertoire. If in the future there are evidence of usage, these can be added back then.

 

This is for your consideration and decision.

 

Code Point

Glyph

Name

Language using the code point (in the current proposal)

00EC 

ì 

LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH GRAVE 

Italian, Kirundi

01CE 

ǎ 

LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CARON 

Kirundi

01D0 

ǐ 

LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH CARON 

Kirundi

01D2 

ǒ 

LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH CARON 

Kirundi

01D4 

ǔ 

LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH CARON 

Kirundi

 

 

Regards,

Pitinan

 

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