Dear Tijani Thank you for your initiative I vote for "new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP" Best regards Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 12:59, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit :

Dear all,

I’m so surprised to see no reaction to my call for topics for the ME Space at ICANN 63. Please respond and give your opinion even if it is « we should get ride of the ME Space ».

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Le 4 sept. 2018 à 19:54, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit :

Dear all,

As we did for ICANN 60 and ICANN 61, we are planning to organize a ME Space at ICANN 63. Can you please provide your preferred topic to be addressed by the ME Space in Barcelona? I think we have several choices since we are now commenting on the preliminary report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP working group (open round or consecutive rounds, Universal acceptance, Application fees, Applicant support, Community applications, etc…). We have also the Geographic names. Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address.

Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.

This the timeline:

04 - 10 September: Call for topics 11 September: Announcement of the selected Topic 11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members 16 September: Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement 26 September 1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period 03 October: Closing of the comment period 04 - 08 October: Drafting of the final version 09 October: Final draft published

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Dear Tijani and all, I think that application support could indeed a relevant topic for the ME Space especially as it arises from an obvious need in the region. Walid On Sun, 9 Sep 2018, 10:05 Tijani BEN JEMAA, <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:

Thank you Zied for your proposal.

The aim of the ME Space is to address topics under discussion at ICANN and provide the opinion of the region thereupon to the ICANN Board and the other concerned parties to make the voice of our region heard by the decision makers.

The initial report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP WG WT 1 to 4 is now under public comment. So, it’s a perfect choice for us to address it. But this report include several very important topics such as Application fees, Community application, Applicant support, consecutive rounds vs open round, etc. If we address them all, we will not be able to go deeply in each of them and our statement will be superficial. I propose to choose only one topic that is the most important for our region. I propose the Applicant support since for the 2012 round very few applications from our region were submitted, and the applicant support program had very tough eligibility criteria that led to zero applicant supported while we had money to support up to 14 applicants. So, I think we can have the applicant support as the topic for ICANN 63 ME Space. What do you think?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Tijani BEN JEMAA* Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114

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Le 7 sept. 2018 à 19:00, Zied BOUZIRI <zied.bouziri@gmail.com> a écrit :

Dear Tijani Thank you for your initiative I vote for "new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP" Best regards

Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 12:59, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit :

...

Dear all,

I’m so surprised to see no reaction to my call for topics for the ME Space at ICANN 63. Please respond and give your opinion even if it is « we should get ride of the ME Space ».

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Tijani BEN JEMAA* Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114

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Le 4 sept. 2018 à 19:54, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit :

Dear all,

As we did for ICANN 60 and ICANN 61, we are planning to organize a ME Space at ICANN 63. Can you please provide your preferred topic to be addressed by the ME Space in Barcelona? I think we have several choices since we are now commenting on the preliminary report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP working group (open round or consecutive rounds, Universal acceptance, Application fees, Applicant support, Community applications, etc…). We have also the Geographic names. Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address.

Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.

This the timeline:

04 - 10 September: Call for topics 11 September: Announcement of the selected Topic 11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members 16 September: Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement 26 September 1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period 03 October: Closing of the comment period 04 - 08 October: Drafting of the final version 09 October: Final draft published

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Good choice Walid, I support handling it for the ME Space. Nadira On Sun, Sep 9, 2018, 12:14 Walid AL-SAQAF <walid@al-saqaf.se> wrote:

Dear Tijani and all,

I think that application support could indeed a relevant topic for the ME Space especially as it arises from an obvious need in the region.

Walid

On Sun, 9 Sep 2018, 10:05 Tijani BEN JEMAA, <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:

...

Thank you Zied for your proposal.

The aim of the ME Space is to address topics under discussion at ICANN and provide the opinion of the region thereupon to the ICANN Board and the other concerned parties to make the voice of our region heard by the decision makers.

The initial report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP WG WT 1 to 4 is now under public comment. So, it’s a perfect choice for us to address it. But this report include several very important topics such as Application fees, Community application, Applicant support, consecutive rounds vs open round, etc. If we address them all, we will not be able to go deeply in each of them and our statement will be superficial. I propose to choose only one topic that is the most important for our region. I propose the Applicant support since for the 2012 round very few applications from our region were submitted, and the applicant support program had very tough eligibility criteria that led to zero applicant supported while we had money to support up to 14 applicants. So, I think we can have the applicant support as the topic for ICANN 63 ME Space. What do you think?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Tijani BEN JEMAA* Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114

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Le 7 sept. 2018 à 19:00, Zied BOUZIRI <zied.bouziri@gmail.com> a écrit :

Dear Tijani Thank you for your initiative I vote for "new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP" Best regards

Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 12:59, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit :

...

Dear all,

I’m so surprised to see no reaction to my call for topics for the ME Space at ICANN 63. Please respond and give your opinion even if it is « we should get ride of the ME Space ».

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Tijani BEN JEMAA* Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114

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Le 4 sept. 2018 à 19:54, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit :

Dear all,

As we did for ICANN 60 and ICANN 61, we are planning to organize a ME Space at ICANN 63. Can you please provide your preferred topic to be addressed by the ME Space in Barcelona? I think we have several choices since we are now commenting on the preliminary report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP working group (open round or consecutive rounds, Universal acceptance, Application fees, Applicant support, Community applications, etc…). We have also the Geographic names. Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address.

Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.

This the timeline:

04 - 10 September: Call for topics 11 September: Announcement of the selected Topic 11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members 16 September: Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement 26 September 1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period 03 October: Closing of the comment period 04 - 08 October: Drafting of the final version 09 October: Final draft published

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Yes, I agree. +1 Le dim. 9 sept. 2018 à 18:30, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> a écrit :

I agree with Tijani. Application criteria can be directly related to the region.

