AGENDA for the GP call on May the 9nd, 2019, 16:00UTC
Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. I have tried to collect all our findings for In-script Variants. I put all working documents found in two places: some in DROPBOX and some in GOOGLE DOCS. You will find links for every piece of working papers I found in the table with ACTION ITEMS. Please review the list and give me some feedback, have I missed something. Also I ask you to fill template for Appendix D<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fil...> with your findings in order that these findings could be inserted in Final Report. If you forgot what your findings where you can find your documents in REMAINDER at the end of this letter item no 3. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on May the 9nd, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Status of Action items 3. Further steps and priorities 4. Next meeting proposal May the 16th, 2019, 16:00 5. AOB Action items from previous calls ACTION ITEM STATUS 1. Complete URL Underlining Analysis * Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP * Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well * Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case * Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants * Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining) 1.Dennis, started, 2.Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED 3.Meikal prepared table. 4.PROPOSAL: Every GP member should process 28 code points 14 as Reviewer 1 and 14 as Reviewer 2. Meikal should grant access for editing 2. Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal 1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 3. Review “base character” analysis per assignments finish reviewing previous work 1. Finished reports could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAnal...> 2. Cannot find reports from Mats and Denis 4. Further input on German Eszett by German Registries 1. Michael. Text added in Final Report 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 5. Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language -- 1. Michael, results from discussion with IP 2. Resolved 6. Develop test label strategy 1. Mirjana gave Proposal<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LJpUJB2XfBc76O4LuDl9jmPqI7WCai_s-9szi6_k...> 2. ALL – comments expected 7. Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues 1. Mats 8. Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version 1. Dennis, Mats 9. Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review 1. Bill.-Table could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scrip...> 2. What are next steps? 10. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx) 1. Bill- Text could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningDi...> 2. Problem should be discussed by Panel 11. In script analysis on visual ground NOT STARTED YET 12. Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Meikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results. 1. Meikal’s template for Appendix D<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fil...> accepted 13. Filling Appendix D template<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fil...> with findings from non-visual analysis 1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael 2. Expecting (Mats, Bill, Denis, Hazzem) 14. Wordmark.it users, who needs them REMINDER 1. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningDi... 1. Following In script Non visual base character analysis sent as .pdf. or word document could be found in Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAnal... · Hazem · Mirjana · Bill · Meikal · Michael · Missing reports from: * Denis * Mats 1. IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting) · Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20x... · Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1q... · Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1_... · Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRFX... · Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2zv... · Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0c... · Mats, https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAnal... 1. Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fil... 1. Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scrip...
Good morning all! I have created a re-formatted version of the Underlining spreadsheet, using the same template that we used in the past for cross script variant analysis. I've tentatively assigned first and second inspectors for each -- if the thing looks OK overall, we can start doing the analysis. I have kept the lines for Dot Below and Macron Below, in the interests of having everything in one place. But nobody is assigned to those, of course, since we already know what our decision is. Talk to you tomorrow (or later today for most of you). Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris@insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct) On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 10:47:07 AM EDT, Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs> wrote: <!--#yiv1840644883 _filtered #yiv1840644883 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1840644883 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1840644883 {font-family:-webkit-standard;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}#yiv1840644883 #yiv1840644883 p.yiv1840644883MsoNormal, #yiv1840644883 li.yiv1840644883MsoNormal, #yiv1840644883 div.yiv1840644883MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv1840644883 a:link, #yiv1840644883 span.yiv1840644883MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1840644883 a:visited, #yiv1840644883 span.yiv1840644883MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1840644883 p.yiv1840644883MsoListParagraph, #yiv1840644883 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Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. I have tried to collect all our findings for In-script Variants. I put all working documents found in two places: some in DROPBOX and some in GOOGLE DOCS. You will find links for every piece of working papers I found in the table with ACTION ITEMS. Please review the list and give me some feedback, have I missed something. Also I ask you to filltemplate for Appendix D with your findings in order that these findings could be inserted in Final Report. If you forgot what your findings where you can find your documents in REMAINDER at the end of this letter item no 3. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on May the 9nd, 2019, 16:00UTC - Roll call - Status of Action items - Further steps and priorities - Next meeting proposal May the 16 th, 2019, 16:00 - AOB Action items from previous calls | | ACTION ITEM | STATUS | | 1. | Complete URL Underlining Analysis - Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP - Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well - Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case - Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants - Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining) | 1.Dennis, started, 2.Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED 3.Meikal prepared table. 4.PROPOSAL: Every GP member should process 28 code points 14 as Reviewer 1 and 14 as Reviewer 2. Meikal should grant access for editing | | 2. | Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal | 1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report | | 3. | Review “base character” analysis per assignments finish reviewing previous work | - Finished reports could be found HERE - Cannot find reports from Mats and Denis | | 4. | Further input on German Eszett by German Registries | - Michael. Text added in FinalReport - ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report | | 5. | Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language -- | - Michael, results from discussion with IP - Resolved | | 6. | Develop test label strategy | - Mirjana gave Proposal - ALL – commentsexpected | | 7. | Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues | - Mats | | 8. | Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version | - Dennis, Mats | | 9. | Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review | 1. Bill.