Hi Michael, 

Well technically we were in favor of them.  That is, a majority of us thought they should be variants; just not the super-majority we usually use.  If there were only a couple of us who thought they were variants, it would be another story.  But as it is...? 

As you say, we can discuss it tomorrow. 

Bill 


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On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 11:00 PM, Michael Bauland via Latingp
<latingp@icann.org> wrote:
Hello Bill,

thank you very much for summarising the facts.


On 29.06.2021 21:10, Bill Jouris via Latingp wrote:
>
> Transitivity means that all of the following pairs are Latin in-script
> variants:
> ć / ċ     i / í     ń / ṅ     ó / ȯ     ẃ / ẇ     ź / ż 
>
> But not: 
> é / ė
>
> Does anyone really and truly want to get up in public and argue that
> having this /single/ omission is intellectually defensible?  

Honestly, yes I do, really and truly. ;-)

All of those variants are not ours (well technically we inherit them and
therefore they become ours, but we are not in favour of them) and there
is no need to argue for having any of those. We do not consider them to
be variants and for that reason I do not think it's a good idea to add
some other relation that we do not consider to be variants.

On the contrary, I would find it difficult to argue in favour of adding
them ourselves: "We added those in-script variants, because in the Greek
Script some other characters are variants."

In my point of view, we should keep the Greek influence on our LGR as
small as possible. If some variants get introduced due to transitivity,
well, then that's unfortunate, but not really avoidable. Adding those
other variants ourselves however, would unnecessarily increase that
influence.

Nevertheless, as stated last week, this is my personal opinion and I'm
more than happy to discuss this in our next call.


Cheers,

Michael

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