Farzaneh

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 4:06 AM Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:

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Thank you Zied for your proposal.

The aim of the ME Space is to address topics under discussion at ICANN and provide the opinion of the region thereupon to the ICANN Board and the other concerned parties to make the voice of our region heard by the decision makers.

The initial report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP WG WT 1 to 4 is now under public comment. So, it’s a perfect choice for us to address it. But this report include several very important topics such as Application fees, Community application, Applicant support, consecutive rounds vs open round, etc. If we address them all, we will not be able to go deeply in each of them and our statement will be superficial. I propose to choose only one topic that is the most important for our region. I propose the Applicant support since for the 2012 round very few applications from our region were submitted, and the applicant support program had very tough eligibility criteria that led to zero applicant supported while we had money to support up to 14 applicants. So, I think we can have the applicant support as the topic for ICANN 63 ME Space. What do you think?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Tijani BEN JEMAA* Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114

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Le 7 sept. 2018 à 19:00, Zied BOUZIRI <zied.bouziri@gmail.com> a écrit :

Dear Tijani Thank you for your initiative I vote for "new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP" Best regards

Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 12:59, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit :

...

Dear all,

I’m so surprised to see no reaction to my call for topics for the ME Space at ICANN 63. Please respond and give your opinion even if it is « we should get ride of the ME Space ».

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *Tijani BEN JEMAA* Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114

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Le 4 sept. 2018 à 19:54, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit :

Dear all,

As we did for ICANN 60 and ICANN 61, we are planning to organize a ME Space at ICANN 63. Can you please provide your preferred topic to be addressed by the ME Space in Barcelona? I think we have several choices since we are now commenting on the preliminary report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP working group (open round or consecutive rounds, Universal acceptance, Application fees, Applicant support, Community applications, etc…). We have also the Geographic names. Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address.

Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.

This the timeline:

04 - 10 September: Call for topics 11 September: Announcement of the selected Topic 11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members 16 September: Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement 26 September 1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period 03 October: Closing of the comment period 04 - 08 October: Drafting of the final version 09 October: Final draft published

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Dear all, Nadira Al Araj and myself, we tried to accommodate all the comments received and came up with the attached draft statement that will be discussed, modified if necessary and adopted in the ME Space session in Barcelona. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear Nadira & Tijani, Thank you for the proposed statement. Kindest RegardsHadia   On Tuesday, October 9, 2018, 7:53:01 AM GMT+2, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Dear all, Nadira Al Araj and myself, we tried to accommodate all the comments received and came up with the attached draft statement that will be discussed, modified if necessary and adopted in the ME Space session in Barcelona. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to icann-meac-swg+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/icann-meac-swg/4342AE6C-9AFE-430D-8663-F33.... For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to icann-meac-swg+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/icann-meac-swg/4342AE6C-9AFE-430D-8663-F33.... For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Thank you Zeid and Tijani, Indeed this is a relevant topic and I support it. Universal Acceptance is also a good topic however the applicant support program will have a more tangible outcome at the moment. Kind RegardsHadia   On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 10:06:03 AM GMT+2, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Thank you Zied for your proposal. The aim of the ME Space is to address topics under discussion at ICANN and provide the opinion of the region thereupon to the ICANN Board and the other concerned parties to make the voice of our region heard by the decision makers. The initial report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP WG WT 1 to 4 is now under public comment. So, it’s a perfect choice for us to address it. But this report include several very important topics such as Application fees, Community application, Applicant support, consecutive rounds vs open round, etc. If we address them all, we will not be able to go deeply in each of them and our statement will be superficial. I propose to choose only one topic that is the most important for our region. I propose the Applicant support since for the 2012 round very few applications from our region were submitted, and the applicant support program had very tough eligibility criteria that led to zero applicant supported while we had money to support up to 14 applicants.So, I think we can have the applicant support as the topic for ICANN 63 ME Space.What do you think? -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le 7 sept. 2018 à 19:00, Zied BOUZIRI <zied.bouziri@gmail.com> a écrit : Dear TijaniThank you for your initiativeI vote for "new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP" Best regards Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 12:59, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit : Dear all, I’m so surprised to see no reaction to my call for topics for the ME Space at ICANN 63. Please respond and give your opinion even if it is « we should get ride of the ME Space ». -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le 4 sept. 2018 à 19:54, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit : Dear all, As we did for ICANN 60 and ICANN 61, we are planning to organize a ME Space at ICANN 63.Can you please provide your preferred topic to be addressed by the ME Space in Barcelona? I think we have several choices since we are now commenting on the preliminary report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP working group (open round or consecutive rounds, Universal acceptance, Application fees, Applicant support, Community applications, etc…). We have also the Geographic names.Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address. Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC. This the timeline: 04 - 10 September: Call for topics11 September:        Announcement of the selected Topic11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members16 September:        Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement26 September         1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period03 October:             Closing of the comment period04 - 08 October:      Drafting of the final version09 October:             Final draft published      -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. 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Dear all, Since none volunteered for the drafting team, I put my name and hope others will do the same before the deadline (Tomorrow). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Le 11 sept. 2018 à 09:24, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit :

Dear all,

The topic that got almost unanime support id « Applicant Support for the new gTLD subsequent procedure ». Thank you for all who participated in the selection process.

We need now volunteers for a drafting team; please sent your intention to be on this team no later than 15 September.