-Table could be foundHERE 2. What are next steps? | | 10. | Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment:Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx) | 1. Bill- Text could be foundHERE 2. Problem should be discussed by Panel | | 11. | In script analysis on visual ground | NOT STARTED YET | | 12. | Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Meikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results. | - Meikal’s template for Appendix D accepted | | 13. | Filling Appendix D template with findings from non-visual analysis | 1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael 2. Expecting (Mats, Bill, Denis, Hazzem) | | 14. | Wordmark.it users, who needs them | | REMINDER - Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningDi... - Following In script Non visual base character analysis sent as .pdf. or word document could be found in Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAnal... · Hazem · Mirjana · Bill · Meikal · Michael · Missing reports from: - Denis - Mats - IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting) · Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20x... · Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1q... · Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1_... · Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRFX... · Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2zv... · Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0c... · Mats, https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAnal... - Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fil... - Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scrip... _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp
Ack! All that, and then I failed to include the link. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWEf... Sorry! Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris@insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct) On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 9:32:57 PM EDT, Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com> wrote: Good morning all! I have created a re-formatted version of the Underlining spreadsheet, using the same template that we used in the past for cross script variant analysis. I've tentatively assigned first and second inspectors for each -- if the thing looks OK overall, we can start doing the analysis. I have kept the lines for Dot Below and Macron Below, in the interests of having everything in one place. But nobody is assigned to those, of course, since we already know what our decision is. Talk to you tomorrow (or later today for most of you). Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris@insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct) On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 10:47:07 AM EDT, Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs> wrote: <!--#yiv2460948458 filtered {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}#yiv2460948458 filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv2460948458 filtered {font-family:-webkit-standard;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}#yiv2460948458 p.yiv2460948458MsoNormal, #yiv2460948458 li.yiv2460948458MsoNormal, #yiv2460948458 div.yiv2460948458MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv2460948458 a:link, #yiv2460948458 span.yiv2460948458MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2460948458 a:visited, #yiv2460948458 span.yiv2460948458MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2460948458 p.yiv2460948458MsoListParagraph, #yiv2460948458 li.yiv2460948458MsoListParagraph, #yiv2460948458 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Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. I have tried to collect all our findings for In-script Variants. I put all working documents found in two places: some in DROPBOX and some in GOOGLE DOCS. You will find links for every piece of working papers I found in the table with ACTION ITEMS. Please review the list and give me some feedback, have I missed something. Also I ask you to filltemplate for Appendix D with your findings in order that these findings could be inserted in Final Report. If you forgot what your findings where you can find your documents in REMAINDER at the end of this letter item no 3. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on May the 9nd, 2019, 16:00UTC - Roll call - Status of Action items - Further steps and priorities - Next meeting proposal May the 16 th, 2019, 16:00 - AOB Action items from previous calls | | ACTION ITEM | STATUS | | 1. | Complete URL Underlining Analysis - Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP - Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well - Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case - Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants - Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining) | 1.Dennis, started, 2.Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED 3.Meikal prepared table. 4.PROPOSAL: Every GP member should process 28 code points 14 as Reviewer 1 and 14 as Reviewer 2. Meikal should grant access for editing | | 2. | Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal | 1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report | | 3. | Review “base character” analysis per assignments finish reviewing previous work | - Finished reports could be found HERE - Cannot find reports from Mats and Denis | | 4. | Further input on German Eszett by German Registries | - Michael. Text added in FinalReport - ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report | | 5. | Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language -- | - Michael, results from discussion with IP - Resolved | | 6. | Develop test label strategy | - Mirjana gave Proposal - ALL – commentsexpected | | 7. | Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues | - Mats | | 8. | Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version | - Dennis, Mats | | 9. | Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review | 1. Bill.-Table could be foundHERE 2. What are next steps? | | 10. | Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment:Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx) | 1. Bill- Text could be foundHERE 2. Problem should be discussed by Panel | | 11. | In script analysis on visual ground | NOT STARTED YET | | 12. | Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Meikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results. | - Meikal’s template for Appendix D accepted | | 13. | Filling Appendix D template with findings from non-visual analysis | 1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael 2. Expecting (Mats, Bill, Denis, Hazzem) | | 14. | Wordmark.it users, who needs them | | REMINDER - Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningDi... - Following In script Non visual base character analysis sent as .pdf. or word document could be found in Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAnal... · Hazem · Mirjana · Bill · Meikal · Michael · Missing reports from: - Denis - Mats - IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting) · Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20x... · Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1q... · Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1_... · Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRFX... · Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2zv... · Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0c... · Mats, https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAnal... - Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fil... - Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scrip... _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp
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