Have a nice day

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Le 10 sept. 2018 à 12:00, Hadia El Miniawi <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com <mailto:hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com>> a écrit :

Thank you Zeid and Tijani,

Indeed this is a relevant topic and I support it. Universal Acceptance is also a good topic however the applicant support program will have a more tangible outcome at the moment.

Kind Regards Hadia

On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 10:06:03 AM GMT+2, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> wrote:

Thank you Zied for your proposal.

The aim of the ME Space is to address topics under discussion at ICANN and provide the opinion of the region thereupon to the ICANN Board and the other concerned parties to make the voice of our region heard by the decision makers.

The initial report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP WG WT 1 to 4 is now under public comment. So, it’s a perfect choice for us to address it. But this report include several very important topics such as Application fees, Community application, Applicant support, consecutive rounds vs open round, etc. If we address them all, we will not be able to go deeply in each of them and our statement will be superficial. I propose to choose only one topic that is the most important for our region. I propose the Applicant support since for the 2012 round very few applications from our region were submitted, and the applicant support program had very tough eligibility criteria that led to zero applicant supported while we had money to support up to 14 applicants. So, I think we can have the applicant support as the topic for ICANN 63 ME Space. What do you think?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Le 7 sept. 2018 à 19:00, Zied BOUZIRI <zied.bouziri@gmail.com <mailto:zied.bouziri@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Dear Tijani Thank you for your initiative I vote for "new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP" Best regards

Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 12:59, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> a écrit : Dear all,

I’m so surprised to see no reaction to my call for topics for the ME Space at ICANN 63. Please respond and give your opinion even if it is « we should get ride of the ME Space ».

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

...

Le 4 sept. 2018 à 19:54, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> a écrit :

Dear all,

As we did for ICANN 60 and ICANN 61, we are planning to organize a ME Space at ICANN 63. Can you please provide your preferred topic to be addressed by the ME Space in Barcelona? I think we have several choices since we are now commenting on the preliminary report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP working group (open round or consecutive rounds, Universal acceptance, Application fees, Applicant support, Community applications, etc…). We have also the Geographic names. Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address.

Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.

This the timeline:

04 - 10 September: Call for topics 11 September: Announcement of the selected Topic 11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members 16 September: Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement 26 September 1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period 03 October: Closing of the comment period 04 - 08 October: Drafting of the final version 09 October: Final draft published

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Le 15 sept. 2018 à 17:22, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> a écrit :

Hi Tijani, Thank you for offering to be a pen holder as well, I also volunteer even if my schedule at ICANN 63 is not organised yet. Best wishes Nadira

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 10:04 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> wrote: Dear all,

Since none volunteered for the drafting team, I put my name and hope others will do the same before the deadline (Tomorrow).

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Le 11 sept. 2018 à 09:24, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> a écrit :

Dear all,

The topic that got almost unanime support id « Applicant Support for the new gTLD subsequent procedure ». Thank you for all who participated in the selection process.

We need now volunteers for a drafting team; please sent your intention to be on this team no later than 15 September.

Have a nice day

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Le 10 sept. 2018 à 12:00, Hadia El Miniawi <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com <mailto:hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com>> a écrit :

Thank you Zeid and Tijani,

Indeed this is a relevant topic and I support it. Universal Acceptance is also a good topic however the applicant support program will have a more tangible outcome at the moment.

Kind Regards Hadia

On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 10:06:03 AM GMT+2, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> wrote:

Thank you Zied for your proposal.

The aim of the ME Space is to address topics under discussion at ICANN and provide the opinion of the region thereupon to the ICANN Board and the other concerned parties to make the voice of our region heard by the decision makers.

The initial report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP WG WT 1 to 4 is now under public comment. So, it’s a perfect choice for us to address it. But this report include several very important topics such as Application fees, Community application, Applicant support, consecutive rounds vs open round, etc. If we address them all, we will not be able to go deeply in each of them and our statement will be superficial. I propose to choose only one topic that is the most important for our region. I propose the Applicant support since for the 2012 round very few applications from our region were submitted, and the applicant support program had very tough eligibility criteria that led to zero applicant supported while we had money to support up to 14 applicants. So, I think we can have the applicant support as the topic for ICANN 63 ME Space. What do you think?

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Le 7 sept. 2018 à 19:00, Zied BOUZIRI <zied.bouziri@gmail.com <mailto:zied.bouziri@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Dear Tijani Thank you for your initiative I vote for "new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP" Best regards

Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 12:59, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> a écrit : Dear all,

I’m so surprised to see no reaction to my call for topics for the ME Space at ICANN 63. Please respond and give your opinion even if it is « we should get ride of the ME Space ».

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Le 4 sept. 2018 à 19:54, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> a écrit :

Dear all,

As we did for ICANN 60 and ICANN 61, we are planning to organize a ME Space at ICANN 63. Can you please provide your preferred topic to be addressed by the ME Space in Barcelona? I think we have several choices since we are now commenting on the preliminary report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP working group (open round or consecutive rounds, Universal acceptance, Application fees, Applicant support, Community applications, etc…). We have also the Geographic names. Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address.

Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.

This the timeline:

04 - 10 September: Call for topics 11 September: Announcement of the selected Topic 11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members 16 September: Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement 26 September 1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period 03 October: Closing of the comment period 04 - 08 October: Drafting of the final version 09 October: Final draft published

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Dear all, Now, the drafting team is composed of Nadira Alaraj and my self. We will provide you with the statement first draft by 26 September. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Le 15 sept. 2018 à 22:01, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit :

Thank you so much Nadira. We are now 2.

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Le 15 sept. 2018 à 17:22, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com <mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Hi Tijani, Thank you for offering to be a pen holder as well, I also volunteer even if my schedule at ICANN 63 is not organised yet. Best wishes Nadira

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 10:04 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> wrote: Dear all,

Since none volunteered for the drafting team, I put my name and hope others will do the same before the deadline (Tomorrow).

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Le 11 sept. 2018 à 09:24, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> a écrit :

Dear all,

The topic that got almost unanime support id « Applicant Support for the new gTLD subsequent procedure ». Thank you for all who participated in the selection process.

We need now volunteers for a drafting team; please sent your intention to be on this team no later than 15 September.

Have a nice day

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Le 10 sept. 2018 à 12:00, Hadia El Miniawi <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com <mailto:hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com>> a écrit :

Thank you Zeid and Tijani,

Indeed this is a relevant topic and I support it. Universal Acceptance is also a good topic however the applicant support program will have a more tangible outcome at the moment.

Kind Regards Hadia

On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 10:06:03 AM GMT+2, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> wrote:

Thank you Zied for your proposal.

The aim of the ME Space is to address topics under discussion at ICANN and provide the opinion of the region thereupon to the ICANN Board and the other concerned parties to make the voice of our region heard by the decision makers.

The initial report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP WG WT 1 to 4 is now under public comment. So, it’s a perfect choice for us to address it. But this report include several very important topics such as Application fees, Community application, Applicant support, consecutive rounds vs open round, etc. If we address them all, we will not be able to go deeply in each of them and our statement will be superficial. I propose to choose only one topic that is the most important for our region. I propose the Applicant support since for the 2012 round very few applications from our region were submitted, and the applicant support program had very tough eligibility criteria that led to zero applicant supported while we had money to support up to 14 applicants. So, I think we can have the applicant support as the topic for ICANN 63 ME Space. What do you think?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Le 7 sept. 2018 à 19:00, Zied BOUZIRI <zied.bouziri@gmail.com <mailto:zied.bouziri@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Dear Tijani Thank you for your initiative I vote for "new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP" Best regards

Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 12:59, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> a écrit : Dear all,

I’m so surprised to see no reaction to my call for topics for the ME Space at ICANN 63. Please respond and give your opinion even if it is « we should get ride of the ME Space ».

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Le 4 sept. 2018 à 19:54, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> a écrit :

Dear all,

As we did for ICANN 60 and ICANN 61, we are planning to organize a ME Space at ICANN 63. Can you please provide your preferred topic to be addressed by the ME Space in Barcelona? I think we have several choices since we are now commenting on the preliminary report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP working group (open round or consecutive rounds, Universal acceptance, Application fees, Applicant support, Community applications, etc…). We have also the Geographic names. Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address.

Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.

This the timeline:

04 - 10 September: Call for topics 11 September: Announcement of the selected Topic 11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members 16 September: Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement 26 September 1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period 03 October: Closing of the comment period 04 - 08 October: Drafting of the final version 09 October: Final draft published

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Thank you Tijani, Do we have a google doc version? Actually it would be easy to comment and provide feedback there and thn to organize. Best, Zakir On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 3:54:26 PM GMT+5, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Dear all, Please find attached the first draft of the ME Statement for ICANN 63 that was developed by Nadira and myself.Please provide your comments before 3 October 2018 at 23:59 UTC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to icann-meac-swg+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/icann-meac-swg/B3550275-5A24-42E4-8048-CE1.... For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le 4 sept. 2018 à 19:54, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit : Dear all,As we did for ICANN 60 and ICANN 61, we are planning to organize a ME Space at ICANN 63.Can you please provide your preferred topic to be addressed by the ME Space in Barcelona? I think we have several choices since we are now commenting on the preliminary report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP working group (open round or consecutive rounds, Universal acceptance, Application fees, Applicant support, Community applications, etc…). We have also the Geographic names.Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address. Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.This the timeline:04 - 10 September: Call for topics11 September:        Announcement of the selected Topic11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members16 September:        Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement26 September         1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period03 October:             Closing of the comment period04 - 08 October:      Drafting of the final version09 October:             Final draft published    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114-----------------------------------------------------------------------------    -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to icann-meac-swg+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/icann-meac-swg/B3550275-5A24-42E4-8048-CE1.... For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Dear Tijani, Thanks to you and Nadira and to all who contributed  bring this document out.  however I have some questions :  what do you mean by this statement  :  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria." - who is the committee that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who is us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria. - Should it be mention in this document if so, I think we need to clarity it ? I am Confused! I hope you can clarify for me... Thank very much Best Regards Hanan Khatib IT Consultant    On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 11:15:32 AM GMT+3, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you Zakir,In the following link you can find the statement and  all are welcome to comment either on this thread or in the document itself. If you are providing comments in the Google Doc, please start it with your name.  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hz_brkSh8YdQmlXJkFbgtYYxZ4QkjMurwslwyu7h... Best,Nadira On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:59 AM 'Zakir Syed' via MEAC SWG <icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com> wrote: Thank you Tijani, Do we have a google doc version? Actually it would be easy to comment and provide feedback there and thn to organize. Best, Zakir On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 3:54:26 PM GMT+5, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Dear all, Please find attached the first draft of the ME Statement for ICANN 63 that was developed by Nadira and myself.Please provide your comments before 3 October 2018 at 23:59 UTC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to icann-meac-swg+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/icann-meac-swg/B3550275-5A24-42E4-8048-CE1.... For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le 4 sept. 2018 à 19:54, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> a écrit : Dear all,As we did for ICANN 60 and ICANN 61, we are planning to organize a ME Space at ICANN 63.Can you please provide your preferred topic to be addressed by the ME Space in Barcelona? I think we have several choices since we are now commenting on the preliminary report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP working group (open round or consecutive rounds, Universal acceptance, Application fees, Applicant support, Community applications, etc…). We have also the Geographic names.Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address. Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.This the timeline:04 - 10 September: Call for topics11 September:        Announcement of the selected Topic11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members16 September:        Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement26 September         1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period03 October:             Closing of the comment period04 - 08 October:      Drafting of the final version09 October:             Final draft published    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114-----------------------------------------------------------------------------    -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. 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Many thanks Tjani,  then can we change the paragraph to be ?  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community through its working group -the Joint Applicant Support (JAS)- were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten them us that the program will be gamed by applicants who are not in need of assistance if the JAS we put flexible criteria." Hanan Khatib  IT consultant  On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:39 PM khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com> wrote: should be  >?  Dear Tijani, Thanks to you and Nadira and all who worked on this draft,   however I have a questions :  what do you mean by this statement  :  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria." - what community that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria, - should mention it here ? I am Confused! I hope you can clarify for me... Thank very much Hanan Khatib Mob      : + 962 799032012  --    Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 7:39 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Thank you Hanan for your questions. - who is the committee that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who is us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria. - Should it be mention in this document if so, I think we need to clarity it? For the 2012 round, a large part of the community were continuously complaining about the amount of the application fees ($185 000), and argued that the new gTLD program won’t be accessible to underserved regions and disadvantaged communities. After several months of loud complaint, the ICANN Board decided that the community form a working group to address a support program to help applicants who need assistance for applying for and operating a new gTLD. This WG (Joint Applicant Support « JAS ») designed the whole Applicant Support Program ‘ASP) including the tough criteria we spoke about in the statement. I was member of this WG.The WG put such criteria because some members were always warning us that the ASP will be gamed by those who are not in need of assistance who may have access to support if the criteria are flexible. I hope I answered you questions. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le 27 sept. 2018 à 14:00, khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com> a écrit : Dear Tijani, Thanks to you and Nadira and to all who contributed  bring this document out.  however I have some questions :  what do you mean by this statement  :  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria." - who is the committee that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who is us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria. - Should it be mention in this document if so, I think we need to clarity it ? I am Confused! I hope you can clarify for me... Thank very much Best Regards Hanan Khatib IT Consultant    On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 11:15:32 AM GMT+3, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you Zakir,In the following link you can find the statement and  all are welcome to comment either on this thread or in the document itself. If you are providing comments in the Google Doc, please start it with your name.  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hz_brkSh8YdQmlXJkFbgtYYxZ4QkjMurwslwyu7h... Best,Nadira On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:59 AM 'Zakir Syed' via MEAC SWG <icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com> wrote: Thank you Tijani, Do we have a google doc version? Actually it would be easy to comment and provide feedback there and thn to organize. Best, Zakir On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 3:54:26 PM GMT+5, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Dear all, Please find attached the first draft of the ME Statement for ICANN 63 that was developed by Nadira and myself.Please provide your comments before 3 October 2018 at 23:59 UTC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to icann-meac-swg+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/icann-meac-swg/B3550275-5A24-42E4-8048-CE1.... 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We have also the Geographic names.Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address. Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.This the timeline:04 - 10 September: Call for topics11 September:        Announcement of the selected Topic11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members16 September:        Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement26 September         1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period03 October:             Closing of the comment period04 - 08 October:      Drafting of the final version09 October:             Final draft published    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114-----------------------------------------------------------------------------    -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. 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Dear Tijani,  That is perfect,   Thank you very much for considering my suggestion,  wish all luck, Hanan KhatibIT ConsultantBusiness process consultant   On Sunday, September 30, 2018, 9:14:30 PM GMT+3, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Hanan, Ok, after some minor modification, I propose the following: Weare aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant.  Wealso understand that it failed because of the too tough eligibility criteriadeveloped by the Joint Applicant Support (JAS) working group under the pressureof those who always frighten JAS members that the program will be gamed (byapplicants who are not in need of assistance) if the criteria is too flexible. Wat do you think? -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le 27 sept. 2018 à 18:30, khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com> a écrit : Many thanks Tjani,  then can we change the paragraph to be ?  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community through its working group -the Joint Applicant Support (JAS)- were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten them us that the program will be gamed by applicants who are not in need of assistance if the JAS we put flexible criteria." Hanan Khatib  IT consultant  On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:39 PM khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com> wrote: should be  >?  Dear Tijani, Thanks to you and Nadira and all who worked on this draft,   however I have a questions :  what do you mean by this statement  :  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria." - what community that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria, - should mention it here ? I am Confused! I hope you can clarify for me... Thank very much Hanan Khatib Mob      : + 962 799032012  --    Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 7:39 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Thank you Hanan for your questions. - who is the committee that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who is us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria. - Should it be mention in this document if so, I think we need to clarity it? For the 2012 round, a large part of the community were continuously complaining about the amount of the application fees ($185 000), and argued that the new gTLD program won’t be accessible to underserved regions and disadvantaged communities. After several months of loud complaint, the ICANN Board decided that the community form a working group to address a support program to help applicants who need assistance for applying for and operating a new gTLD. This WG (Joint Applicant Support « JAS ») designed the whole Applicant Support Program ‘ASP) including the tough criteria we spoke about in the statement. I was member of this WG.The WG put such criteria because some members were always warning us that the ASP will be gamed by those who are not in need of assistance who may have access to support if the criteria are flexible. I hope I answered you questions. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le 27 sept. 2018 à 14:00, khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com> a écrit : Dear Tijani, Thanks to you and Nadira and to all who contributed  bring this document out.  however I have some questions :  what do you mean by this statement  :  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria." - who is the committee that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who is us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria. - Should it be mention in this document if so, I think we need to clarity it ? I am Confused! I hope you can clarify for me... Thank very much Best Regards Hanan Khatib IT Consultant    On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 11:15:32 AM GMT+3, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you Zakir,In the following link you can find the statement and  all are welcome to comment either on this thread or in the document itself. If you are providing comments in the Google Doc, please start it with your name.  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hz_brkSh8YdQmlXJkFbgtYYxZ4QkjMurwslwyu7h... Best,Nadira On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:59 AM 'Zakir Syed' via MEAC SWG <icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com> wrote: Thank you Tijani, Do we have a google doc version? Actually it would be easy to comment and provide feedback there and thn to organize. Best, Zakir On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 3:54:26 PM GMT+5, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Dear all, Please find attached the first draft of the ME Statement for ICANN 63 that was developed by Nadira and myself.Please provide your comments before 3 October 2018 at 23:59 UTC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to icann-meac-swg+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/icann-meac-swg/B3550275-5A24-42E4-8048-CE1.... 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We have also the Geographic names.Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address. 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Thank you Rafik for your comments. The ASP failed because of several things such as Lack of outreach and awareness raising in the concerned regions, the risk to be excluded from the whole application process if the applicant fails to meet the ASP criteria, and also because of the tough criteria. Among the 3 applicants for support, 2 of them were dropped because they didn’t meet the eligibility criteria. Flexible criteria doesn’t mean easy ones. They must be reasonable and affordable for applicants. Too tough criteria leads to the program failure as well as too easy ones. You are right that the text wasn’t accurate as it says that the reason of the failure was the criteria. I modified it in this way: We also understand that one of the reasons of the failure was the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the Joint Applicant Support (JAS) working group under the pressure of those who continuously argue that the ASP will be gamed by applicants not in need of support if the criteria are more flexible Does this make sens? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tijani BEN JEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Phone: +216 98 330 114 +216 52 385 114 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Le 3 oct. 2018 à 05:20, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> a écrit :

Hi,

Thanks for the work on the draft. As input, I am not comfortable with the statement related to the condition and eligibility criteria for applicant support program. Yes the WG discussed the risk of gaming and thought about safeguard and accountability.

The JAS WG acknowledged that having applicant support, focusing on the fees is not enough and that is why there was a discussion about other forms of support (several organizations offered to provide in-kind support that remained unfortunately unused). One issue is that the new gTLD program is by design complex and complicated putting too many barriers for prospective applicants. Easing the conditions for support won’t help as they still have to respond to (new?) AGB conditions. What is proposed as recommendations in the draft looks fine for me and a good start to think how support should cover the whole process or lifecycle of new. gTLD application but also responsibilize the applicants and making them autonomous too (not creating dependency) and make their gTLDs economically sustainable.

I would like this part being dropped: “We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria”.

Finally, I think that without proper outreach and having implementation earlier undermined the program and didn't really give it any serious chance to succeed. I hope we can leverage the DNS forum to build more awareness when the time comes for new rounds but more work needs to be done.

Best,

Rafik

Le lun. 1 oct. 2018 à 03:14, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> a écrit : Hanan,

Ok, after some minor modification, I propose the following: We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant.

We also understand that it failed because of the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the Joint Applicant Support (JAS) working group under the pressure of those who always frighten JAS members that the program will be gamed (by applicants who are not in need of assistance) if the criteria is too flexible.

Wat do you think?

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Le 27 sept. 2018 à 18:30, khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com <mailto:hkhatib2000@yahoo.com>> a écrit :

Many thanks Tjani, then can we change the paragraph to be ?

"We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community through its working group -the Joint Applicant Support (JAS)- were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten them us that the program will be gamed by applicants who are not in need of assistance if the JAS we put flexible criteria."

Hanan Khatib IT consultant

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:39 PM khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com <mailto:hkhatib2000@yahoo.com>> wrote: should be >?

Dear Tijani,

Thanks to you and Nadira and all who worked on this draft, however I have a questions : what do you mean by this statement :

"We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria."

what community that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? who us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria, should mention it here ?

I am Confused! I hope you can clarify for me...

Thank very much

Hanan Khatib

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On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 7:39 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> wrote:

Thank you Hanan for your questions. who is the committee that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? who is us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria. Should it be mention in this document if so, I think we need to clarity it? For the 2012 round, a large part of the community were continuously complaining about the amount of the application fees ($185 000), and argued that the new gTLD program won’t be accessible to underserved regions and disadvantaged communities. After several months of loud complaint, the ICANN Board decided that the community form a working group to address a support program to help applicants who need assistance for applying for and operating a new gTLD. This WG (Joint Applicant Support « JAS ») designed the whole Applicant Support Program ‘ASP) including the tough criteria we spoke about in the statement. I was member of this WG. The WG put such criteria because some members were always warning us that the ASP will be gamed by those who are not in need of assistance who may have access to support if the criteria are flexible.

I hope I answered you questions.

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Le 27 sept. 2018 à 14:00, khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com <mailto:hkhatib2000@yahoo.com>> a écrit :

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Dear Tijani,

Thanks to you and Nadira and to all who contributed bring this document out. however I have some questions : what do you mean by this statement :

"We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria."

who is the committee that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? who is us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria. Should it be mention in this document if so, I think we need to clarity it ?

I am Confused! I hope you can clarify for me...

Thank very much

Best Regards

Hanan Khatib

IT Consultant

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 11:15:32 AM GMT+3, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com <mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thank you Zakir, In the following link you can find the statement and all are welcome to comment either on this thread or in the document itself. If you are providing comments in the Google Doc, please start it with your name.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hz_brkSh8YdQmlXJkFbgtYYxZ4QkjMurwslwyu7h... <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hz_brkSh8YdQmlXJkFbgtYYxZ4QkjMurwslwyu7h...> Best, Nadira

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:59 AM 'Zakir Syed' via MEAC SWG <icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com <mailto:icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Thank you Tijani,

Do we have a google doc version? Actually it would be easy to comment and provide feedback there and thn to organize.

Best,

Zakir

On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 3:54:26 PM GMT+5, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> wrote:

Dear all,

Please find attached the first draft of the ME Statement for ICANN 63 that was developed by Nadira and myself. Please provide your comments before 3 October 2018 at 23:59 UTC

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Le 4 sept. 2018 à 19:54, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> a écrit :

Dear all, As we did for ICANN 60 and ICANN 61, we are planning to organize a ME Space at ICANN 63. Can you please provide your preferred topic to be addressed by the ME Space in Barcelona? I think we have several choices since we are now commenting on the preliminary report of the new gTLD subsequent procedures PDP working group (open round or consecutive rounds, Universal acceptance, Application fees, Applicant support, Community applications, etc…). We have also the Geographic names. Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address.

Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC. This the timeline: 04 - 10 September: Call for topics 11 September: Announcement of the selected Topic 11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members 16 September: Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement 26 September 1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period 03 October: Closing of the comment period 04 - 08 October: Drafting of the final version 09 October: Final draft published

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Dear Nadira, Tijani and all, I made a lot of edits to the google document (but i did not change the intended meaning), and put a couple of comments I also suggest the following wording for the two paragraphs that raised concerns among some of the group "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and resulted in no applicants being supported. We also understand that one of the reasons of the failure was the tough eligibility criteria developed by the Joint Applicant Support (JAS) working group under the preconception that  a more flexible eligibility criteria will lead to the ASP being gamed by applicants not in need of support." Thank you for developing this statement and waiting for your comments Hadia On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 7:30:31 PM GMT+2, 'khatib hanan' via MEAC SWG <icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com> wrote: Many thanks Tjani,  then can we change the paragraph to be ?  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community through its working group -the Joint Applicant Support (JAS)- were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten them us that the program will be gamed by applicants who are not in need of assistance if the JAS we put flexible criteria." Hanan Khatib  IT consultant  On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:39 PM khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com> wrote: should be  >?  Dear Tijani, Thanks to you and Nadira and all who worked on this draft,   however I have a questions :  what do you mean by this statement  :  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria." - what community that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria, - should mention it here ? I am Confused! I hope you can clarify for me... Thank very much Hanan Khatib Mob      : + 962 799032012  --    Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 7:39 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Thank you Hanan for your questions. - who is the committee that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who is us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria. - Should it be mention in this document if so, I think we need to clarity it? For the 2012 round, a large part of the community were continuously complaining about the amount of the application fees ($185 000), and argued that the new gTLD program won’t be accessible to underserved regions and disadvantaged communities. After several months of loud complaint, the ICANN Board decided that the community form a working group to address a support program to help applicants who need assistance for applying for and operating a new gTLD. This WG (Joint Applicant Support « JAS ») designed the whole Applicant Support Program ‘ASP) including the tough criteria we spoke about in the statement. I was member of this WG.The WG put such criteria because some members were always warning us that the ASP will be gamed by those who are not in need of assistance who may have access to support if the criteria are flexible. I hope I answered you questions. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le 27 sept. 2018 à 14:00, khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com> a écrit : Dear Tijani, Thanks to you and Nadira and to all who contributed  bring this document out.  however I have some questions :  what do you mean by this statement  :  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria." - who is the committee that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who is us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria. - Should it be mention in this document if so, I think we need to clarity it ? I am Confused! I hope you can clarify for me... Thank very much Best Regards Hanan Khatib IT Consultant    On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 11:15:32 AM GMT+3, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you Zakir,In the following link you can find the statement and  all are welcome to comment either on this thread or in the document itself. If you are providing comments in the Google Doc, please start it with your name.  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hz_brkSh8YdQmlXJkFbgtYYxZ4QkjMurwslwyu7h... Best,Nadira On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:59 AM 'Zakir Syed' via MEAC SWG <icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com> wrote: Thank you Tijani, Do we have a google doc version? Actually it would be easy to comment and provide feedback there and thn to organize. Best, Zakir On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 3:54:26 PM GMT+5, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Dear all, Please find attached the first draft of the ME Statement for ICANN 63 that was developed by Nadira and myself.Please provide your comments before 3 October 2018 at 23:59 UTC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to icann-meac-swg+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/icann-meac-swg/B3550275-5A24-42E4-8048-CE1.... 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We have also the Geographic names.Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address. Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.This the timeline:04 - 10 September: Call for topics11 September:        Announcement of the selected Topic11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members16 September:        Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement26 September         1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period03 October:             Closing of the comment period04 - 08 October:      Drafting of the final version09 October:             Final draft published    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114-----------------------------------------------------------------------------    -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. 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Dear Nadira, you mention "Regarding the use of 'efficiency' that I tried to use earlier, Tijani did explain that it wasn't about the efficiency but about the tightness of requirements." I was not the one that added the word efficient (you can see my edits in green), it was there from before. I put "resulted in no applicants being supported" instead of "didn’t permit to support any applicant." "Also on the use of "preconceptions" because it wasn't the case, it was a matter of an enflunce on the JAS set criteria." you mention in the original statement "pressure of those who continuously argue that  a more flexible eligibility criteria will lead that the ASP will be gamed by applicants not in need of support" that means that there was a predetermined idea that the ASP could be captured, that is "preconception" was the case, whether this was through pressure or consensus, does it really matter? I would also suggest proposing examples of a less tighter criteria as we argue that the tough selection criteria was one of the reasons of the failure of the program in the first round, what do you think? finally I would like to thank you, Tijani, Zakir and all the others for making this statement possible. kindest RegardsHadia On Thursday, October 4, 2018, 4:24:42 AM GMT+2, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you Hadia for alll your edits and comments that we will work on responding, accepte or decline the edits. Regarding the use of 'efficiency' that I tried to use earlier, Tijani did explain that it wasn't about the efficiency but about the tightness of requirements. Also on the use of "preconceptions" because it wasn't the case, it was a matter of an enflunce on the JAS set criteria. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 02:04 Hadia El Miniawi <hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com> wrote: Dear Nadira, Tijani and all, I made a lot of edits to the google document (but i did not change the intended meaning), and put a couple of comments I also suggest the following wording for the two paragraphs that raised concerns among some of the group "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and resulted in no applicants being supported. We also understand that one of the reasons of the failure was the tough eligibility criteria developed by the Joint Applicant Support (JAS) working group under the preconception that  a more flexible eligibility criteria will lead to the ASP being gamed by applicants not in need of support." Thank you for developing this statement and waiting for your comments Hadia On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 7:30:31 PM GMT+2, 'khatib hanan' via MEAC SWG <icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com> wrote: Many thanks Tjani,  then can we change the paragraph to be ?  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community through its working group -the Joint Applicant Support (JAS)- were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten them us that the program will be gamed by applicants who are not in need of assistance if the JAS we put flexible criteria." Hanan Khatib  IT consultant  On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:39 PM khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com> wrote: should be  >?  Dear Tijani, Thanks to you and Nadira and all who worked on this draft,   however I have a questions :  what do you mean by this statement  :  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria." - what community that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria, - should mention it here ? I am Confused! I hope you can clarify for me... Thank very much Hanan Khatib Mob      : + 962 799032012  --    Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 7:39 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Thank you Hanan for your questions. - who is the committee that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who is us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria. - Should it be mention in this document if so, I think we need to clarity it? For the 2012 round, a large part of the community were continuously complaining about the amount of the application fees ($185 000), and argued that the new gTLD program won’t be accessible to underserved regions and disadvantaged communities. After several months of loud complaint, the ICANN Board decided that the community form a working group to address a support program to help applicants who need assistance for applying for and operating a new gTLD. This WG (Joint Applicant Support « JAS ») designed the whole Applicant Support Program ‘ASP) including the tough criteria we spoke about in the statement. I was member of this WG.The WG put such criteria because some members were always warning us that the ASP will be gamed by those who are not in need of assistance who may have access to support if the criteria are flexible. I hope I answered you questions. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le 27 sept. 2018 à 14:00, khatib hanan <hkhatib2000@yahoo.com> a écrit : Dear Tijani, Thanks to you and Nadira and to all who contributed  bring this document out.  however I have some questions :  what do you mean by this statement  :  "We are aware of the failure of the Applicant Support Program (ASP) for the 2012 round that wasn’t efficient and didn’t permit to support any applicant. We also understand that it failed because the too tough eligibility criteria developed by the community were too tough under the pressure of those who always frighten us that the program will be gamed if we put flexible criteria." - who is the committee that put the tough eligibility criteria? and why? - who is us and who frighten us (you) ? why the program will be gamed? and who will put the criteria. - Should it be mention in this document if so, I think we need to clarity it ? I am Confused! I hope you can clarify for me... Thank very much Best Regards Hanan Khatib IT Consultant    On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 11:15:32 AM GMT+3, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you Zakir,In the following link you can find the statement and  all are welcome to comment either on this thread or in the document itself. If you are providing comments in the Google Doc, please start it with your name.  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hz_brkSh8YdQmlXJkFbgtYYxZ4QkjMurwslwyu7h... Best,Nadira On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:59 AM 'Zakir Syed' via MEAC SWG <icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com> wrote: Thank you Tijani, Do we have a google doc version? Actually it would be easy to comment and provide feedback there and thn to organize. Best, Zakir On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 3:54:26 PM GMT+5, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Dear all, Please find attached the first draft of the ME Statement for ICANN 63 that was developed by Nadira and myself.Please provide your comments before 3 October 2018 at 23:59 UTC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to icann-meac-swg+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to icann-meac-swg@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/icann-meac-swg/B3550275-5A24-42E4-8048-CE1.... 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We have also the Geographic names.Also, we have the EPDP working now and we may decide to provide our opinion as a region on several parts to the EPDP (data collection, processing, transfer, retention, and access to non public data). So we have a very large range of topics that we can choose to address. Please give your preference by Monday 10 September 23:59 UTC.This the timeline:04 - 10 September: Call for topics11 September:        Announcement of the selected Topic11 - 15 September: Call for drafting team members16 September:        Announcement of the drafting team and starting of drafting the statement26 September         1st draft of the statement published & Opening of the comment period03 October:             Closing of the comment period04 - 08 October:      Drafting of the final version09 October:             Final draft published    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Tijani BEN JEMAAExecutive DirectorMediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)Phone: +216 98 330 114            +216 52 385 114-----------------------------------------------------------------------------    -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MEAC SWG" group. 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